so much for not raiding med marijuana places

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lol....no comment as to why obama or holder haven't repudiated the statements

thanks for proving you're just a hack, and btw, this isn't the first time obama's dea have done this, it has happened a few times in cali and has been discussed on this board, so i am not calling him a liar for this once incident....it is well known obama hasn't kept his promise about this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nice try. Man, you only embarass yourself further when you're cold-busted. Your first response on this thread is "Obama lied."

And the admin has come out & said that the transition to the new policies would not be immediate, as they weeded out holdovers from the previous admin & implemented the new policy.

Very sad.....

 

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1) as of now we do not know

2) obama has not disavowed the statement. this guy is a representative the executive branch and so far not a single person has repudiated his statements, so until that happens, obama lied as this is his administration talking.

3) see 1

1) True... I do not know for sure... but again, a HOME a BLOCK from a SCHOOL is not likely to be getting a dispensary license.

2) again... if it is NOT a dispensary, then it is NOT a violation of what Holder stated

3) again... even if this was a dispensary, the raid was carried out at the discretion of the local head of the DEA. It was his call. Not Obama's. It is stupid to pretend that Obama is going to be able to control every decision every DEA head makes. Not going to happen.

 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nice try. Man, you only embarass yourself further when you're cold-busted. Your first response on this thread is "Obama lied."

And the admin has come out & said that the transition to the new policies would not be immediate, as they weeded out holdovers from the previous admin & implemented the new policy.

Very sad.....

that was a year ago you ignorant tard, since then there have been memos and obama already appointed a new dea or ONDCP leader....so once again, you're the one wrong on the facts....

this is simply more of obama saying one thing and doing another. your earlier explanation was that this is a "rogue" agent, now getting that idea soundly trashed by multiple posters including myself, you have a new theory that these people are still bush people....lmao, how desperate can you get? what next, its actually reagan's fault? if obama can't control his own administration a year into his term, he should resign immediately.....

 

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is the guy in violation of state law? did the dea bother to check that out first? did you see the links where the dea said it didn't matter as marijuana was still illegal and they were still going to prosecute it?

you're delusional, i refer to post 25....this is clearly not what obama said in the links i provided....i'll give you this too, i trust you'll read the link i provided and issue me an apology, obama lied, if this guy is rogue, why hasn't obama come out and fired the agent, repudiated the arrest?

oh yeah, because onceler is full of meadowmuffins as usual


Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14393797#ixzz0feH1q4Iz

Yes, it appears he is indeed in violation of the law (though to be clear... the law in CO is constantly changing and is not real clear).... but the general thought at this time is that a 'dispensary' is not to be making high levels of profit. The fact that this guy was bragging about making hundreds of thousands this year suggests he was not in it just for the betterment of the patients.

 

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1)

3) again... even if this was a dispensary, the raid was carried out at the discretion of the local head of the DEA. It was his call. Not Obama's. It is stupid to pretend that Obama is going to be able to control every decision every DEA head makes. Not going to happen.

Speaking as a former sufferer of BDS, I can say that I was always embarassed by fellow haters who would try to pick apart all kinds of more localized issues and things that were clearly outside of Bush's regular realm to criticize.

For me, Bush's main areas of failure were Iraq & other gross incompetence. I reserved my critiques for the big stuff...

 

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"this is simply more of obama saying one thing and doing another. "

Nah - the directives are in place. This is under local authority now.

If a fed agent violates that, he'll be dealt with accordingly. Not much more a Prez can do than that, and it certainly doesn't represent "saying one thing & doing another." He said he'd cede to local law, and he did.

You're being intellectually dishonest, which is no huge surprise...

 

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1) True... I do not know for sure... but again, a HOME a BLOCK from a SCHOOL is not likely to be getting a dispensary license.

2) again... if it is NOT a dispensary, then it is NOT a violation of what Holder stated

3) again... even if this was a dispensary, the raid was carried out at the discretion of the local head of the DEA. It was his call. Not Obama's. It is stupid to pretend that Obama is going to be able to control every decision every DEA head makes. Not going to happen.

great, then obama should resign. if he can't get his agents to obey him, then he is an inneffective leader. you didn't click on my links because if you did you would see that obama said he was leaving up to the states....

"The president believes that federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws" and expects his appointees to follow that policy, Schapiro said.

DEA to halt medical marijuana raids
Holder confirms states to have final say on use of drug for pain control

in this case, the raided the guy the next day....are you actually telling me that checked existing state law to make sure he was in compliance? you and i know they didn't, they went shooting first and ask questions later. at this time, no one even knows if he broke state law, that is what i am talking about, obama is not keeping his promise regarding this. and until you can link me to where obama repudiates what the dea said, i'm sticking by my comments.

