GHF proves IDF did not shoot at innocent Gazans at aid distribution sites

[moon]

759. Where's IBdeMonkey ? Let's have some more of his contrary posing.
I wonder what he uses as a skin thickener ?

 

[moon]

Maybe he taking a crash course in semantics ?
No hiding place for you there, old boy. Access denied.

Haw, haw....................................haw.

 

[IBDaMann]

Right. Hamas is not al Qassam . As I've said repeatedly, al cqassam is the military arm of Hamas.

... but they are not. Your assertion is, of course, absurd. Al Qassam answers to the Ayatollah of Iran, and to him alone. Al Qassam does not answer to Gaza's administrators. What are you, new?

 

[IBDaMann]

Lie ^

Psychosis ^

The General Assembly has the mechanism to overrride the Security Council.

Delusion ^

 

[ZenMode]

... but they are not. Your assertion is, of course, absurd. Al Qassam answers to the Ayatollah of Iran, and to him alone. Al Qassam does not answer to Gaza's administrators. What are you, new?

Still waiting for your source for this claim. I've requested numerous times.

Surely, you don't expect any to believe you solely based on you saying it, right?

 

[IBDaMann]

All this waffle won't save your ass.

It's not my ass that needs saving. You tried to slip a "The General Assembly overrules the Security Council" in there hoping no one would catch it. Well, I caught it and now you are desperate to save face. You got caught and now you are gibbering incoherently while drooling on your shoe.

You are a totally dishonest coward. You threw away any credibility you might have had and now you are practically begging for a "do over" ... while stupidly trying to blame me for your fuck-up. Yes, I will be reminding you constantly ... starting right now:

You are a totally dishonest coward. You threw away any credibility you might have had and now you are practically begging for a "do over" ... while stupidly trying to blame me for your fuck-up.

Too funny!

Again, the UN General Assembly has a mechanism to overrule the Security Council.

Nope, not in this quadrant.

I'll post it when you're fully committed to being a lying asshole by denying it .

I fully deny it. Proceed with showing me to be a lying asshold.

No point in just crushing your already-dubious reputation

My reputation is solid. I'm the most ignored member of JPP ... next to Dutch-Dutch.

Let's get to, say...a thousand views ..and then finish you off.

So your plan is to wait long enough for everyone to hopefully forget about your gaffe.

I'll be reminding the board periodically of your stupid error *and* of your double-down on stupid. You really ought to just go ahead and make your case now.

The really satisfying thing is that I know that YOU know that I'm right.

The really funny thing is that you are broadcasting how you know that you're egregiously mistaken.

Asshole..

Cum-bubble.. We can do this all day.

The mechanism is no secret. It's common knowledge.

That which is no secret, and that which is common knowledge, is that the additional forum of discussion cannot overrule the legally binding Security Council resolutions. This leads to the question of how you do not know this, or whether you actually know anything in the first place.

Come on back and deny it some more.

Sure. I deny it some more. I fully acknowledge that you are incorrect. I recognize that you don't know the first thing about the UN. I recognize that you cannot distinguish between a militant terrorist organization serving Iran and Gaza's civilian administrators.

Just in case you missed it ... I deny it some more. I deny it some more. I deny it further still.

Feel free to throw it in my face.

 

[IBDaMann]

Still waiting for your source for this claim.

Pivot. There is no such thing as a source for something that is true. Were you going to provide evidence that the Ayatollah loaned out his proxy, Al Qassam, to Gaza's administrators to "take 'em for a spin"? Iran funds Al Qassam at $100 million / year and Hamas never had any money. Are you saying that Iran decided to "lend" Hamas a militant terrorist group out of charity?

I've requested numerous times.

You have never provided any evidence for your absurd claims. Show me the documentation of the Ayatollah's agreement with Hamas requiring the return of Al Qassam in good working order by a specified date.

Surely, you don't expect any to believe you solely based on you saying it, right?

I'm not the one who needs anyone to believe absolute comedy fiction.

 

[IBDaMann]

Untrue, of course.

Nope, totally true, of course.

