TRUMP: “I will also make it a personal mission to completely eradicate...”

[AProudLefty]

So that is regulating capitalism? You're truly dumber than a box of rocks.

Your turn to answer.

 

[QP!]

But see, in RB and Toxic's forced-farm-labor-for-young-Americans scheme, they would receive the same pittance that migrant workers get, which is generally far under minimum wage. Therefore the only economic change would be native-born kids doing the grunt work in fields, meat packing plants, landscaping, hospitality, construction, etc.

I have noticed that they failed to address the resulting shortage of young ppl working at fast food joints and other typical teenage minimum wage jobs. Who would fill those jobs?! I know! I know! We'll put the old retired slackers back to work flipping burgers! They shouldn't be sitting on their wrinkled bottoms collecting government money anyways, right? We could go even further and repeal social security. *That* would force them out of their recliners and back to the fields.

It is the typical out of touch old man screaming at clouds gripe that each generation billows about the ones that follow.

The young people SHOULD just do it, as we did and it was good for us and built character.


And i am not even arguing it would not be good for society over all but you are not going to get kids into a tour of mandatory military service, nor doing the types of menial labor, that older generations did, even if we believed they would benefit from it.

And that is why i say, raising wages substantially would be the only way to draw people to those jobs. And then what that does, is draw out the labor from fast food and other jobs, forcing them to raise wages to keep their people. And that continues up the pay scale for most unskilled jobs. Which is a trigger for significant inflation.

But people like RB or Toxic do not think things thru, if they think at all. It seems they just emote about how they think things should be with zero connection to whether it could work or not.

 

[AProudLefty]

Fascism is not capitalism. These laws are not capitalism.

Cuckoo.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

So that is regulating capitalism? You're truly dumber than a box of rocks.

it is a regulation of capitalism.

so are safety laws, tariffs ...etc.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I don't think

No shit, Sybil. I'm glad you finally realize that fact. Now lets work on your multiple personality problem.

Sybil isn't here.

Sybil isn't here.

Is Sybil transgender?

 

[Lionfish]

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Notice how the Republicans are tacitly supporting the case against Traitor Don.

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...tors-trump-planned-to-stay-in-power-abc-news/
Ellis told Georgia prosecutors Trump planned ‘to stay in power’

Former Trump campaign attorney Jenna Ellis told Georgia prosecutors that then-President Trump did not plan to leave the White House “under any circumstances” after losing the 2020 election, according to video obtained and published by ABC News.

The video shows part of an interview Ellis conducted with prosecutors in Georgia investigating Trump’s efforts to overturn the state’s election results in 2020. Ellis last month reached a plea agreement in the case.

In the video, Ellis describes a conversation she had with former senior Trump White House official Dan Scavino around Dec. 19, 2020. She tells prosecutors she “emphasized to him I thought the claims and the ability to challenge the election results was essentially over,” and Scavino responded that Trump and his team didn’t care.

“He said, ‘The boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. We are just going to stay in power,'” Ellis said. “And I said to him, ‘Well, it doesn’t quite work that way, you realize.’ And he said, ‘We don’t care.'”

The video provides insight into the types of information Ellis and others who are cooperating with prosecutors may be providing into what was happening in Trump’s orbit following the 2020 election, when the former president constantly made false allegations that the results were fraudulent, even as his own campaign’s court challenges were rejected and debunked.....

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It appears only the Nazis, White Supremacists and Pedophiles are supporting Trump these days:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...remark-draws-comparisons-dictators-criticism/
Trump’s incendiary ‘vermin’ remarks prompt backlash
Former President Trump prompted backlash for comparing his political enemies to “vermin” who needed to be exposed, with critics drawing comparisons to dictators from decades ago.

Trump, in a Veterans Day speech in New Hampshire, pledged to “root out … the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country,” the latest in a growing line of increasingly incendiary comments about his political opponents heading into the 2024 election.

The former president warned the audience of supporters that “the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they’re not going to want to play with us.”...

...The Trump campaign dismissed the criticism. But the “vermin” comment is just the latest in a growing string of remarks that have raised alarms for Trump’s critics.

