so much for not raiding med marijuana places

Yurt, you have ODS. And I'm talking from experience - there was a brief time there when I had BDS, particularly after the Iraq invasion.

But you have it, no question. A rogue agent who raided an idiot bragging about making hundreds of thousands does not mean "Obama lied." Like I said, the policies Obama has in place now will likely mean anyone engaging in unauthorized raids will be disciplined, and send a message to any other agents who have raids b in mind.

You're just a hater...

what is truly embarrassing about this is that at as early as post 29 onceler readily notes that i am calling obama a liar concerning this incident

how the hell he ever later came up with the theory that i wasn't talking about this incident from the get go is beyond me. its clear he can't keep up with his lies from one day to the next.....
 
Cool; I'm glad you FINALLY admit you have ODS, and that your initial response was a knee-jerk hater reaction, not based on facts.

Thanks; that took awhile....
 
You always say stuff like that; I don't admit anything unless I actually admit it.

I have been asking you for many posts now, and you can't answer: if your initial response WAS about the CO incident, do you then believe that the agent was completely in the wrong, and that there was nothing about who he raided that violated Obama's policy?

If you can't answer that, you're admitting you have ODS, and that your initial response was pretty dumb....

as you can't show where i changed my mind 3 or 4 times, it is clear to all that you lied.

i have stated repeatedly the agent was in the wrong for his statements concerning policy <----

no one at this time knows whether this guy was legal or not. however, the agents comments about raiding medicinal dispensaries, obama hiring a bush dea goon and obama's admin's other raids, lead me to believe this is a theme with obama, say one thing, do another.

that is basically the same thing i said in my first post in this thread. you're just bent all out of shape because you've failed repeatedly to catch me in a gotcha moment. you're obsessed to the point of calling me psychotic. here is a hint dude, you're projecting.
 
Cool; I'm glad you FINALLY admit you have ODS, and that your initial response was a knee-jerk hater reaction, not based on facts.

Thanks; that took awhile....

not true...

but i see you can't provide the 3 or 4 times i allegedly changed my mind. using your logic from above, you FINALLY admit you are a lying as you have no links to back up your assertion.

it was based on facts, the agents statements, obama's prior raids and obama hiring a bush dea goon....
 
"you're projecting"

I'm not, though. Your responses in this thread have been classic hater-overreaction.

Again - liar, says one thing, does another, he should resign, he can't control his own DEA agents; you've been a nut, and it's all about a recent incident, for which the facts have not come out yet (and which the facts that we know look somewhat incriminating for the guy they raided).

If you've kept up w/ the news, Sweetin actually came out today w/ a much more toned-down statement about things. There was some opinion in the CO news that he clearly got some direction from above, behind the scenes.

Imo, this is not a bad example of leadership, if it came from the admin in some way - don't embarass the agent & the DEA publicly, but take care of it.

But not you - he must repudiate him immediately, in the most public way! He must resign!

Psycho....
 
provide the 3 or 4 times i changed my mind onceler.

Why?

You never answer the questions I ask you, and aren't answer the one I've asked you about a dozen times now.

I showed the contradictions; that's enough for me. I find it amazing that you don't even care that you contradicted yourself.
 
we're done. i am tired of your lies in this thread. its clear you have no intention of discussing this honestly, all you're doing is making a bunch of false claims and when asked to back them up with links, you don't. so i am through wasting my time with you in this thread.

enjoy :clink:
 
"discussing this honestly?"

Sorry, crazy man - that starts with you answering the question I have asked time & again.

I'm amazed that you're so afraid to address it. You're kind of an intellectual lightweight, though; you'd rather cut & paste previous threads, and cite thread #'s in lame "gotcha" attempts.

Why not address the heart of the matter? Your rush to judgment, and Obama hate.
 
He has not stopped the raids. Those involved in delivering marijuana are still uncertain of their legal status. His policy, if it ever takes effect, is gone with his administration. In what way has he advanced MM?

Show me where there were raids on dispenceries that were following state law.
 
In what way, lol
you people are not well read. Cali and Denver have prob 1,000 more shops now than pre Obama.
 
In what way, lol
you people are not well read. Cali and Denver have prob 1,000 more shops now than pre Obama.

what does this have to do with obama? during bush's last year in office thousands of more shops opened than in 2007....

this proves nothing

and why do you keep ignoring obama hiring an ex bush dea goon michele leonhart........she is extremely anti marijuana and medical marijuana

i suggest you do some reading yourself as you are totally clueless
 
what does this have to do with obama? during bush's last year in office thousands of more shops opened than in 2007....

this proves nothing

and why do you keep ignoring obama hiring an ex bush dea goon michele leonhart........she is extremely anti marijuana and medical marijuana

i suggest you do some reading yourself as you are totally clueless

You should do some reading, and get past your hate. The policy introduced in October was hailed as a major step by advocates of legalization, and the general thought is that it will lead other states to follow the lead of the 14 states that have legal MM and pass measures allowing for it.

Raids on MM's practically defined the Bush years. There have been a couple of raids since the policy came out in October, but no prosecutions. In the CO raid, as I've pointed out, it looked on the surface like the guy was violating at least 2 of the guidelines outlined by the policy - it's very clear on the idea that they should still go after dealers using MM as a front. And, judging by Sweetin's comments a few days later, he likely got some behind-the-scenes "guidance." I'd wager that if we have this discussion at the end of this year, you won't have a lot to hang onto in terms of the policy being ineffectual.

