Papal front runners. If the Black guy becomes the next pope, white Republicans will scream DEI till their buttholes explode

Damocles said:
Personally I don't think either political party will do anything at all. Now, if the Pontiff was elected by Americans you'd get that crap, but he isn't... I just don't think anyone is going to care much. The worst I heard about Benedict was "he's a socialist"... facts are not insults.
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Benedict was one of the most conservative Popes in our times. I don't know who thought he was a socialist.

4. Pope Benedict XVI (2005 – 2013)

The State which would provide everything, absorbing everything into itself, would ultimately become a mere bureaucracy incapable of guaranteeing the very thing which the suffering person—every person—needs: namely, loving personal concern. We do not need a State which regulates and controls everything, but a State which, in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity, generously acknowledges and supports initiatives arising from the different social forces and combines spontaneity with closeness to those in need. The Church is one of those living forces.
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~Encyclical Letter of Pope Benedict XVI
 
Dutch Uncle said:
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Cypress said:
The four canonical gospels were chosen by church authorities after careful deliberation, strict and rational selection criteria, and a genuine effort to weed out other gospels that were forgeries or legendary accounts, in an effort to establish the divine truth of revelation.

The fact that Protestants are using the same the same gospels as those originally established by Catholic church authority means that in a certain sense Protestants also accept ecclesiastical authority over scriptural authority.
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Protests believe God protects his message and God protected it when the church authorities selected the cannons. It was God's guidance not some evidence of Catholic Church's ecclesiastical authority. If the Catholic Church had known Revelations' message they would have never let it be included in the New Testament. God made sure Revelation passed through the Catholic Church's hands so it could be properly interpreted for the end of time.
 
FastLane said:
Protests believe God protects his message and God protected it when the church authorities selected the cannons. It was God's guidance not some evidence of Catholic Church's ecclesiastical authority. If the Catholic Church had known Revelations' message they would have never let it be included in the New Testament. God made sure Revelation passed through the Catholic Church's hands so it could be properly interpreted for the end of time.
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Thanks for admitting you use the scripture that was originally first defined as canonical by the ecclesiastical authority of the Catholic church.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Oh, it's not just here, either. I actually had a fundie preacher tell me that I needed to be rebaptized because Lutherans are really Christians and the baptisms we got as infants don't count. Oh, and o ur hymnss were all wrong and too much like Catholics, who also aren't real Christians.

This is just the typical apelike behavior of a group that needs to lord it over (pun intended) other groups because they need to feel superior to those others, even though to an outsider, their religions are very similar.
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Baptism is a sign of choosing to follow Christ. Infants can't choose to follow Christ.
 
TOP said:
I look forward to modernized traditions in the church... Funny, I didn't specify Catholic churches...;) Pesky details.... Many churches are changing for the better... By going back to what was always traditional...
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You're such a liar. This thread is about the Pope and the Catholic church. You said "the church," not "all churches." Furthermore, your statement is contradictory.

First you said you look forward to "modernized traditions." Then you said change is for the better if churches go back to what was traditional.

You're trying to appear relevant but you can't pull it off. :LOL:
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Oh, it's not just here, either. I actually had a fundie preacher tell me that I needed to be rebaptized because Lutherans are really Christians and the baptisms we got as infants don't count. Oh, and o ur hymnss were all wrong and too much like Catholics, who also aren't real Christians.

This is just the typical apelike behavior of a group that needs to lord it over (pun intended) other groups because they need to feel superior to those others, even though to an outsider, their religions are very similar.
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Actually Protestantism and Catholicism have a very major difference.

It was the Reformationists and NOT the Catholics who decided that salvation was by faith alone.

Intent counts in Catholicism, where Protestants believe we can do nothing in addition to Christ's sacrifice to save ourselves other than believe.

Speaking as the consummate non-populist, and excepting Episcopalians who appear like Catholic-Lites,
I can't believe how any Protestants can look down on Catholics.

Who has the lavish, Cathedral-like churches, the paintings, the sculptures, the classical orchestral works, and the colorful street festivals?

I know it's going too far, but when I think of Middle American Protestants,
I think of Grant Wood's, "American Gothic."

Of course, the Rick Santorums, Paul Ryans, Nino Scalias, Clarence Thomases, and other neo-fundie Catholics of today's era have besmirched the reputation of American Catholics and made it easier for many of us to bolt.
 
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