ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Not hard to do since THIS thread includes both sides' comments and thus is much more interesting.
DOJ Finds Biden is too Mentally Impaired to be Charged - Open
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Not hard to do since THIS thread includes both sides' comments and thus is much more interesting.
QP!
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ThatOwlWoman
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What a fool you are. There is a specific process that has to be followed in order to declassify materials. It doesn't happen by thinking about it, touching the materials, or waving a magic wand over them.
Be careful what you wish for, or you might get this.
ExpressLane
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ExpressLane
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Oh really? Link us to the procedure that the President has to follow.What a fool you are. There is a specific process that has to be followed in order to declassify materials. It doesn't happen by thinking about it, touching the materials, or waving a magic wand over them.
Be careful what you wish for, or you might get this.
There is no specific procedure for the President to follow declassifying documents. The very act of the President claiming a document is a Presidential record means it is no longer classified. It has already been adjudicated in federal court and decided by a federal judge.
ThatOwlWoman
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One is a legal opinion based upon evidence (and lack thereof). The other is a personal opinion by a non-medical professional, based on a desire to besmirch the President whether for political or personal reasons. One would think that someone who has claimed to be a "doctor" and a "nurse" would understand this. One would be wrong.
BTW there are literally thousands of individuals residing in our nation's prisons right now who -- if prosecutors could actually use mental impairment to dodge a prosecution -- would be free men and women because they lack the ability to understand that what they did was unlawful.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Who (aside from slobbering right-wing idiots like the ones here at JPP) would be gullible, stupid and partisan enough to take such a statement, made by such an unqualified and highly partisan hack, seriously?
Not an normally intelligent adult who I can think of.
QP!
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Of course he should but your example IS NOT the same as this one.
You and i can both hold an opinion that if Top gov't officials take home classified doc's they should ALL be charged with no exceptions and no prosecutor discretion but that IS NOT, how things work in this area. Again, like it or not.
The reason Pence was not charged was he identified and found the material himself, when asked to do a search, and then he gave them all back while giving the authorities full access to search.
Biden was the exact same and also did not face charges.
Trump was charged with obstruction because when asked to give them back he lied over and over saying he had none. When then subpoena's to give them back, he lied to his lawyers and engaged in a game of hide and seek and kept the documents while letting his lawyers submit a perjurious claim, everything was sent back. Trump made it crystal clear that he was NEVER going to admit having them and give them back, FORCING the DoJ to get a warrant to search for them and take them.
There is a principle in law that says 'the cover is often worse than the crime', meaning many times a person does things in trying to hide an action that are more criminal than the initial action.
Bill Clinton is the perfect example of that. Had he simply said "yes Monica and i had an affair' Ken Starr would then have nothing on him. Because he tried to cover it up with lies, he ended up committing the crime of lying to an FBI interview.
Trumps crime is the cover up. Pence nor Biden did not do that. That is why they were not charged.
evince
Truthmatters
It must get tiring carrying all that water for Biden and parroting moronic MSNBC talking points.
18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term "classified information of the United States", means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
Yes, Biden KNOWINGLY removed the documents.
No, Biden did not obtain, or have, any authority to remove the documents.
ALL Biden's documents were kept in unauthorized and unsecure locations.
It's pretty cut and dried. But no, we cannot prosecute him because he is mentally incapable to be prosecuted but fine having access to our nuclear codes.
NOTHING can be more insane than the idiot talking points from the leftists progressives who hate this country and are determined to see it destroyed from within with the help of the media and the Democratic Party of Lying Jackasses.
evince
Truthmatters
He didn’t scream is ass drip
And Hur put that shit in his report because he had to protect his family from violent trumpers he knew would attack him and them
Why?
Because in this same report he outlined the crimes of Trump in his document case
TOP
Retired Teacher
Actually he should be commended... he was kind but firm... and that statement will probably save this country...
He wasn't exonerated you willful moron. Progressives are the dumbest most uneducated and dishonest dumbasses on the planet.
QP!
Verified User
this is just stupidity repeated as if fact, when it is not.
Yes Trump could declassify, if he followed a process and he did not.
IN the only 3 existing cases that provide any precedent, all taking place under Trumps administration. Trump declared certain documents were declassified. Once was in his 'official writings' on twitter. ANother was via his words on an new interview, and there was on more i cannot recall the specifics of right now, but i have cited it the past.
In all 3 cases the Media instantly seized on Trump's proclamations that the material was now declassified and they should get it under FOIA, and in all 3 cases Trump had his WH counsel and Mark Meadows fight them arguing 'that even if Trump said it was classified, or put it in his official writing (twitter), that UNLESS Trump ALSO completed the NECESSARY procedures to complete the declassification, then the Media had no right to them'.
The court IN ALL 3 CASES agreed and found that since Trump DID NOT complete the declassification process then the material remained classified and the media could not have it.
evince
Truthmatters
It must get tiring carrying all that water for Biden and parroting moronic MSNBC talking points.
18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term "classified information of the United States", means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
Yes, Biden KNOWINGLY removed the documents.
No, Biden did not obtain, or have, any authority to remove the documents.
ALL Biden's documents were kept in unauthorized and unsecure locations.
It's pretty cut and dried. But no, we cannot prosecute him because he is mentally incapable to be prosecuted but fine having access to our nuclear codes.
NOTHING can be more insane than the idiot talking points from the leftists progressives who hate this country and are determined to see it destroyed from within with the help of the media and the Democratic Party of Lying Jackasses.
Hur fully cleared Biden you fucking idiot
He said trump is a criminal too
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Oh really? Link us to the procedure that the President has to follow.
Gladly, Quackter, gladly. It's always a joy to debunk your lies and laugh at your stupidity. lol
From the American Bar Association:
*** Reports: Trump revealed two nuclear secrets about U.S. submarines to Australian billionaire
Let me know when your red, red ass is tired of being spanked hard. I've got cookies to bake.
Trump has a lot of people to sue over the Russian collusion lies
There was a crime dumbass.
18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term "classified information of the United States", means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
Wrong again dumbass.
Ex·on·er·ate
/iɡˈzänəˌrāt/
verb
1. absolve (someone) from blame for a fault or wrongdoing, especially after due consideration of the case
If you had a brain, the double standards being used by the DOJ should frighten you. But alas, you're an insufferable moron who parrots the stupidity you see on MSNBC.