“On a weekend when most Americans were honoring our nation’s heroes, Donald Trump parroted the autocratic language of Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini — two dictators many U.S. veterans gave their lives fighting, in order to defeat exactly the kind of un-American ideas Trump now champions,” Biden campaign spokesperson Ammar Moussa said in a statement....

...Trump’s comments, which he also posted on Truth Social on Saturday, come as he’s leading the Republican presidential primary contest by an average of nearly 60 percentage points. A slew of recent polls have shown him leading President Biden in several key battleground states that will likely determine the outcome of the 2024 race.

The Trump campaign rejected comparisons between Trump and old dictators, with spokesperson Steven Cheung saying in a statement that “those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”

His denigration of his political rivals as “vermin” forced Republicans into the familiar, uncomfortable position of having to try and defend Trump, the front-runner to be on the party’s presidential ticket next year.

Republican National Committee (RNC) chair Ronna McDaniel was asked on multiple Sunday morning shows about the remarks, and she declined to condemn or directly address the former president’s language.

“I’m not going to talk about candidates that are in a contested primary. That’s — you can talk to him about what he’s saying,” McDaniel said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), one of the most outspoken Trump critics in the GOP, wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Trump was using “the same Nazi propaganda that mobilized 1930s-40s Germany to evil.” She added that history would judge “every Republican who is appeasing this dangerous man.”

 

[Phyllis Diller]

It appears only the Nazis, White Supremacists and Pedophiles are supporting Trump these days:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...remark-draws-comparisons-dictators-criticism/
Trump’s incendiary ‘vermin’ remarks prompt backlash
Former President Trump prompted backlash for comparing his political enemies to “vermin” who needed to be exposed, with critics drawing comparisons to dictators from decades ago.

Trump, in a Veterans Day speech in New Hampshire, pledged to “root out … the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country,” the latest in a growing line of increasingly incendiary comments about his political opponents heading into the 2024 election.

The former president warned the audience of supporters that “the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they’re not going to want to play with us.”...

...The Trump campaign dismissed the criticism. But the “vermin” comment is just the latest in a growing string of remarks that have raised alarms for Trump’s critics.

“On a weekend when most Americans were honoring our nation’s heroes, Donald Trump parroted the autocratic language of Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini — two dictators many U.S. veterans gave their lives fighting, in order to defeat exactly the kind of un-American ideas Trump now champions,” Biden campaign spokesperson Ammar Moussa said in a statement....

...Trump’s comments, which he also posted on Truth Social on Saturday, come as he’s leading the Republican presidential primary contest by an average of nearly 60 percentage points. A slew of recent polls have shown him leading President Biden in several key battleground states that will likely determine the outcome of the 2024 race.

The Trump campaign rejected comparisons between Trump and old dictators, with spokesperson Steven Cheung saying in a statement that “those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”

His denigration of his political rivals as “vermin” forced Republicans into the familiar, uncomfortable position of having to try and defend Trump, the front-runner to be on the party’s presidential ticket next year.

Republican National Committee (RNC) chair Ronna McDaniel was asked on multiple Sunday morning shows about the remarks, and she declined to condemn or directly address the former president’s language.

“I’m not going to talk about candidates that are in a contested primary. That’s — you can talk to him about what he’s saying,” McDaniel said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), one of the most outspoken Trump critics in the GOP, wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Trump was using “the same Nazi propaganda that mobilized 1930s-40s Germany to evil.” She added that history would judge “every Republican who is appeasing this dangerous man.”

get over your dumb idiot self.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

get over your dumb idiot self.

^^^
Voted most likely to become a Patsy 3 years in a row.

 

[Into the Night]

And now for some bigotry from Nordbutt:

Capitalism demands strong and steady regulation.

Capitalism does not demand anything except innovation and drive. Fascism is not capitalism.

We accept, for some reason, that the goal of corporations is to maximize profits.

No, you don't. You are lying again. Profit is the lifeblood of any business. You think profit is 'evil', like any socialist does.

It does not include a codicil about not doing harm to the people or the environment.

