Is the US war against Nord Stream worth throwing Ukraine under the bus ?

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Future of Nord Stream 2 looms amid escalating Ukraine tension
Updated 22:57, 18-Jan-2022

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Germany is ready to discuss halting the Nord Stream 2 pipeline should Russia attack Ukraine, Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on Tuesday, responding to increasing domestic and international pressure amid a Russian military build-up on Ukraine's borders.

Lavrov said on Tuesday that Russia would welcome U.S. participation in diplomatic efforts to end the conflict in eastern Ukraine.

On Monday, the Russian foreign ministry said that it opposed the politicization of Nord Stream 2, which constitutes a significant contribution to ensuring the energy security of the entire European Union.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-01-...lating-Ukraine-tension-16VHPTbfA7C/index.html


US Senate votes against Nord Stream 2 sanctions
Republican proposal to pre-emptively punish Russia ran into opposition

Democrats in the US Senate have blocked the Republican proposal for sanctions against Russia over the Nord Stream 2 project, saying it didn’t help Ukraine and denied President Joe Biden “leverage” to deal with the Kremlin.

Proposed by Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Senate bill 3436 would have given the White House two weeks to impose travel restrictions, asset freezes, and bans on doing business with US companies for those involved with the natural gas pipeline that runs from Russia to Germany.

Democrats countered that the sanctions would do nothing to stop the Russian “invasion” of Ukraine, which US intelligence and the Biden administration have claimed for weeks to be imminent. Moscow has rejected the claim as “fake news.”

https://www.rt.com/russia/545976-senate-nordstream-sanctions-vote/


Joe Biden continues the US war on Nord Stream 2

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Any doubts as to whether Joe Biden will continue Donald Trump’s opposition to Nord Stream 2 should now be laid to rest. With 18 companies quitting the gas pipeline project this week following threats of US sanctions, there has never been so much pressure on Angela Merkel to ditch the scheme, which would see Russian gas transported to Germany direct.

https://insiderpaper.com/joe-biden-continues-the-us-war-on-nord-stream-2/
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The worst possible outcome for NATO's aggressive shenanigans is that Ukraine does fall peaceably to Russia anyway and the Germans do not close down Nord Stream.
That would likely be the end of US European influence and the breakup of NATO.

That, to my mind, would be a very good outcome for the future of the planet- but NATO's corporate paymasters are unlikely to allow any such peaceful settlement.


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Who would introduce such an insane concept ?

Ted Cruz received more money from oil and gas companies in 2018 than any other senator
The senator received nearly $800,000 from the industry in 2018

Over the course of his career, Mr Cruz has received a total of $3,770,950 from oil and gas interests.

Mr Cruz is one of numerous Texan politicians to receive massive amounts of money to represent the oil and gas industry in Congress.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott has raked in an enormous $150m in oil and gas donations over the past six years, more than any other US governor.

Between Sen. John Cornyn, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and Mr Cruz, the three have collectively received more than $1m in industry donations.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ted-cruz-oil-gas-money-b1804908.html
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What have Nord Stream 2 and gas got to do with the Ukraine standoff?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...eam-2-and-gas-got-to-do-with-ukraine-standoff
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The EU is a democracy. It requires unanimity in order to introduce sanctions against Russia - which would include America's aim of closing the Nord Stream pipeline which will bring Europe and Russia closer together. Several EU countries are dependent on Russian fuel supplies and will not back sanctions- so EU sanctions are a non-starter in democratic terms. This leaves a war option as the US means of spiking Nord Stream- but the very annoying Russians are refusing to start one. So what's the US option ? Yes, that's it.

So, is Nord Stream worth throwing Ukraine under the bus ? I think that Washington has decided that it is. So how to start it ?


https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-whoopi-goldberg-was-right-jews-aren-t-a-race-1.10598041
 
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Biden threatens to shut down Nord Stream 2 pipeline
US President Joe Biden said an invasion of Ukraine by Russia would put an end to the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project

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US President Joe Biden has threatened to shut down Nord Stream 2, a crucial Germany-Russia pipeline, if Russian troops cross the border into Ukraine. Biden made the threat as he was speaking alongside German Chancellor Olaf Scholz at a joint press conference in the White House on Monday.

“We will bring an end to it,” Biden said of the pipeline. When grilled by a journalist on how exactly Washington would be able to block the project since it was “within Germany’s control,” Biden refused to elaborate, saying only: “We will, I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.”

https://www.rt.com/news/548599-biden-russia-ukraine-americans/
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Ah- the objective becomes apparent.

