Is agnosticism a cop-out?

[Neoclitorus]

So, you're @dancindave

That makes sense.

not at all

I write with total clarity.

spare us all the non responsive trolling this morning.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually, no. An atheist is someone who lacks any theism and is specified by what he doesn't believe, i.e. any theism. Anyone professing an affirmative theistic belief, which can be that deities exist or that no deities exist, is specified by what he affirmatively believes theistically and is precluded from being an atheist.

I am an atheist. I do not believe there is any deity and I do not believe there are no deities. I don't have any affirmative theistic beliefs, hence atheism.

• Atheist – Someone who does not believe in a god or gods. This is about belief (or the lack of it).
• Agnostic – Someone who does not claim to know whether a god or gods exist. This is about knowledge (or uncertainty).

Atheism is a religion - based on faith that there is no god or gods.

 

[Neoclitorus]

I financed mudering the world with non-existent money.

You're welcome.

I am Satan.

 

[Neoclitorus]

If your point is that you, as the owner of morality, declare me to be a bad person ... I suppose I can live with that.

it's not about me.

morality is a objective thing.

you just want a fig leaf of confusion over soft kill eugenics and purposeful genocide.

 

[Daylight63]

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Thanks for tacitly admitting that whatever posts I write here, are actually not idiotic but are generally based on the best science has to offer.

Why do you always start posts like this? You KNOW that I am actually disagreeing with your lame-ass approach of only namechecking.

You dont' seem to actually READ what you claim you read. You just list books you've read as if that is somehow evidence that you understand your own point.

Sorry, not buying it.

Stop with the dishonest shit of this opening.

 

[Neoclitorus]

Your ignorance is deep - you must be a democrat.

that's what fascist say when called out.

"supply side" means "business should be worshipped".

its that whole banker cocksucker atlas shrugged " oligarchs are the only real people" libertarian nonsense.

 

[Neoclitorus]

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Why do you always start posts like this? You KNOW that I am actually disagreeing with your lame-ass approach of only namechecking.

You dont' seem to actually READ what you claim you read. You just list books you've read as if that is somehow evidence that you understand your own point.

Sorry, not buying it.

Stop with the dishonest shit of this opening.

that's what Masonic gatekeepers who are bad at their job do.

 

[Cypress]

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Why do you always start posts like this? You KNOW that I am actually disagreeing with your lame-ass approach of only namechecking.

You claimed to have a PhD in geochem but are obviously unaware that any scientific paper one picks up is full of 'name checks' by way of citation to authorities and previous studies.

Since no one on this board can possibly claim to have their own independent and original theories on cosmology and quantum physics, of course I am going to back my posts up by reference to subject matter experts. It obviously just bothers you that I am fairly widely read.

You dont' seem to actually READ what you claim you read. You just list books you've read as if that is somehow evidence that you understand your own point.

Sorry, not buying it.

Stop withthe dishonest shit of this opening.

I think Dutch Uncle is right that you are just jealous and resentful of me.

How would you know I listed books I've read; I haven't done that in a long while and only one of your previous socks would know that.

 

[Daylight63]

You claimed to have a PhD in geochem

No I did not. Please show me where. I do not have such a degree.

I think Dutch Uncle is right that you are just jealous and resentful of me.

Oh, sorry. Actually I find you interestingly uneducated. You talk a big game but can never really follow through. I LOVE addressing your facile and poorly reasoned points!

You're fun! You are uneducated but you seem to think yourself quite smart. I love interacting with people like that. You're hilarious!

 

[Cypress]

No I did not. Please show me where. I do not have such a degree.



Oh, sorry. Actually I find you interestingly uneducated. You talk a big game but can never really follow through. I LOVE addressing your facile and poorly reasoned points!

You're fun! You are uneducated but you seem to think yourself quite smart. I love interacting with people like that. You're hilarious!

Thanks for admitting you only know about books I've read via your previous socks puppets, Perry PhD

 

[dancindave]

So, you're @dancindave

That makes sense.

Only if dancindave &/or saltydancindave was obtained by Federal Lynching KKKidnapping in Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist still collecting on “what is 9/11 ?” rhetorical Freudian slip…….

 

[Neoclitorus]

You claimed to have a PhD in geochem but are obviously unaware that any scientific paper one picks up is full of 'name checks' by way of citation to authorities and previous studies.

Since no one on this board can possibly claim to have their own independent and original theories on cosmology and quantum physics, of course I am going to back my posts up by reference to subject matter experts. It obviously just bothers you that I am fairly widely read.


I think Dutch Uncle is right that you are just jealous and resentful of me.

How would you know I listed books I've read; I haven't done that in a long while and only one of your previous socks would know that.

but eventually name checking must resolve into the details of the realities of the experiments conducted to verify truth, and their flaws, with new approaches for the next round of reality discovery.


you're an imperialist for the empire of bullshit.

 

[Daylight63]

Thanks for admitting you only know about books I've read via your previous socks puppets, Perry PhD

I admit no such thing. Why are you so dishonest? You know you could do a lot better on here if you were more honest. Don't be like your buffoon friend, Doc. Be a better person.

You know you can be.

 

[Daylight63]

Thanks for admitting you only know about books I've read via your previous socks puppets, Perry PhD

I've read the Bhaghvad Gita.

Have you read the Dhammapada? I seriously doubt it.

but most of the stuff I've read in the sacred religious texts of Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism,

These are just in the last few days.

Yeah, you expend a lot of time telling everyone what you've read. Doesn't require that I be SOMEONE ELSE to figure this out.

 

[Into the Night]

Makes sense. Sounds to me like what you’re saying is a so-called atheist can’t prove there is no god and a fundamentalist can’t prove there is one. So basically everyone is an I Don’t Knower.

Heh. That's one way to put it!

Yes. It is not possible to prove any circular argument (or argument of faith) either TRUE or FALSE.

I happen to be a Christian. I believe there is a God, and his Son, Jesus Christ, and try to follow their teachings. I can't prove it, and I don't plan to try. I simply take it on faith, and the evidence supporting it. (Note that evidence is not a proof).

 

[Into the Night]

eat shit fascism lover.

What makes you think he loves fascism, NoName?

 

[Into the Night]

Actually, no. An atheist is someone who lacks any theism and is specified by what he doesn't believe, i.e. any theism. Anyone professing an affirmative theistic belief, which can be that deities exist or that no deities exist, is specified by what he affirmatively believes theistically and is precluded from being an atheist.

I am an atheist. I do not believe there is any deity and I do not believe there are no deities. I don't have any affirmative theistic beliefs, hence atheism.

He's close. He's just confusing what is knowable and an atheist, which has no religion.
An agnostic typically has a religion, but can't describe it clearly (because of what is knowable).

 

[Into the Night]

You clearly don't know what it means to be atheist.

Inversion fallacy. An atheist is one without religion. The therm 'theist' means religion. The prefix 'a-' negates it.

You clearly don't know what The term religion means.

All religions are based on some initial circular argument (or Argument of Faith), and have all of their other arguments stemming from that.

You don't get to speak for Dawkins.

Dawkins is a fundamentalist in the Church of No God. A fundamentalist style religion. He is not an atheist or an agnostic.

Those are a few of the fails in your post.

Assumption of victory fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Into the Night]

ok jackboot corporatist.

Buzzword fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

yeah. sometimes ITG ANd Ibda-man become joined at the brain and commensurately retarded.

Mantra 1a. Lame.