Have you noticed that you do nothing but delay?

 

[Tobytone]

There are more than two sides. Eyewitnesses are the only side in which I am interested.


Israel, specifically the Likud Party.


Quite the understatement. When the IDF mows down innocent men, women and children just because they are Arab, and then says "Oh, we aren't responsible!" ... there isn't much credibility there.


Let's say, hypothetically, that someone were to claim that Gaza's administrators were of this opinion, is there any evidence to back this up? Obviously the evidence for the IDF's genocidal position is overwhelming, i.e. the active genocide itself.


Too funny! Let's try it this way: The Nazis, whatever their flaws were,


They don't advocate it. They do it. By the looks of it, they're just getting started. Israel has broken every cease-fire. Israel sabotages all peace talks. Israel will not stop slaughtering Arabs by the thousands ... Arabs who never attacked Israel and who never had anyone "hiding behind" them.


I don't recognize those who self-identify as Palestinian as being Palestinian because there is no Palestine. I don't recognize vampires and trans-women either.


Do your insticts flare when Zionist terrorists blow up apartment buildings, shopping centers, schools and hospitals just because they are full of Arabs? Do you totally fall for it when the terrorists thereafter pretend that they somehow took out a "Hamas military base" or something equally absurd.


Thanks for reminding me. Murders of gays in Israel has been increasing for years.


Thanks for reminding me. Israelis oppress Arabs like they are slaves. Any IDF commander can raze any Arab's home for morale and amusement purposes, and arrest him without any sort of warrant or court order. After said Arab has sat in jail for a few weeks and is released because there never was any evidence of any crime, they don't rebuild his home. Israel rules through fear and brutal punishment.


Oh, were you going to bring Iran's proxies into this as well? I totally agree that the IDF, Hezbollah, Al Qassam, and Islamic Jihad are the planet's most active and horrific terrorist organizations in that order. I wouldn't believe any propaganda coming from any of them.


Don't forget "violate conventions by committing hundreds of egregious war crimes daily," "perpetrate genocide for a spike in popularity polls in Israel," "slaughter aid workers who try to help the targets of the terrorism," etc...


... but you are supposed to be commenting on the specific eyewitnesses. What reasons do you have for dismissing their testimony?


We are talking about the credibility of eyewitnesses. Are they credible or not? Are American eyewitnesses credible but Arab eyewitnesses not?


Hamas have never killed or mutilated children. Are you conflating Hamas with Al Qassam, i.e. the militant terrorist organization that attacked Israel? Surely you aren't accusing Gaza's civilian administrators of killing and mutilating children, are you?


Speaking of pictures, would you do me a quick favor and post a few images of Hamas fighters who are not Al Qassam fighters?


Are you not aware that that is an absurd quip that the gullible are told to regurgitate? Have you not thought through how absurd the concept is? There can be no such thing as "human shields" when the IDF are out to kill all Arabs. Any Arab who is trying to survive being waxed by IDF terrorists doesn't stand any better chance of surviving by throwing another Arab in front of himself and hiding behind him. He has only guaranteed that both will be slaughtered. The idea of "human shield" requires the attacking force to respect the "shield" and not attack for fear of harming the shield. The IDF are looking to lay waste to all shields as well as all other Arabs. There can be no such thing as any human shields where the IDF are concerned.


FTFY. I don't disagree. Also, if peaceful, defenseless Arabs from a place like Gaza simply wish to live their lives, Israel would nonetheless flatten that place into a smoking husk, where dead children by the tens of thousands need to fished out of rubble, and American Christians and Jews will all be high-fiving each other in celebration.


So, admit it, be a man and be honest, you're hate for Arabs had consumed you long before Israel began their genocide in Gaza.


Nope. Admitting that you are on the very wrong side of this issue would be too painful for you, hence I don't foresee it ever happening.


Observations are not propaganda. Your denial of observations is the worst kind of dishonesty.


You haven't answered the question. Are eyewitnesses credible? What about Arab eyewitnesses?