Yanqui- go home.
 
Russia and Ukraine are historically linked. There should be NO NEED for Russia to INVADE and forcibly annex Ukraine. That would be counter-productive and just drive a wedge between Russia and the Ukrainian people. The US/NATO owe Ukraine nothing.

The US/NATO do have a STANDING COMMITMENT to protect 'Western Democracies' from Authoritarian Governments, like Russia. A one man Dictatorship.

So, Ukraine is not 'being thrown under the bus', it's more like Putin 'shooting himself in the foot'.
1. Giving reason to put NATO on the Doorstep of Russia. (Fear of Invasion)
2. Russia becoming stuck in a Quagmire in Ukraine. (Draining the Russian National Economy ... for what?)




moon said:
Some of this content is not drawn from American sources and therefore may not be true.





The worst possible outcome for NATO's aggressive shenanigans is that Ukraine does fall peaceably to Russia anyway and the Germans do not close down Nord Stream.
That would likely be the end of US European influence and the breakup of NATO.

That, to my mind, would be a very good outcome for the future of the planet- but NATO's corporate paymasters are unlikely to allow any such peaceful settlement.


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moon said:
Some of this content is not drawn from American sources and therefore may not be true.





The worst possible outcome for NATO's aggressive shenanigans is that Ukraine does fall peaceably to Russia anyway and the Germans do not close down Nord Stream.
That would likely be the end of US European influence and the breakup of NATO.

That, to my mind, would be a very good outcome for the future of the planet- but NATO's corporate paymasters are unlikely to allow any such peaceful settlement.


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^^^ Pro-Putin cocksucker at work. ^^^

I won't even bother trying to correct all of Moon's lies. It's enough that she's blaming NATO for Putin's aggression in Ukraine.

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Jack said:
Russia and Ukraine are historically linked. There should be NO NEED for Russia to INVADE and forcibly annex Ukraine. That would be counter-productive and just drive a wedge between Russia and the Ukrainian people. The US/NATO owe Ukraine nothing.

The US/NATO do have a STANDING COMMITMENT to protect 'Western Democracies' from Authoritarian Governments, like Russia. A one man Dictatorship.

So, Ukraine is not 'being thrown under the bus', it's more like Putin 'shooting himself in the foot'.
1. Giving reason to put NATO on the Doorstep of Russia. (Fear of Invasion)
2. Russia becoming stuck in a Quagmire in Ukraine. (Draining the Russian National Economy ... for what?)
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thats not to shabby an analysis..very good
 
Jack said:
Russia and Ukraine are historically linked. There should be NO NEED for Russia to INVADE and forcibly annex Ukraine. That would be counter-productive and just drive a wedge between Russia and the Ukrainian people. The US/NATO owe Ukraine nothing.
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Ukraine already returned a pro-Russian president. He was ousted by a coup.
 
moon said:
Apart from the externally-managed civil war, you mean.
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I have no problem with Ukraine deciding it's own future.
Too bad the Middle East is filled with Religious Quacks that need some Dictator to solve their problems.
 
Jack said:
I have no problem with Ukraine deciding it's own future.
Too bad the Middle East is filled with Religious Quacks that need some Dictator to solve their problems.
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As opposed to the established religious quacks in Washington, you mean ? And the growing numbers of US civil-warmongers ?

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moon said:
NATO stooge.
Yanqui- go home.
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Ah, don't we all miss McMoonshi'ite? This is another one I got right not that anybody will admit to being wrong.

Ukraine DID blow up $20BILLION Nord Stream pipeline

Veteran special forces officer coordinated attack to sabotage Russia's stranglehold on Europe's gas supply, report claims

On Saturday, The Washington Post reported that Roman Chervinsky, a colonel in Ukraine's special operations forces, was behind it - but Zelensky did not know


https://mol.im/a/12739437
 
serendipity said:
Ah, don't we all miss McMoonshi'ite?

Ukraine DID blow up $20BILLION Nord Stream pipeline: Veteran special forces officer coordinated attack to sabotage Russia's stranglehold on Europe's gas supply, report claims
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Moon is no longer here I gather.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Moon is no longer here I gather.
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He's here all right but has learnt to shut his enormous gob. After all just about everything he predicted has gone down the crapper. I predicted a while back that Ukraine did it and so it's transpired. What do you have to say about that?
 
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