 

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"great, then obama should resign. if he can't get his agents to obey him, then he is an inneffective leader"

That's ODS, CBO.

You're really deranged.

 

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Yes, it appears he is indeed in violation of the law (though to be clear... the law in CO is constantly changing and is not real clear).... but the general thought at this time is that a 'dispensary' is not to be making high levels of profit. The fact that this guy was bragging about making hundreds of thousands this year suggests he was not in it just for the betterment of the patients.

lol, so making a couple hundred thousand dollars means you don't care about patients? i guess the president doesn't care about us citizens as he makes 400 thousand dollars

 

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great, then obama should resign. if he can't get his agents to obey him, then he is an inneffective leader. you didn't click on my links because if you did you would see that obama said he was leaving up to the states....

So if a teacher fucks something up... are you going to blame Obama too?

This is simply absurd yurt. As for your links, I did click on them. The DEA still exists in CO and the DEA HERE IN COLORADO made this call. You are simply jerking off in the corner because you think this somehow means Obama 'lied'. This is the same stupidity we dealt with under Bush. Obama cannot control the actions of every single person working for the government. If someone that does work for the government DOES fuck up... then the proper response is for the admin to discipline that person. IF this DEA agent was wrong in what he did AND the administration does not discipline him, THEN you have a point. Until then, you are simply spooging all over yourself like a fucking retard.

in this case, the raided the guy the next day....are you actually telling me that checked existing state law to make sure he was in compliance? you and i know they didn't, they went shooting first and ask questions later. at this time, no one even knows if he broke state law, that is what i am talking about, obama is not keeping his promise regarding this. and until you can link me to where obama repudiates what the dea said, i'm sticking by my comments.

I am betting the DEA knows exactly what the state laws are. I am betting they know that the DEA and other law enforcement agencies here in CO have asked for the State to clarify some very grey areas.

I am betting they reacted (as they SAID they did) to the guy bragging on channel 9 about his making several hundred thousand this year....which by itself would be a VIOLATION of the current laws. (though again, the State has not made this very clear as to how profitable these dispensaries can be)

The fact that this idiot was bragging about his MJ crop, living within a block from a school.... they were wise to act fast.

 

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I am betting the DEA knows exactly what the state laws are.

I wouldn't make that bet.

 

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lol, so making a couple hundred thousand dollars means you don't care about patients? i guess the president doesn't care about us citizens as he makes 400 thousand dollars

Again dipshit... this is where YOU are unfamiliar with the CO state laws on dispensaries. The owners are supposedly growing and distributing for the 'betterment of the patients'. They are not supposed to be growing so that they can make large profits. The state also has as a law that a dispensary (again I doubt this guy has a license) can only have 6 plants per patient. This guy had about 120 plants. He could have 20 patients or more... but I seriously doubt he has the capability of making 400k selling to MJ card holders... assuming again he is a licensed dispensary in the first place.

 

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Sweetin said agents learned about the operation after seeing a story on KUSA-TV's Web site about Bartkowicz and becoming suspicious, partly because he said he would like to earn around $400,000 a year from selling marijuana.

"Four-hundred-thousand dollars a year goes beyond 'I'm just a caregiver for sick people,'" Sweetin said Sunday.

Sweetin said he was also concerned because the grow was occurring in a residential neighborhood near an elementary school, and the power needed to grow marijuana can be a safety hazard. All those details factored into his decision to send agents to the home, he said.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14401314#ixzz0feQFYkjw

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14401314

 

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OTE=Superfreak;602513]So if a teacher fucks something up... are you going to blame Obama too?

obtuse isn't a color suited to you....also an obvious bit of hyperbole on my part....if obama can't lead the dea office, then he shouldn't go around promising that he can now should he? what the dea does is a far cry from what a teacher does. further, AGAIN, i have yet to see obama repudiate this or other raids.

This is simply absurd yurt. As for your links, I did click on them. The DEA still exists in CO and the DEA HERE IN COLORADO made this call. You are simply jerking off in the corner because you think this somehow means Obama 'lied'. This is the same stupidity we dealt with under Bush. Obama cannot control the actions of every single person working for the government. If someone that does work for the government DOES fuck up... then the proper response is for the admin to discipline that person. IF this DEA agent was wrong in what he did AND the administration does not discipline him, THEN you have a point. Until then, you are simply spooging all over yourself like a fucking retard.

once again, until obama repudiates this, you're just jizzing in your own hand....the buck stops with obama, but apparently you don't believe that....

I am betting the DEA knows exactly what the state laws are. I am betting they know that the DEA and other law enforcement agencies here in CO have asked for the State to clarify some very grey areas.