Harming people is bad business. Polluting is bad business. Any corporation that does this is headed for financial disaster. Corporations MUST satisfy their customers to stay in business. Harming them is not a good idea.

Corporations fought against safety in plants,

Harming workers is bad business. Businesses that do this often get sued or may even lose their business license (that includes corporations).

product safety,
product safety,

You apparently have trouble with your keyboard.

Putting out unsafe products is not a good business practice. Corporations, like any business, must satisfy their customers to stay in business. Harming them is not a good idea. That's why corporations go to extra lengths to make sure your products are safe.

environmental laws

Void argument fallacy. 'Environmental' laws do not help the environment or prevent any pollution.

and anything that may make lower profits.

Again, you reveal that you think profits are 'evil'.

The cruelty in corporate leaders against union organizing is well known.

What 'cruelty'? Void argument fallacy.

The incredible lobbying power of corporations and the wealthy keeps us on the edge of safety and environmental disasters.

*yawn* here comes that ole' Doom and Gloom from the Church of Green.

You have to understand that corporations see employees as a cost and management problem to be solved.

Ever employee is also capitalism. They cost money. They must be managed to aid the business. Any business without functioning management is headed for disaster. The first purpose of ANY business is to satisfy it's customers. If they don't, they won't have enough customers to stay in business!

Your humanity is not part of the management equation.

It certainly is!

When America was started, we chartered corporations. If they did harm they could lose the charter.

Just like any business today.

The power of corporations and the wealthy ended that.

Blatant lie.

They also got the court to say they have personhood.
How crazy is that?

Corporations are made up of people, dummy.

We fought countless wars and invasions to get resources for corporations.

None.

Iraq is an example.

Not an example. After the war in Iraq, the nation was given to it's people to form their own government, and the resources of Iraq belonged to them.

Gen. Smedley Butler wrote a book "War is a Racket" about how his armies were working for corporations.

A ButHurrt general.

Corporations are winning, or they have won.

Good. Businesses that profit are a good thing.

You are only at odds with corporations and business because you're a socialist.

 

[Into the Night]

But see, in RB and Toxic's forced-farm-labor-for-young-Americans scheme, they would receive the same pittance that migrant workers get, which is generally far under minimum wage. Therefore the only economic change would be native-born kids doing the grunt work in fields, meat packing plants, landscaping, hospitality, construction, etc.

I have noticed that they failed to address the resulting shortage of young ppl working at fast food joints and other typical teenage minimum wage jobs. Who would fill those jobs?! I know! I know! We'll put the old retired slackers back to work flipping burgers! They shouldn't be sitting on their wrinkled bottoms collecting government money anyways, right? We could go even further and repeal social security. *That* would force them out of their recliners and back to the fields.

What 'forced farm labor for young Americans'????

Your bigotry is obvious.

 

[Into the Night]

It is the typical out of touch old man screaming at clouds gripe that each generation billows about the ones that follow.

The young people SHOULD just do it, as we did and it was good for us and built character.


And i am not even arguing it would not be good for society over all but you are not going to get kids into a tour of mandatory military service, nor doing the types of menial labor, that older generations did, even if we believed they would benefit from it.

And that is why i say, raising wages substantially would be the only way to draw people to those jobs. And then what that does, is draw out the labor from fast food and other jobs, forcing them to raise wages to keep their people. And that continues up the pay scale for most unskilled jobs. Which is a trigger for significant inflation.

But people like RB or Toxic do not think things thru, if they think at all. It seems they just emote about how they think things should be with zero connection to whether it could work or not.

Fascism and communism doesn't work.
Minimum wage laws just put people out of work. Price controls never work.

 

[Into the Night]

Notice how the Republicans are tacitly supporting the case against Traitor Don.

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...tors-trump-planned-to-stay-in-power-abc-news/
Ellis told Georgia prosecutors Trump planned ‘to stay in power’

You misspelled 'Biden' again, Sock.

 

[RB 60]

Sure but that is not what we were talking about.

I started off with lawn cutting and other such odd jobs in my neighborhood as a teen and by University i ran my own little Window cleaning business i created, and hired other students.