I believe you’ve been steeped in bigotry for so long you can’t fathom a worldview without it. You’ll never believe I along with so many others, never once hated any race, religion, skin tone, or peaceful culture. Many fortunate people were raised with a very simple yet powerful rule, only judge a person by their deeds, my parents didn’t poison me with prejudice, so I grew up seeing people with different melanin levels, cultures, religions, and beliefs as interesting but irrelevant when judging a person's credibility, intelligence, sanity, and character.

Bigotry is so obviously absurd when you’re not fed it from the cradle. I’ve never carried hatred for any group, not for a single day. I can spot entrenched bias a mile away, but I'm not alone, it's easy to spot. Bigotry is not rational, so rational reasoning has to take a hit somewhere, you've chosen 'eyewitnesses' so let's talk about them.

I often agree with your point of view, but your take on Gaza reeks of anti-Semitism, and it’s painful to watch you ditch logic for Hamas talking points and of course the “eyewitnesses” like they’re ironclad, on par with what an American thinks of as an eyewitness.

Common sense says good luck finding a man on the street in Gaza that's openly anti-Hamas and would say anything that contradicted the current narrative, I wonder why? There is no such thing as a reliable eyewitness in Gaza.

Then we have to deal with the nutcases like .........fill in the blank with your choice of long-time antisemitic journalists, publications, talking heads, and professors that all believe the ends justifies the means and have no problem stretching or completely fabricating 'facts' that support the Israel is purposefully killing children narrative and other terrorist propaganda.

The world has the video and the words from the anti-Zionist radical Isalmist scumbags like Hamas diretl that proves otherwise, but still there you are. Bigotry is not rational.

I’ve seen plenty of your arguments, sharp, reasoned, grounded. So why the blind spot here? Your obsession with Israel’s supposed evils doesn’t stem from October 7 or any fresh evidence. It comes from a deep-seated hatred of Jews overriding your usual clarity.

Prove me wrong. Tell me you don’t hate anyone, that you’re just weighing the facts. How about we start with what you think is the best example of a credible eyewitness. The person's name and all the information you presumably have that makes them so credible .

 

[ZenMode]

Pivot. There is no such thing as a source for something that is true.

Did this actually make sense in your mind when you wrote it?

Were you going to provide evidence that the Ayatollah loaned out his proxy, Al Qassam, to Gaza's administrators to "take 'em for a spin"? Iran funds Al Qassam at $100 million / year and Hamas never had any money. Are you saying that Iran decided to "lend" Hamas a militant terrorist group out of charity?


You have never provided any evidence for your absurd claims. Show me the documentation of the Ayatollah's agreement with Hamas requiring the return of Al Qassam in good working order by a specified date.


I'm not the one who needs anyone to believe absolute comedy fiction.

Right, many countries coordinate with and fund projects around the world. Russia and Syria were buddy, buddy for awhile. North Korea, I believe, is providing military troops to Russia, so, yes, I'm certain that Iran funds terrorist activities in Muslim majority countries.

Anywho... since you aren't a member of Hamas leadership in Gaza or apart of the government leadership of Iran, which would potentially allow you to have first hand knowledge of your claim, I'm gonna need a source to support your claim....

.....and when you don't provide it, which you won't, then I'll post an "epic fail" gif and laugh to myself.

I'll be waiting.

 

[IBDaMann]

I believe you’ve been steeped in bigotry for so long you can’t fathom a worldview without it.

In what bigotry do you mistakenly believe that I am steeped? Oh wait, you're confusing my observations with my opinions again. I see. Well, I'll let you finish what you were saying.

You’ll never believe I along with so many others, never once hated any race, religion, skin tone, or peaceful culture.

I won't believe it as long as you cheer on the genocide of Arabs because the "chosen people" of your religion tell you to believe such.

Many fortunate people were raised with a very simple yet powerful rule, only judge a person by their deeds,

Yet you negatively judge Arabs and summarily dismiss their eyewitness testimony ... because they are Arabs. At the same time, you absolutely OBEY the Israelites in whatever they tell you to think. I don't see any judging by actions; I see only your judging per Israeli fiat.