I am betting they reacted (as they SAID they did) to the guy bragging on channel 9 about his making several hundred thousand this year....which by itself would be a VIOLATION of the current laws. (though again, the State has not made this very clear as to how profitable these dispensaries can be)

The fact that this idiot was bragging about his MJ crop, living within a block from a school.... they were wise to act fast.

great, then we shall see who is wrong. you don't even know if you're right, yet you're jizzing all over yourself because i called obama a liar. as stated above, this isn't the first time with obama. and until obama repudiates this guys statement, obama is a liar. becuase if he doesn't repudiate it, then this guy is obviously telling the truth as to what the dea is actually doing, not what obama is telling the voters....

that you can't see the difference is actually surprising. i expect it from onceler, not you.

 

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"if obama can't lead the dea office"

Yes or no: should every President who had a DEA agent engage in unlawful actions under his tenure have resigned?

 

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Again dipshit... this is where YOU are unfamiliar with the CO state laws on dispensaries. The owners are supposedly growing and distributing for the 'betterment of the patients'. They are not supposed to be growing so that they can make large profits. The state also has as a law that a dispensary (again I doubt this guy has a license) can only have 6 plants per patient. This guy had about 120 plants. He could have 20 patients or more... but I seriously doubt he has the capability of making 400k selling to MJ card holders... assuming again he is a licensed dispensary in the first place.

Sweetin said agents learned about the operation after seeing a story on KUSA-TV's Web site about Bartkowicz and becoming suspicious, partly because he said he would like to earn around $400,000 a year from selling marijuana.

lol....he isn't making 400K, he said he would "like to"

 

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"if obama can't lead the dea office"

Yes or no: should every President who had a DEA agent engage in unlawful actions under his tenure have resigned?

no

should the president unequivocally repudiate such conduct when said conduct gets national attention. yes or no?

 

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obtuse isn't a color suited to you....also an obvious bit of hyperbole on my part....if obama can't lead the dea office, then he shouldn't go around promising that he can now should he? what the dea does is a far cry from what a teacher does. further, AGAIN, i have yet to see obama repudiate this or other raids.

again you fucking moron... his job is to LEAD. Not to hold the hands of every agent on every decision they make. If an agent fucks up... THEN the superiors of that agent should act. IF the superiors do not ACT... THEN the buck stops with Obama you fucking ignorant hack.

once again, until obama repudiates this, you're just jizzing in your own hand....the buck stops with obama, but apparently you don't believe that....

You have already agreed that we don't know if this guy was licensed yet. So what exactly is there for Obama to repudiate at this time?

great, then we shall see who is wrong. you don't even know if you're right, yet you're jizzing all over yourself because i called obama a liar. as stated above, this isn't the first time with obama. and until obama repudiates this guys statement, obama is a liar. becuase if he doesn't repudiate it, then this guy is obviously telling the truth as to what the dea is actually doing, not what obama is telling the voters....

that you can't see the difference is actually surprising. i expect it from onceler, not you.

No dear little retard, I am not jizzing all over myself. I am trying to prevent you from doing so all over the board with your nonsense. I LIVE HERE. THIS BUST HAPPENED WITHIN TEN MILES OF WHERE I LIVE AND WORK. I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITY.

So while I am not positive he didn't get a license, I would certainly be in a better position than YOU to make an educated guess on the matter.

 

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no

should the president unequivocally repudiate such conduct when said conduct gets national attention. yes or no?

No, not always. IF it comes out that this was an unlawful raid, or a raid that went against the policy that he DID implement (Mr. "say one thing & do another"), then I'd like to see him repudiate that or say something about it, yeah.

But the most important thing is that the agent gets discplinary action or whatever the law requires, if he acted against the policy. That's one of the ways you can gauge a policy's effectiveness.

You're really making an idiot of yourself at this point, btw...

 

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No, not always. IF it comes out that this was an unlawful raid, or a raid that went against the policy that he DID implement (Mr. "say one thing & do another"), then I'd like to see him repudiate that or say something about it, yeah.

But the most important thing is that the agent gets discplinary action or whatever the law requires, if he acted against the policy. That's one of the ways you can gauge a policy's effectiveness.

You're really making an idiot of yourself at this point, btw...

i am not making an idiot out of myself, you're just showing your partisan slip again. the guys was clear that the mandate was to still bust people. until and only until obama repudiates that, then i can only believe that obama is saying one thing and actually doing another.....

and you have nothing to counter that, you first lamely tried to say this guy was rogue, then you quickly abandoned that, and now you want to hang your hat on the theory that this guy will get disciplined....yet you don't care what he said about their policy and how they will continue to investigate, thus utilize federal resources, to go after medical dispensaries in direct contrast to obama's campaing promises and his statements last february.

i have actions and this guys words that stand in direct contrast to what obama said. you have nothing.....