Glenn Beck is a craptastic partisan hack

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SmarterthanYou

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and a total republican fuckwad.

He did such a setup and hackjob on non mainstream TX gov candidate Debra Medina so he could get Rick Perry elected.

He's nothing but a mainstream political machine fucktard.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
not hard to do when you're not a career politician trying to answer an unexpected question that has nothing to do with the office you're running for.
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Yeah, I am wondering why Beck asked the question. Outside of this I find only one reference to her and 9/11, a post planted by a Perry supporter pretending to be a Medina supporter on the Dallas Morning News.
 
how exactly is this glenn beck's fault?

you sound like sarah palin blaming dear ol' katie couric for her blunder of an interview :(
 
I liked what I saw from Debra Medina, but I think this is completely her fault.

She has shown real skill in these debates with her much more well-known opponents, and that's why I'm so very confused about how it didn't occur to her that saying "No, I am not a 9/11 Truther" is the only acceptable answer.

Now, if she felt that was dishonest and might blow up in her face later if it was revealed that she was, it really can't be helped. This is not a point of view mainstream voters are interested in or give any credit toward.

I understand from having worked a lot in grassroots programs that there are people who may have theories about 9/11 or all sorts of obscure subjects who are also good activists on important issues, but they are absolutely not more valuable than the votes of normal people that someone needs as a candidate to get elected.
 
cawacko said:
Sorry I missed it what was the question he asked?
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He said that he got a lot of negative emails for inviting her on his radio show, including the allegation that she is a 9/11 Truther.

She said something equivalent to "I don't have all the facts on that and I'm not in a position to say whether there was some kind of conspiracy".

As opposed to "No, I'm not a 9/11 truther. Let's talk about Texas state government."

She later did say some things like that when she basically admitted there are probably people in her campaign who are truthers but that they have concerns on some other very important issues and their talents are valued.

But for someone who has so far displayed such poise, I thought it was a total rookie type mistake. That's the kind of stuff paper candidates do, and not people who actually want to win and have a strategy to execute.

She had a shot of forcing a run-off in the primary and now it's going to be hard to do that.
 
Every truther I run into, I try to explain to them that they absolutely positively cannot help the cause of limited government by mixing it up with their conspiracy views.

I'm not saying there aren't otherwise intelligent and decent people who espouse these views, they just seemingly have no idea of the political reality of what they're trying to do.

They cannot educate the country about their views on that subject and also make it the basis (or even a peripheral detail) of a winning campaign for public office. You can't even educate people about policies half the country already takes seriously in most campaigns. It would be an understatement to call what they want an uphill battle. It's insanity.

It can only sink a campaign, and I remember distinctly during the Paul campaign and now even in libertarian youth organizations, campaign for liberty, and the Audit the Fed/End the Fed movement today how much people were/are struggling to keep the truthers from mixing their absolutely nuclear pet issue with their policy issue and candidate activism.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
and a total republican fuckwad.

He did such a setup and hackjob on non mainstream TX gov candidate Debra Medina so he could get Rick Perry elected.

He's nothing but a mainstream political machine fucktard.
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I'm not so sure about that. I've seen Beck diss Republicans just as much as Democrats.
 
Adam, do you have a blog someplace? Your views always seem well-thought out and cut thru the bullshit (as much as can be cut thru in a political forum).
 
Adam Weinberg said:
He said that he got a lot of negative emails for inviting her on his radio show, including the allegation that she is a 9/11 Truther.

She said something equivalent to "I don't have all the facts on that and I'm not in a position to say whether there was some kind of conspiracy".

As opposed to "No, I'm not a 9/11 truther. Let's talk about Texas state government."

She later did say some things like that when she basically admitted there are probably people in her campaign who are truthers but that they have concerns on some other very important issues and their talents are valued.

But for someone who has so far displayed such poise, I thought it was a total rookie type mistake. That's the kind of stuff paper candidates do, and not people who actually want to win and have a strategy to execute.