For the last 19 months, Israel has been slaughtering innocent Arabs who never attacked Israel, and you fight tooth and nail to justify this genocide by lying to yourself and to others at Israel's behest. Then you lash out at me and blame me for your hatred of Arabs. Smooth!

my parents didn’t poison me with prejudice,

Your religion did.

so I grew up seeing people with different melanin levels, cultures, religions, and beliefs as interesting but irrelevant

... except you grew up fully understanding the Philistines are the "bad guys" in the world, and your job is to be a champion for the Israelites, i.e. for God's chosen people. You think it's perfectly OK to engage in special pleading fallacies that excuse Israel of any and all war crimes that are universally illegal for everyone else on the planet. Your enthusiastic support for a Nazi-style genocide is unconscionable ... quite a tribute to the religion that gave it to you.

Tell me again why Arab eyewitnesses must be summarily dismissed? Tell me again why Israeli terrorists must be universally believed? I'm all ears. Please explain why my willingness to listen to an Arab eyewitness equates to support for terrorism and to hatred for ... for whomever. Please explain why you never call boooooolsch't whenever anyone conflates Al Qassam, Iran's militant terrorist organization formed by Iran to destroy Israel, is conflated with Gaza's public administrators? Oh, that's right, that's Israel's direct disinformation that you must regurgitate.

I get it.

Bigotry is so obviously absurd when you’re not fed it from the cradle.

Bigotry is business-as-usual when one allows other people to do their thinking for him.

I’ve never carried hatred for any group, not for a single day.

Let's talk about Arabs being slaughtered. Why is it OK with you? Why do you blame people OTHER THAN the Israelis who are doing the killing?

I can spot entrenched bias a mile away,

... or at least you think you can, but you can't spot your own.

... you've chosen 'eyewitnesses' so let's talk about them.

Sure. Let's make sure to include the eyewitnesses to the stolen 2020 election.

I often agree with your point of view,

... which is usually just observations, because I base all my "points of view" on observations.

but your take on Gaza reeks of anti-Semitism,

This is where you get to explain how my observations equate to antisemitism on my part.

and it’s painful to watch you ditch logic for Hamas talking points

This is where you get to explain how observations equate to abandoned logic in favor of the talking points of dead people.

and of course the “eyewitnesses” like they’re ironclad,

So explain to me why you don't believe that the 2020 election was stolen.

on par with what an American thinks of as an eyewitness.

Tell me this isn't bigotry right here.

Common sense says good luck finding a man on the street in Gaza that's openly anti-Hamas

Common sense says that your bigotry is not common sense.

and would say anything that contradicted the current narrative,

Why do you believe that there is only one current narrative?

There is no such thing as a reliable eyewitness in Gaza.

... because they are all Arab, right? You made it a point that Israelis in Gaza are trustworthy. Why is that?

Then we have to deal with the nutcases like .........fill in the blank with your choice of long-time antisemitic journalists, publications, talking heads, and professors that all believe the ends justifies the means and have no problem stretching or completely fabricating 'facts' that support the Israel is purposefully killing children narrative and other terrorist propaganda.

That the IDF is the world's most active terrorist organization on the planet, having killed tens of thousands of innocent Arabs who never attacked Israel, simply out of RACIST hatred, and of genocidal mania by the Likud Party, ... is an observation, not propaganda.

Remind me again why the Arab survivors of such attacks, who lost family members or were severely injured themselves, are somehow unreliable as to what happened because they are Arab. I can understand why the deceased are poor eyewitnesses, though.

The world has the video

Newsflash: there is more than one video in the world.
Newsflash: the world has ALL the videos.

Was there a video in particular to which you refer? Could you just post it?

and the words from the anti-Zionist radical Isalmist scumbags like Hamas

Post those videos as well. I'll see if I can dig up some of the many RACIST Israeli videos taunting Arabs (who never attacked Israel) with an imminent 2nd Nakba (ethnic cleansing) and other horrendous videos.

I’ve seen plenty of your arguments,

You can't accurately recount any argument of mine on this topic. All you can do is deny inconvenient observations as somehow being my mere opinions.

