so much for not raiding med marijuana places

[Onceler]

lol, your hypocrisy is amazing, you want them to step in, but bash me for wanting obama to repudiate the agents comment on policy....which clearly ignored obama's stated policy

your intellectual dishonesty is sadly not surprising. you will go to any lengths, including dishonesty, just to disagree with and try to get me in some gotcha moment.

Are you really talking about dishonesty in another poster? That's really strange.

You're whole schtick on this thread has been dishonest; you got busted early on, and just kept digging yourself deeper. Your reaction from the get-go has been a knee-jerk, Obama-hater reaction - it hasn't been a reasoned reaction, with expectations that are based on the facts.

Both the cases that are being discussed here are still being investigated. The CO incident - the one for which you called Obama a liar, called for his resignation, said that he can't control his own DEA agents, said that he says one thing and "does" another, etc. - is very unclear as to if the agent was within his guidelines. You have said Obama should repudiate the agent immediately, without further factual evidence, but a cursory glance at the evidence suggests that the guy who they raided was violating at least 2 of the guidelines in the October memo, which you were dismissive of and implied were irrelevant, simply because you hate Obama so much.

I posted the memo a few posts back - you should read it, because you clearly haven't.

Since the Feds were raiding at a clip of about 30 a year on MM sites, I'm realistic enough to understand that there will be some unjustified raids for a time until the new policy becomes habit. If there is a pattern of unjustified raids, I DO expect something to be done about that. But I don't jump in immediately after an incident, which is still being investigated, and say Obama is a liar & should resign because he isn't immediately repudiating something.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Are you really talking about dishonesty in another poster? That's really strange.

You're whole schtick on this thread has been dishonest; you got busted early on, and just kept digging yourself deeper. Your reaction from the get-go has been a knee-jerk, Obama-hater reaction - it hasn't been a reasoned reaction, with expectations that are based on the facts.

Both the cases that are being discussed here are still being investigated. The CO incident - the one for which you called Obama a liar, called for his resignation, said that he can't control his own DEA agents, said that he says one thing and "does" another, etc. - is very unclear as to if the agent was within his guidelines. You have said Obama should repudiate the agent immediately, without further factual evidence, but a cursory glance at the evidence suggests that the guy who they raided was violating at least 2 of the guidelines in the October memo, which you were dismissive of and implied were irrelevant, simply because you hate Obama so much.

I posted the memo a few posts back - you should read it, because you clearly haven't.

Since the Feds were raiding at a clip of about 30 a year on MM sites, I'm realistic enough to understand that there will be some unjustified raids for a time until the new policy becomes habit. If there is a pattern of unjustified raids, I DO expect something to be done about that. But I don't jump in immediately after an incident, which is still being investigated, and say Obama is a liar & should resign because he isn't immediately repudiating something.

seriously, why do you continue to be dishonest? i have repeatedly stated it is not just this one raid, it is the other raids and the policy as stated by this agent.

you say that if the agents do not follow policy, then the administration should step in. yet, when i call for obama to repudiate these statements, or at a minimum have the agent repudiate his own statements regarding investigating dispensaries, which he said all were illegal, you claim i am a hater.

that you can't see the hypocrisy shows me you have no desire to honestly discuss this. all you care about being right and catching me in a gotcha moment. since you keep failing at this, you have resorted to misrepresenting what i said and when you keep getting called on it, you flail around and keep calling me a hater....

whatever dude, if you going to keep this up, there really is no reason to discuss this issue with you further.

 

[Onceler]

I haven't misrepresented what you said in the slightest, CBO guy. Your first reaction to the article in the OP was that Obama is a liar. When I called you on it and said you were referring to the article in the OP and the CO incident, you said you were talking in general, and not referring to the incident in the article with the "liar" comment. Then, when I said you were referring to it again, you said you weren't.

I guess you were only referring to it if it's convenient to whatever argument you are making at a given time?

If anyone misrepresented what you said, it's you - frankly, it's a bit difficult to keep up with your face-saving flip flops, which are frequent and quite weird...

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

I haven't misrepresented what you said in the slightest, CBO guy. Your first reaction to the article in the OP was that Obama is a liar. When I called you on it and said you were referring to the article in the OP and the CO incident, you said you were talking in general, and not referring to the incident in the article with the "liar" comment. Then, when I said you were referring to it again, you said you weren't.

I guess you were only referring to it if it's convenient to whatever argument you are making at a given time?

