Put up or shut up.
Department of education.
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Dutch Uncle
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I think the entire reason the DOE existed was because the States agreed that standardization was necessary. Businesses want to be able to rely upon standardized degrees be they HS or college. If they have to maintain their own databases of which states provide quality education and do not, then that's an unnecessary cost for every business in the country. Standardization across the nation is not only more efficient for business, but part of national security since the military and other government agencies would want to be able to rely upon standardization too.
That said, there's the old joke that an elephant is a mouse built to government specifications. There are several jokes about bureaucracies but I've learned they are a necessity in order for government to have checks and balances. Dictatorships are much more efficient but not conducive to freedoms for the citizenry.
In short, I support the States and Feds working together to provide world class educations to our children. It worked well into the 90s when the two major parties decided to put party agendas ahead of the best interests of the nation.
BartenderElite
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The stat you posted is wrong. It's not my job to teach anyone here.
Feel free to look up the actual facts any ol' time.
Dutch Uncle
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You're getting maudlin, Legina.
Then blow it out your ass.
I still own you
BartenderElite
Verified User
It's almost like Trump is allergic to the truth. And that has trickled down to MAGA politicians & pundits - they basically make up whatever stats and stories they need to promote their agenda. The truth literally doesn't matter.
Their supporters should set the bar higher, and actually check what they're saying against reality. To this point, they choose not to, which is why the MAGA movement is so strong.
But the foundation, without truth, is shaky.
Their supporters should set the bar higher, and actually check what they're saying against reality. To this point, they choose not to, which is why the MAGA movement is so strong.
But the foundation, without truth, is shaky.
Diesel
Well-known member
She doesn't know why someone should provide proof for a claim that they make on a political debate forum.Poor dumb "teacher," can't even snark without fucking it up.
What a dumb fucking bitch.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
You're such a corporate toady! Hope they're paying you scale at least for your trolling:
Addressing just one of the lies by the Cheeto Jeezus acolytes:
Is only 25% of Education Department funding for students? No
In a March 16 podcast interview, Rep. Harriet Hageman, R-Wyo., said the Trump administration is right to target the Educ
www.politifact.com
And here's a little education for you as to what the DOE actually does:
www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/18/what-the-data-says-about-the-us-department-of-education/
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I'm married, Legina.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
MAGAts lie a lot.You're such a corporate toady! Hope they're paying you scale at least for your trolling:
Addressing just one of the lies by the Cheeto Jeezus acolytes:
Is only 25% of Education Department funding for students? No
In a March 16 podcast interview, Rep. Harriet Hageman, R-Wyo., said the Trump administration is right to target the Educ
And here's a little education for you as to what the DOE actually does:
www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/18/what-the-data-says-about-the-us-department-of-education/
Why does the US rank so low?You're such a corporate toady! Hope they're paying you scale at least for your trolling:
Addressing just one of the lies by the Cheeto Jeezus acolytes:
Is only 25% of Education Department funding for students? No
In a March 16 podcast interview, Rep. Harriet Hageman, R-Wyo., said the Trump administration is right to target the Educ
And here's a little education for you as to what the DOE actually does:
www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/18/what-the-data-says-about-the-us-department-of-education/
U.S. students’ academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries
American students continue to rank around the middle of the pack, and behind many other advanced industrial nations, in international assessments of math, science and reading.
www.pewresearch.org
Diesel
Well-known member
You should read what dumb fuck @Dachshund wrote a few minutes ago. I only read the first paragraph because it said that one mustn't use the word "oligarchy" unless we're writing a textbook cuz it's too hard and that Trump would never say "oligarchy" at one of his rallies.
Well, no shit. Trump can't spell oligarchy and I'm sure the prodigal foreigner (I thought he was dead) can't pronounce it.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
He's an anti-American Down Under dumbass. I skip over his BS.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Yep. "I said it so you must accept it" -- Toxic's motto.
People make typos all the time; I'm a frequent typo flyer due to visual impairment. Most of us just ignore them. But not Toxic, who feels compelled to point them out and laugh at them. So she richly deserves the same treatment, eh? Esp. given the false claim of once having been an educator.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
You're such a corporate toady! Hope they're paying you scale at least for your trolling:
Addressing just one of the lies by the Cheeto Jeezus acolytes:
Is only 25% of Education Department funding for students? No
In a March 16 podcast interview, Rep. Harriet Hageman, R-Wyo., said the Trump administration is right to target the Educ
And here's a little education for you as to what the DOE actually does:
www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/18/what-the-data-says-about-the-us-department-of-education/
There has already been a long delay in FAFSA and Pell grant approvals due to lack of personnel to process them. This delays students' ability to begin classes. Won't laying off all the DOE staff make this worse? Is that the real aim here -- discourage college educations for those who can't pay cash?