Your obsession with Israel’s supposed evils

I don't obsess over any supposed evils. Your contradiction, however, of both denying the genocide of Arabs while simultaneously cheering it on, is what needs to be explained. Actually you have so many things that need to be explained but you only pivot.

It comes from a deep-seated hatred of Jews overriding your usual clarity.

This is where you get to point out where I have spoken about "Jews" in general.

Prove me wrong.

You obviously don't understand how this whole internet thing works. You are the one who has to support your positions; I am not obligated to prove your affirmative assertions false. I can rebut your absurdities if I wish, but I am not required, especially if you can't/won't support them in the first place.

Tell me you don’t hate anyone,

I hate seven specific people.

How about we start with what you think is the best example of a credible eyewitness.

Nope. We have already started with your double standard that you have not adequately explained. Why should Arab eyewitnesses be summarily dismissed yet Zionist terrorists are not to be questioned.

 

[IBDaMann]

Did this actually make sense in your mind when you wrote it?

Are you too stupid for it to make sense?

I'm wearing a blue shirt. Give me a link for that.

Right, many countries coordinate with and fund projects around the world.

Post the published agreement between Iran and Gaza's administrators.

Russia and Syria were buddy, buddy for awhile.

Iran and Gaza's administrators never had any agreement or treaty ... unless you are going to show that one existed.

I'm certain that Iran funds terrorist activities in Muslim majority countries.

I like how you retreat to items that are not in dispute, to make it appear that you are establishing your contended point.

Of course Iran funds terrorism via their proxies. What you are absurdly claiming is that Iran decided to heavily fund Al Qassam but then decided to abdicate calling the shots, opting instead to let some broke public administrators in Gaza decide what Al Qassam should do. This is where you make a strong argument for this being the case, as opposed to expecting people to accept the totally absurd just because you say it is so.

Anywho... since you aren't a member of Hamas leadership in Gaza

... which you can tell because I am not dead ...

or apart of the government leadership of Iran, which would potentially allow you to have first hand knowledge of your claim, I'm gonna need a source to support your claim....

Are you asking me to support common knowledge as your attention-diversion away from the fact that you refuse to support your affirmative claim of the totally absurd?

Since what I am saying is common knowledge, I would point you to Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz who publicly announced having recovered documentation of Iran's funding arrangments for Al Qassam, Iran's proxy, to attack Israel on 7 October 2023. Nobody has any documentation indicating that Gaza's public administrators were even aware of the attack before it happened ... which means you have no reason to be lcaiming that Gaza's public administrators somehow knew of the attack before it happened.

 

[moon]

Nope, totally true, of course.

Have you noticed that you do nothing but delay?

Softly, softly catchee IBdeMonkey. 792.

 

[ZenMode]

Are you too stupid for it to make sense?

I'm wearing a blue shirt. Give me a link for that.


Post the published agreement between Iran and Gaza's administrators.


Iran and Gaza's administrators never had any agreement or treaty ... unless you are going to show that one existed.


I like how you retreat to items that are not in dispute, to make it appear that you are establishing your contended point.

Of course Iran funds terrorism via their proxies. What you are absurdly claiming is that Iran decided to heavily fund Al Qassam but then decided to abdicate calling the shots, opting instead to let some broke public administrators in Gaza decide what Al Qassam should do. This is where you make a strong argument for this being the case, as opposed to expecting people to accept the totally absurd just because you say it is so.


... which you can tell because I am not dead ...


Are you asking me to support common knowledge as your attention-diversion away from the fact that you refuse to support your affirmative claim of the totally absurd?

Since what I am saying is common knowledge, I would point you to Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz who publicly announced having recovered documentation of Iran's funding arrangments for Al Qassam, Iran's proxy, to attack Israel on 7 October 2023. Nobody has any documentation indicating that Gaza's public administrators were even aware of the attack before it happened ... which means you have no reason to be lcaiming that Gaza's public administrators somehow knew of the attack before it happened.

(copy/paste)
Anywho... I'm gonna need a source to support your claim....