If anyone misrepresented what you said, it's you - frankly, it's a bit difficult to keep up with your face-saving flip flops, which are frequent and quite weird...

please link to where i said i wasn't talking about the incident in the article. you tried this shit last night and the quote you had from said "theme", so, let's see you make an ass out of yourself again....

i want the direct link to where i said i wasn't talking about the article at all...time to back it up onceler

 

[Onceler]

lol....no comment as to why obama or holder haven't repudiated the statements

thanks for proving you're just a hack, and btw, this isn't the first time obama's dea have done this, it has happened a few times in cali and has been discussed on this board, so i am not calling him a liar for this once incident....it is well known obama hasn't kept his promise about this

"I am not calling him a liar for this one incident"

That was easy...

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

"I am not calling him a liar for this one incident"

That was easy...

thank you for admitting you lied, it is clear the context i am calling him a liar for not just this incident, but for other incidences as well, i explained this to you a few times yesterday, but you're just to dishonest to admit it

this isn't the first time obama's dea have done this, it has happened a few times in cali

obviously "this" is referring to the incident that is the subject of this thread...., so it is unambiguously clear i am also stating this bust isn't the first time obama's dea has done this.....further, i also mention this in the post you quoted:

....no comment as to why obama or holder haven't repudiated the statements

but yeah, take my quickly worded sentence completely out of context and lie about what i said, despite numerous posts saying it is not "just" about this one incident....

you're so desperate you can't think straight and its clear its getting harder for you maintain your lies.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

you really are more stupid than i thought....

Bush Era Medical Marijuana Foe Nominated by Obama to Head DEA

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/february152010/dea_leonhart_tk.php

Marijuana Activists Stunned Over Obama's Bush-Era Pick For DEA



http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/city-news/obama-dea-pick/

what evidence do you have medical marijuana has advanced under obama? lets see your proof that it has advanced at a higher RATE under obama than bush....

obama apologists like onceler of course ignore this

 

[Onceler]

Nah -you just want it both ways. You don't want the "liar" from your first post to refer to the CO incident, because you now realize how stupid that is, but you do when it's convenient. It's pretty obvious how much you're waffling; I think you understand how knee-jerk your reaction was, and the ODS that it revealed.

Frankly, it IS somewhat dizzying trying to keep up with all of your twists & turns. It doesn't really matter; your reactions throughout most of the thread have been classic ODS; there is nothing reasoned about them, and most of them are based on less than a full accounting of the facts.

You're a hater; the first step is admitting it....

 

[Minister of Truth]

I'm a hater, but that doesn't mean I want to get over it...

 

[Onceler]

I'm a hater, but that doesn't mean I want to get over it...

I relished in my Bush hate for awhile, though I have to say, I never really hated the guy. I hated that he was Prez.

Now that he's out of office, he seems kind of harmless. I have to keep reminding myself that he's responsible for the deaths of thousands...

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Nah -you just want it both ways. You don't want the "liar" from your first post to refer to the CO incident, because you now realize how stupid that is, but you do when it's convenient. It's pretty obvious how much you're waffling; I think you understand how knee-jerk your reaction was, and the ODS that it revealed.

Frankly, it IS somewhat dizzying trying to keep up with all of your twists & turns. It doesn't really matter; your reactions throughout most of the thread have been classic ODS; there is nothing reasoned about them, and most of them are based on less than a full accounting of the facts.

You're a hater; the first step is admitting it....

seriously? i don't want the "liar" to refer to this incident? in the post you just quoted i said "this" isn't the first time, and in the first post i said theme, i also mentioned obama repudiating the dea's policy statements....but you really would have us believe i am not calling him a liar for this incident, despite numerous posts of mine saying he is a liar not "just" for this incident, but others as well.

you took my sentence out of context and if you add the word "just" in there, it meshes with the rest of my posts and the rest of the post you quoted. you're just being a dishonest hack because you have failed at every desperate turn to get me in some gotcha moment....

and i guess i have to refresh your memory from last night where you said my first post in this thread was ONLY about this incident because last night you were calling me a liar and claiming i said i wasn't talking about this incident, which is in direct contrast to your claims today that i said i am "not" talking aobut this incident.....who is flip flopping around onceler? you. let's see where last night you actually accused me of lying because you claim i said i was talking ONLY about this incident:

Here it is - very first reaction.

Yeah; I'm sure you weren't talking about this particular incident.

Isn't it a bummer when your own words pwn you?