You're just clouded by hate.
 
LOS ANGELES, Jan 26 (Reuters) - The Los Angeles City Council approved an ordinance on Tuesday that will shut down hundreds of medical marijuana dispensaries that recently opened in America's second-largest city.

The statute, passed on a 9-3 vote, ultimately would limit the number of licensed dispensaries to 70 and require them to be at least 1,000 feet (300 meters) from schools, public parks, libraries or churches.

Rather than imposing a similar buffer zone around homes, the measure would bar marijuana dispensaries from being located next door to, across the street, or across an alley from residential properties.

Los Angeles has some 1,000 dispensaries operating under a 1996 California law that decriminalized cannabis for medical use -- the first U.S. state to do so -- and a 2003 ballot measure that allowed pot to be cultivated and distributed to prescription-holding patients through nonprofit collectives.

But some city officials and residents complained that things have gotten out of control, with many pot shops operating as commercial businesses that cater as much to recreational drug users as to cancer patients.

In 2007, the city imposed a temporary moratorium on dispensaries, but a loophole in the measure has enabled hundreds more to open since then.

The bulk of those opened last year after U.S. President Barack Obama reversed a Bush administration policy and ended federal raids on dispensaries in states where medical marijuana had been legalized.
Controversy over pot shops has been less intense in other cities, like San Francisco and Oakland. In northern California towns like Arcata and Eureka, where marijuana has long been part of the social fabric and local economy, illicit growers have reportedly stepped up production to meet rising demand generated by the spread of clinics around the state.

Besides capping the number of dispensaries in Los Angeles, the new ordinance imposes new restrictions on them.

It limits hours of operations to between 10 a.m. and 8 p.m., imposes stringent security measures and requires them to operate as nonprofit collectives, with each patient limited to having cannabis prescriptions filled from just one dispensary. (Editing by Dan Whitcomb and Stacey Joyce)
 
lol...topspin's post actually proves obama had little or nothing to do with the number of MM dispensaries:

In 2007, the city imposed a temporary moratorium on dispensaries, but a loophole in the measure has enabled hundreds more to open since then.

the city was mostly responsible, not obama you idiot

what do you think of obama's pick to head the DEA? do you even know her background and this has alarmed MM advocates... wake up you ass kissing obama tool....
 
The bulk of those opened last year after U.S. President Barack Obama reversed a Bush administration policy and ended federal raids on dispensaries in states where medical marijuana had been legalized.
 
The bulk of those opened last year after U.S. President Barack Obama reversed a Bush administration policy and ended federal raids on dispensaries in states where medical marijuana had been legalized.

AFTER the city stopped the moritorium...

what do you think of obama's pick to head the dea? you keep running from it....and we all know you're reading my posts, you're directly responding them, so cut the crap, convince me obama is not going back on his promise by saying one thing and doing another....this is one issue you and i agree on, don't be a dick
 
lol...topspin's post actually proves obama had little or nothing to do with the number of MM dispensaries:



the city was mostly responsible, not obama you idiot

what do you think of obama's pick to head the DEA? do you even know her background and this has alarmed MM advocates... wake up you ass kissing obama tool....

You're ignoring reality.

I have little doubt you are googling quite a bit on this issue, and must come across articles that commend the policy, and express that it will lead to many more MM dispensaries, as well as measures legalizing in other states.

But you ignore them; because you are intellectually dishonest, and hate.

It's a good policy, and a welcome change from what was going on before...
 
AFTER the city stopped the moritorium...

what do you think of obama's pick to head the dea? you keep running from it....and we all know you're reading my posts, you're directly responding them, so cut the crap, convince me obama is not going back on his promise by saying one thing and doing another....this is one issue you and i agree on, don't be a dick

Obama is a douche OK, a masingil heir. That doesn't change the fact that he has losened the shit out of medical MJ he just hasn't done enough just like the wars.

The Drug Zar is the former Seatlle police chief where they had adopted the least priority on mj arrest.
I call it tiny progress, but Bush had fucking Ashcroft who jailed Tommy Chong for selling bongs. Many in the movement consider progress huge, but many are pissed as hell Obama mocks mj smokers as just stoners.
 
Obama is a douche OK, a masingil heir. That doesn't change the fact that he has losened the shit out of medical MJ he just hasn't done enough just like the wars.

The Drug Zar is the former Seatlle police chief where they had adopted the least priority on mj arrest.
I call it tiny progress, but Bush had fucking Ashcroft who jailed Tommy Chong for selling bongs. Many in the movement consider progress huge, but many are pissed as hell Obama mocks mj smokers as just stoners.

obama hired bush Administration holdover Michele Leonhart as chief of the Drug Enforcement Administration....

link

bush was an ass about it, no doubt....but it seems to me that the agents statements regarding dea policy are in direct contrast to obama's stated policy....and obama hiring michele leonhart....MM advocates are outraged and rightfully so....i suggest you look into her past, i have no idea why obama hired someone so virulantly anti MM to head the dea....couple this with the agents statements, continued raids and at this point i am led to believe obama is saying one thing and doing another....
 
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