.....and when you don't provide it, which you won't, then I'll post an "epic fail" gif and laugh to myself.

Better luck next time!!

 

[moon]

It's not my ass that needs saving. You tried to slip a "The General Assembly overrules the Security Council" in there hoping no one would catch it. Well, I caught it and now you are desperate to save face. You got caught and now you are gibbering incoherently while drooling on your shoe.

You are a totally dishonest coward. You threw away any credibility you might have had and now you are practically begging for a "do over" ... while stupidly trying to blame me for your fuck-up. Yes, I will be reminding you constantly ... starting right now:

You are a totally dishonest coward. You threw away any credibility you might have had and now you are practically begging for a "do over" ... while stupidly trying to blame me for your fuck-up.

Too funny!


Nope, not in this quadrant.


I fully deny it. Proceed with showing me to be a lying asshold.


My reputation is solid. I'm the most ignored member of JPP ... next to Dutch-Dutch.


So your plan is to wait long enough for everyone to hopefully forget about your gaffe.

I'll be reminding the board periodically of your stupid error *and* of your double-down on stupid. You really ought to just go ahead and make your case now.


The really funny thing is that you are broadcasting how you know that you're egregiously mistaken.


Cum-bubble.. We can do this all day.


That which is no secret, and that which is common knowledge, is that the additional forum of discussion cannot overrule the legally binding Security Council resolutions. This leads to the question of how you do not know this, or whether you actually know anything in the first place.


Sure. I deny it some more. I fully acknowledge that you are incorrect. I recognize that you don't know the first thing about the UN. I recognize that you cannot distinguish between a militant terrorist organization serving Iran and Gaza's civilian administrators.

Just in case you missed it ... I deny it some more. I deny it some more. I deny it further still.

Feel free to throw it in my face.

Brazen hussy ^

The General Assembly has a mechanism to override the Security Council. Fact. General knowledge, nothing secret about it.
Your denials are moronic. 802.

 

[Tobytone]

In what bigotry do you mistakenly believe that I am steeped? Oh wait, you're confusing my observations with my opinions again. I see. Well, I'll let you finish what you were saying.


I won't believe it as long as you cheer on the genocide of Arabs because the "chosen people" of your religion tell you to believe such.


Yet you negatively judge Arabs and summarily dismiss their eyewitness testimony ... because they are Arabs. At the same time, you absolutely OBEY the Israelites in whatever they tell you to think. I don't see any judging by actions; I see only your judging per Israeli fiat.

For the last 19 months, Israel has been slaughtering innocent Arabs who never attacked Israel, and you fight tooth and nail to justify this genocide by lying to yourself and to others at Israel's behest. Then you lash out at me and blame me for your hatred of Arabs. Smooth!


Your religion did.


... except you grew up fully understanding the Philistines are the "bad guys" in the world, and your job is to be a champion for the Israelites, i.e. for God's chosen people. You think it's perfectly OK to engage in special pleading fallacies that excuse Israel of any and all war crimes that are universally illegal for everyone else on the planet. Your enthusiastic support for a Nazi-style genocide is unconscionable ... quite a tribute to the religion that gave it to you.

Tell me again why Arab eyewitnesses must be summarily dismissed? Tell me again why Israeli terrorists must be universally believed? I'm all ears. Please explain why my willingness to listen to an Arab eyewitness equates to support for terrorism and to hatred for ... for whomever. Please explain why you never call boooooolsch't whenever anyone conflates Al Qassam, Iran's militant terrorist organization formed by Iran to destroy Israel, is conflated with Gaza's public administrators? Oh, that's right, that's Israel's direct disinformation that you must regurgitate.

I get it.



Bigotry is business-as-usual when one allows other people to do their thinking for him.


Let's talk about Arabs being slaughtered. Why is it OK with you? Why do you blame people OTHER THAN the Israelis who are doing the killing?

... or at least you think you can, but you can't spot your own.


Sure. Let's make sure to include the eyewitnesses to the stolen 2020 election.


... which is usually just observations, because I base all my "points of view" on observations.