She had a shot of forcing a run-off in the primary and now it's going to be hard to do that.
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Interesting, thanks. I remember blackascoal used to argue on this site that the government was involved in 9/11 and especially WTC 7. I guess he would qualify as a 9/11 Truther? I saw a bumper stick on a car in Oakland yesterday that said WTC7 = WTF?
 
TuTu Monroe said:
I'm not so sure about that. I've seen Beck diss Republicans just as much as Democrats.
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No, you haven't. Because he doesn't - not even close.

He's like O'Reilly in that way (although Beck makes O'Reilly look like one of the fairest, most moderate commentators on TV). He'll bash Obama & Democrats for weeks straight, but then pick the most extreme Republican, or egregious GOP action, and talk about it for 5 minutes on one show out of dozens, in an effort to appear more balanced somehow.

But otherwise, it's a non-stop Obama/Democrat bash-fest.
 
Truthers are insane. Any politician that doesn't state that plainly is unqualified to run as a conservative, IMHO. Beck is voicing his views, and he has every right to do so. :good4u:
 
Adam Weinberg said:
Every truther I run into, I try to explain to them that they absolutely positively cannot help the cause of limited government by mixing it up with their conspiracy views.

I'm not saying there aren't otherwise intelligent and decent people who espouse these views, they just seemingly have no idea of the political reality of what they're trying to do.

They cannot educate the country about their views on that subject and also make it the basis (or even a peripheral detail) of a winning campaign for public office. You can't even educate people about policies half the country already takes seriously in most campaigns. It would be an understatement to call what they want an uphill battle. It's insanity.

It can only sink a campaign, and I remember distinctly during the Paul campaign and now even in libertarian youth organizations, campaign for liberty, and the Audit the Fed/End the Fed movement today how much people were/are struggling to keep the truthers from mixing their absolutely nuclear pet issue with their policy issue and candidate activism.
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Exactly, when actually running it is important to look at the reality of who it is you seek votes from.
 
Adam Weinberg said:
Every truther I run into, I try to explain to them that they absolutely positively cannot help the cause of limited government by mixing it up with their conspiracy views.

I'm not saying there aren't otherwise intelligent and decent people who espouse these views, they just seemingly have no idea of the political reality of what they're trying to do.

They cannot educate the country about their views on that subject and also make it the basis (or even a peripheral detail) of a winning campaign for public office. You can't even educate people about policies half the country already takes seriously in most campaigns. It would be an understatement to call what they want an uphill battle. It's insanity.

It can only sink a campaign, and I remember distinctly during the Paul campaign and now even in libertarian youth organizations, campaign for liberty, and the Audit the Fed/End the Fed movement today how much people were/are struggling to keep the truthers from mixing their absolutely nuclear pet issue with their policy issue and candidate activism.
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Your analysis is way off on this on Adam. People know 9/11 was an inside job, and as much as you try to dismiss and marginalize people who question your cheney bush zionist black ops false flaggers, it resonates well with those bright enough to see through your fog of neocon disinformation.
 
He predicted the world would end like two years ago. I would have thought he would have lost his creditability when that date passed... But the Cons still LOVE him, they LOVE fear!
 
AssHatZombie said:
Your analysis is way off on this on Adam. People know 9/11 was an inside job, and as much as you try to dismiss and marginalize people who question your cheney bush zionist black ops false flaggers, it resonates well with those bright enough to see through your fog of neocon disinformation.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm not trying to throw you under the bus for having a minority point of view here, but what person running for office in the United States of America, who publicly speaks like you do and takes positions on issues as you do, has ever been elected?

I've heard people running for office say stuff like you're saying now. We both know where they are. They think they're undermining some great conspiracy with their insightful rhetoric, but all they're doing is scaring the crap out of most normal people.

If you don't want your people to be elected, then that's fine. Anything goes. But it's kind of hard to protect the Constitution when you're never administered an oath by anyone but yourself.
 
Jarod said:
He predicted the world would end like two years ago. I would have thought he would have lost his creditability when that date passed... But the Cons still LOVE him, they LOVE fear!
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Give us a link... My bet is you have him out of context.
 
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