Try to stop hating...

you cited this post in support that i WAS in fact talking about this incident:

obama lied

seems to be quite the theme with obama, say one thing, do another

of course, after i pointed out to you the word theme, you realized your error and that i was in fact referring to this incident and others as part of a "theme".....you change course and today accuse me of saying i was NOT talking about this incident....

nice try onceler, but honestly, this is your most embarrassing attempt at a gotcha moment ever

 

[Topspin]

Spurt, I'm adding you to ignore. I thought southernman and uscitizen were some stubborn dumbfucks but you take the cake. A supposed lawyer debating that medical mj hasn't advanced more under Obama is beyond you actually being a sophomore in college stupid. I'm amazed you keep sf and oncelor in as long as you did. Later muther fucker, if I ever see you I will whip you ass.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Spurt, I'm adding you to ignore. I thought southernman and uscitizen were some stubborn dumbfucks but you take the cake. A supposed lawyer debating that medical mj hasn't advanced more under Obama is beyond you actually being a sophomore in college stupid. I'm amazed you keep sf and oncelor in as long as you did. Later muther fucker, if I ever see you I will whip you ass.

lol...coward, obviously you can't provide the evidence i asked for, so you wuss out and put me on ignore...

how difficult would it be to simply show me how it has advanced under obama vs. bush? and difficult would it be for you to address obama hiring one of bush's dea goons? obviously so difficult you puss out and then talk about whipping my ass....sorry fag, you ain't touching my ass and if you ever threaten me again (this is from your PM) you will reap what you sow.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

lol....onceler ran away from post 131....hate it when your own words show you're a liar and whiney hack that makes up different false accusations on consecutive days... don't you onceler....

 

[Minister of Truth]

Spurt, I'm adding you to ignore. I thought southernman and uscitizen were some stubborn dumbfucks but you take the cake. A supposed lawyer debating that medical mj hasn't advanced more under Obama is beyond you actually being a sophomore in college stupid. I'm amazed you keep sf and oncelor in as long as you did. Later muther fucker, if I ever see you I will whip you ass.

You're the most childish poster on this site. The idea that you have anyone on ignore is laughable!!

 

[Onceler]

lol....onceler ran away from post 131....hate it when your own words show you're a liar and whiney hack that makes up different false accusations on consecutive days... don't you onceler....

"Ran away"...I can't tell you how much I love that now.

Yes, I did argue that you were talking about the incident; because - at that time - you were denying that you were talking about the incident.

See now? Probably not. I'm convinced you're certifiable at this point (hint - it's probably the ODS).....

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

"Ran away"...I can't tell you how much I love that now.

Yes, I did argue that you were talking about the incident; because - at that time - you were denying that you were talking about the incident.

See now? Probably not. I'm convinced you're certifiable at this point (hint - it's probably the ODS).....

lol....nice try liar. don't you hate it when you can't remember what lie you told yesterday and it comes back to bite you in the ass.....*hint* both accusations which are the exact opposite of each other, cite my first post in this thread....

zing!

notice you can't explain your way around post 131....thanks for admitting you lied onceler, i'm proud of you.

 

[Onceler]

I have lied about nothing...I deny every charge!

I love the chest-thumping about "post 131"...why, it's taken on an almost mythical quality at this point.

You need to re-read the thread, psychopath - you change your mind about 3-4 times on whether the "liar" comment was about the CO incident.

And hey, if you're now saying it was - isn't that kind of stupid because (as you admitted a few times)...all the facts aren't in on that, and it's not clear at all that the agent was in violation of the new policy?

Oops. So concerned about the "gotcha" that you didn't realize you were painting yourself into a corner.

Too late now; the paint's pretty wet. This thread has been loads of fun.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

I have lied about nothing...I deny every charge!

I love the chest-thumping about "post 131"...why, it's taken on an almost mythical quality at this point.

You need to re-read the thread, psychopath - you change your mind about 3-4 times on whether the "liar" comment was about the CO incident.

And hey, if you're now saying it was - isn't that kind of stupid because (as you admitted a few times)...all the facts aren't in on that, and it's not clear at all that the agent was in violation of the new policy?

Oops. So concerned about the "gotcha" that you didn't realize you were painting yourself into a corner.

Too late now; the paint's pretty wet. This thread has been loads of fun.

absolutely false. i want the 3 or 4 links, because the one you already gave us actually had me talking about this incident, yet you falsely claim i wasn't....

what is truly funny and at the same time, pathetic, about your lies, is that yesterday you claim i was only talking about this incident and today, you claim i am not talkign about this incident....

lol, can't keep your lies straight for even one day

 

[Onceler]

absolutely false. i want the 3 or 4 links, because the one you already gave us actually had me talking about this incident, yet you falsely claim i wasn't....

what is truly funny and at the same time, pathetic, about your lies, is that yesterday you claim i was only talking about this incident and today, you claim i am not talkign about this incident....

lol, can't keep your lies straight for even one day

"I want 3-4 links" - oh, the demands. Just read through the thread; if you really can't find it, I'll link it.

I see you ignored that fact that you painted yourself in the corner by finally (reluctantly) admitting that your initial response WAS about the CO incident, and how frenzied w/ Obama hate that makes you look.

Keep digging, Yurtsie (psycho)....