This is where you get to explain how my observations equate to antisemitism on my part.


This is where you get to explain how observations equate to abandoned logic in favor of the talking points of dead people.


So explain to me why you don't believe that the 2020 election was stolen.


Tell me this isn't bigotry right here.


Common sense says that your bigotry is not common sense.


Why do you believe that there is only one current narrative?


... because they are all Arab, right? You made it a point that Israelis in Gaza are trustworthy. Why is that?


That the IDF is the world's most active terrorist organization on the planet, having killed tens of thousands of innocent Arabs who never attacked Israel, simply out of RACIST hatred, and of genocidal mania by the Likud Party, ... is an observation, not propaganda.

Remind me again why the Arab survivors of such attacks, who lost family members or were severely injured themselves, are somehow unreliable as to what happened because they are Arab. I can understand why the deceased are poor eyewitnesses, though.


Newsflash: there is more than one video in the world.
Newsflash: the world has ALL the videos.

Was there a video in particular to which you refer? Could you just post it?


Post those videos as well. I'll see if I can dig up some of the many RACIST Israeli videos taunting Arabs (who never attacked Israel) with an imminent 2nd Nakba (ethnic cleansing) and other horrendous videos.


You can't accurately recount any argument of mine on this topic. All you can do is deny inconvenient observations as somehow being my mere opinions.


I don't obsess over any supposed evils. Your contradiction, however, of both denying the genocide of Arabs while simultaneously cheering it on, is what needs to be explained. Actually you have so many things that need to be explained but you only pivot.


This is where you get to point out where I have spoken about "Jews" in general.


You obviously don't understand how this whole internet thing works. You are the one who has to support your positions; I am not obligated to prove your affirmative assertions false. I can rebut your absurdities if I wish, but I am not required, especially if you can't/won't support them in the first place.


I hate seven specific people.


Nope. We have already started with your double standard that you have not adequately explained. Why should Arab eyewitnesses be summarily dismissed yet Zionist terrorists are not to be questioned.

Your question comes from where, exactly? Have I ever said Arab eyewitnesses should be dismissed outright? Are you twisting my point about Gaza residents? Do you genuinely believe Hamas’s iron grip on Gaza allows anyone to speak freely? Are you so naive as to think witnesses there aren’t painfully aware of what they can’t say without risking their lives?

I’ve been giving you the slimmest benefit of the doubt, thinking maybe you’re just swept up in propaganda, a bleeding heart swayed by a few Al Jazeera sob stories. But that’s clearly not it.

And yes, I know how this online game works, it works exactly how I want it to. I choose if I want to play or not, if I want to answer or not, if I want to read other people's post or not, how I want to ask question, and most important what information I want to pursue. Not to sound cold but I don’t care about your agenda, your methods, or your rules for this back and forth. Other than follow a few forum rules. we all get to play by our own rules and get what we want from the forum. Just being honest, it's all about what I want from this forum, and I got it.

I wanted to know if you’re one of a fairly unique group of people who thinks through societal issues, digs into the facts, applies logic to generally find the correct answers, yet throws that methodology out the window for bigotry. From where I’m standing, that’s exactly what you’ve done, unless I’ve somehow missed your denial of anti-Semitism.

Most anti-Semites I’ve encountered don’t bother denying it, they’re convinced history and facts back them up. Is that why you haven’t just said, “I’m not anti-Semitic”? Instead, you create a Red Herring in the form of changing my skepticism of eyewitness credibility in Gaza with me supposedly saying that you can believe any Arabian's eyewitness account, a libtard drone tactic by the way.

Let’s be crystal clear: if you’re not, say it. If you’ve got evidence of some credible eyewitness you've been using to justify your stance, bring it, but outside of that, I've got my answer. It's one that somehow still surprises me.

If I'm wrong my sincere apologies, if I'm right, I truly hope you wake up some day. Don't be offended if I don't reply to the inevitable breakdown of every sentence, it's not because I'm not a fan, it just that I've answered the question I was asking.

 

[IBDaMann]

Your question comes from where, exactly?