I was smarter than you as i did not work for a contractor or franchise, and just created my own business.

But all that aside, that does not address the issue, of you wanting to force young people to take the jobs on farms and at resorts, that will suffer severe shortages. if we just cut out that existing current work force or illegals and migrants.

You seem to have not thought your position thru nor care to do so as what you would push to have happen would almost certainly result in a massive spike in inflation and the loss of certain industries and jobs across America. Something you would then likely blame on Dems.

You don't know what I've accomplished. I retired at 58. I work as a security guard during the summer at a campground for gas money for my car.

I've thought my position through. I stand by what I've said.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

It is the typical out of touch old man screaming at clouds gripe that each generation billows about the ones that follow.

The young people SHOULD just do it, as we did and it was good for us and built character.


And i am not even arguing it would not be good for society over all but you are not going to get kids into a tour of mandatory military service, nor doing the types of menial labor, that older generations did, even if we believed they would benefit from it.

And that is why i say, raising wages substantially would be the only way to draw people to those jobs. And then what that does, is draw out the labor from fast food and other jobs, forcing them to raise wages to keep their people. And that continues up the pay scale for most unskilled jobs. Which is a trigger for significant inflation.

But people like RB or Toxic do not think things thru, if they think at all. It seems they just emote about how they think things should be with zero connection to whether it could work or not.

You nailed it. RB has no kids, Toxic had one. They seem to believe that "if it was good enough for us, it's good enough for them." Of course when they were kids, we were part of the Baby Boom generation, and minimum wage was $1.65/hour. You were lucky to get a job in a fast food place. Most of us mowed yards or babysat. I'd bet you anything that neither RB nor Toxic worked on a farm, slopped hogs, lugged bales around, mucked out barns, plucked chickens, and the like. But they think today's kids, who seldom even go outside, should be doing that stuff. Hahahaha!

 

[NiftyNiblick]

You nailed it. RB has no kids, Toxic had one. They seem to believe that "if it was good enough for us, it's good enough for them." Of course when they were kids, we were part of the Baby Boom generation, and minimum wage was $1.65/hour. You were lucky to get a job in a fast food place. Most of us mowed yards or babysat. I'd bet you anything that neither RB nor Toxic worked on a farm, slopped hogs, lugged bales around, mucked out barns, plucked chickens, and the like. But they think today's kids, who seldom even go outside, should be doing that stuff. Hahahaha!

I've seen an awful lot of kids who were raised in strict fundy fashion.

I've seen two raised by the innovative Nifty/Gestapo method.

We never once would have considered a trade, thank you very much.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Notice how the Republicans are tacitly supporting the case against Traitor Don.

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...tors-trump-planned-to-stay-in-power-abc-news/
Ellis told Georgia prosecutors Trump planned ‘to stay in power’

Is this the leaked video that is the subject of a new gag order request? Is the purpose of leaking it to sic the Trumpanzees on that woman?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Is this the leaked video that is the subject of a new gag order request? Is the purpose of leaking it to sic the Trumpanzees on that woman?

Truth is never wrong. What people do with the truth is all on them.

I'm a RWer who believes in personal accountability. Trumpers believe they are not to be held responsible.
Please respect the difference between someone who leans right and a fucking scumbag asshole.

 

[RB 60]

But see, in RB and Toxic's forced-farm-labor-for-young-Americans scheme, they would receive the same pittance that migrant workers get, which is generally far under minimum wage. Therefore the only economic change would be native-born kids doing the grunt work in fields, meat packing plants, landscaping, hospitality, construction, etc.

I have noticed that they failed to address the resulting shortage of young ppl working at fast food joints and other typical teenage minimum wage jobs. Who would fill those jobs?! I know! I know! We'll put the old retired slackers back to work flipping burgers! They shouldn't be sitting on their wrinkled bottoms collecting government money anyways, right? We could go even further and repeal social security. *That* would force them out of their recliners and back to the fields.

Who said anything about forced labor? Since when do you know who does farm work?

Address the shortages? Kids today are lazy, that's a fact. Your bullshit falls on deaf ears, except for maybe a few assholes here.