Believe it or not, it comes from me.

Have I ever said Arab eyewitnesses should be dismissed outright?

So now you want to join the intellectual cowards of the board and plead the "I never said what I spent an entire post saying."

I’ve been giving you the slimmest benefit of the doubt,

Nope. You have been flat out denying observations. I can't help you.

And yes, I know how this online game works

Oh, I see that clearly.

I choose if I want to play or not, if I want to answer or not,

... if you want to be honest or not ... no, that's not how it works.

Not to sound cold but I don’t care about your agenda,

You are the one with an agenda. I am simply making observations.

I wanted to know if you’re one of a fairly unique group of people who thinks through societal issues, digs into the facts, applies logic to generally find the correct answers, yet throws that methodology out the window for bigotry. From where I’m standing, that’s exactly what you’ve done, unless I’ve somehow missed your denial of anti-Semitism.

Yep, you're a moron.

Trivia question: Why have you not accurately stated any of my positions?
Answer: You have no idea what they are.

Trivia question: Why can you not support your claims of bigotry on my part?
Answer: You have no examples.

Trivia question: Why are you so obviously bigoted against Arabs?
Answer: You fight tooth and nail to keep the genocide going, attacking those like me who wish to see the Zionist terrorists you champion stop killing children by the thousands.

Most anti-Semites I’ve encountered don’t bother denying it,

All the Team Israel bigots are in lock-step with their HATRED. They make the same special pleading fallacy, they lie at every opportunity to keep the genocide of Arabs at full steam, and they attack those who want the Zionist terrorists to stop ethnically cleansing the Arabs who never did anything to them.

The funny thing is that you seem to think that I am going to allow you to do my thinking for me, i.e. to simply regurgitate your total dishonesty and HATRED for Arabs. Let me know how that works out for you.

they’re convinced history and facts back them up.

Hey, tell Into the Night that you don't know what a "fact" is. He'll help you out.

Is that why you haven’t just said, “I’m not anti-Semitic”?

I know what word antisemitic means. You do not. You think it means what the Israelis tell you to think it means. I don't OBEY Israelis.

Instead, you create a Red Herring in the form of changing my skepticism of eyewitness credibility in Gaza with me supposedly saying that you can believe any Arabian's eyewitness account, a libtard drone tactic by the way.

Well, that certainly was a loser of a run-on sentence. Either you don't read English for comprehension or you are deliberately pivoting the hell away from the topic of your double standard. I don't think that horse should be beaten any further, but if you disagree and need to revisit how you have one standard for "God's chosen people" and a totally different standard for the Arabs you HATE, let me know and we can do a deep dive on it.

Your position: Israeli Terrorists should always be believed because they are God's chosen people; Arabs should never be believed.

Let’s be crystal clear:

You want to be crystal clear for once? OK. I've got to see this.

If you’ve got evidence of some credible eyewitness you've been using to justify your stance,

That was one very clear pivot. I have to give credit where it is due. The topic is not my stance on anything. The topic is your double standard on eyewitnesses based on whether or not they are Arab.

If I'm wrong my sincere apologies,

You have been deliberately wrong on this issue since you joined the discussion. You are not honest. You HATE Arabs. You are thrilled by their genocide. You attack those who have a distaste for Zionist terrorists killing Arabs who never attacked Israel.

 

[moon]

It's generally understood that the mechanism exists for the UN General Assembly to override the Security Council.
This safety feature in the fabric of the UN was introduced by the USA.
Truth over trolls.
820.

 

[moon]

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You tried to slip a "The General Assembly overrules the Security Council" in there hoping no one would catch it.

I fully deny it. Proceed with showing me to be a lying asshold.


Sure. I deny it some more.

The General Assembly has a mechanism, agreed by resolution, which can override the UN Security Council. It was introduced by the US of AIPAC in 1950 and agreed upon.
When the Security Council fucks up- the General Assembly can override. it. What sort of a dolt would deny it ?
Oh....right. Mr. Contrarian No2.

Haw, haw.............................................haw.

 

[Earl]

Don't start a war if you can't finish the war.