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Just saw the article from which this thread draws its name. I just skimmed it, but it seems on point with other things I've heard. Quoting from the introduction to the article below:
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The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.​

Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by Trump supporters and gullible liberals, that Trump will dismantle the Deep State. Trump is part of, and has long been part of, the repugnant cabal of politicians – Democrat and Republican – billionaires and celebrities who look at us, and often underage girls and boys, as commodities to exploit for profit or pleasure.

The list of those who were in Epstein’s orbit is a who’s who of the rich and famous. They include not only Trump, but Bill Clinton, who allegedly took a trip to Thailand with Epstein, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, former Secretary of the Treasury and former president of Harvard University Larry Summers, cognitive psychologist and author Stephen Pinker, Alan Dershowitz, billionaire and Victoria’s Secret CEO Leslie Wexner, the former Barclays banker Jes Staley, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, the magician David Copperfield, actor Kevin Spacey, former CIA director Bill Burns, real estate mogul Mort Zuckerman, former Maine senator George Mitchell and disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, who reveled in Epstein’s perpetual Bacchanalia.

They also include law firms and high-priced attorneys, federal and state prosecutors, private investigators, personal assistants, publicists, servants and drivers. They include the numerous procurers and pimps, including Epstein’s girlfriend and daughter of Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell. They include the media and politicians who ruthlessly discredited and silenced the victims, and strong armed anyone, including a handful of intrepid reporters, seeking to expose Epstein’s crimes and circle of accomplices.

There is a lot that remains hidden. But there are some things we know. Epstein installed hidden cameras in his opulent residences and on his private Caribbean island, Little St. James, to capture his high-powered friends engaging in sexual romps and abuse of teenage and underage girls and boys. The recordings were blackmail gold. Were they part of an intelligence operation on behalf of the Israeli Mossad? Or were they used to ensure that Epstein had a steady source of investors who funneled him millions of dollars to avoid being outed? Or were they used for both? He shuttled underage girls between New York and Palm Beach on his private jet the Lolita Express, which was allegedly outfitted with a bed for group sex. His coterie of famous friends, including Clinton and Trump, are recorded as traveling on the jet numerous times on released flight logs, although many other flight logs have disappeared.

Epstein’s videos are in the vaults of the FBI, along with detailed evidence that would rip back the veil on the sexual proclivities and callousness of the powerful. I doubt there is a client list, as Attorney General Pam Bondi claims. There is also no single Epstein file. The investigative material amassed on Epstein fills many, many boxes, which would bury Bondi’s desk and probably, if collected in one room, dominate most of the space in her office.

Did Epstein commit suicide, as the official autopsy report claims, by hanging himself in his jail cell on August 10, 2019 at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City? Or was he murdered? Since the cameras recording activity in his cell the night were not functional, we do not know. Michael Baden, a forensic pathologist hired by Epstein's brother, who served as the chief medical examiner for New York City and who was present at the autopsy, said he believes Epstein's autopsy suggests homicide.

The Epstein case is important because it implodes the fiction of deep divisions between Democrats, who had no more interest in releasing the Epstein files than Trump, and the Republicans. They belong to the same club. It exposes how the courts and law enforcement agencies collude to shield powerful figures who engage in crimes. It lays bare the depravity of our exhibitionist ruling class, accountable to no one, free to violate, plunder, loot and prey on the weak and the vulnerable.
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Full article:

Another article on the recent blowup in the MAGA movement regarding Epstein, this one talks about how FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino is considering resigning over what he feels is a coverup and Kash Patel, the FBI Director himself, is considering the same...
 
If Trump was on the blackmail list this information would have been released long ago in order to destroy Trump.

Chris is pretty good.....I listen to him a lot......but the chances that FBI/CIA still have anything near zero....it was parked somewhere safe.
 
Just saw the article from which this thread draws its name. I just skimmed it, but it seems on point with other things I've heard. Quoting from the introduction to the article below:
**

The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.​

Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by Trump supporters and gullible liberals, that Trump will dismantle the Deep State. Trump is part of, and has long been part of, the repugnant cabal of politicians – Democrat and Republican – billionaires and celebrities who look at us, and often underage girls and boys, as commodities to exploit for profit or pleasure.

The list of those who were in Epstein’s orbit is a who’s who of the rich and famous. They include not only Trump, but Bill Clinton, who allegedly took a trip to Thailand with Epstein, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, former Secretary of the Treasury and former president of Harvard University Larry Summers, cognitive psychologist and author Stephen Pinker, Alan Dershowitz, billionaire and Victoria’s Secret CEO Leslie Wexner, the former Barclays banker Jes Staley, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, the magician David Copperfield, actor Kevin Spacey, former CIA director Bill Burns, real estate mogul Mort Zuckerman, former Maine senator George Mitchell and disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, who reveled in Epstein’s perpetual Bacchanalia.

They also include law firms and high-priced attorneys, federal and state prosecutors, private investigators, personal assistants, publicists, servants and drivers. They include the numerous procurers and pimps, including Epstein’s girlfriend and daughter of Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell. They include the media and politicians who ruthlessly discredited and silenced the victims, and strong armed anyone, including a handful of intrepid reporters, seeking to expose Epstein’s crimes and circle of accomplices.

There is a lot that remains hidden. But there are some things we know. Epstein installed hidden cameras in his opulent residences and on his private Caribbean island, Little St. James, to capture his high-powered friends engaging in sexual romps and abuse of teenage and underage girls and boys. The recordings were blackmail gold. Were they part of an intelligence operation on behalf of the Israeli Mossad? Or were they used to ensure that Epstein had a steady source of investors who funneled him millions of dollars to avoid being outed? Or were they used for both? He shuttled underage girls between New York and Palm Beach on his private jet the Lolita Express, which was allegedly outfitted with a bed for group sex. His coterie of famous friends, including Clinton and Trump, are recorded as traveling on the jet numerous times on released flight logs, although many other flight logs have disappeared.

Epstein’s videos are in the vaults of the FBI, along with detailed evidence that would rip back the veil on the sexual proclivities and callousness of the powerful. I doubt there is a client list, as Attorney General Pam Bondi claims. There is also no single Epstein file. The investigative material amassed on Epstein fills many, many boxes, which would bury Bondi’s desk and probably, if collected in one room, dominate most of the space in her office.

Did Epstein commit suicide, as the official autopsy report claims, by hanging himself in his jail cell on August 10, 2019 at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City? Or was he murdered? Since the cameras recording activity in his cell the night were not functional, we do not know. Michael Baden, a forensic pathologist hired by Epstein's brother, who served as the chief medical examiner for New York City and who was present at the autopsy, said he believes Epstein's autopsy suggests homicide.

The Epstein case is important because it implodes the fiction of deep divisions between Democrats, who had no more interest in releasing the Epstein files than Trump, and the Republicans. They belong to the same club. It exposes how the courts and law enforcement agencies collude to shield powerful figures who engage in crimes. It lays bare the depravity of our exhibitionist ruling class, accountable to no one, free to violate, plunder, loot and prey on the weak and the vulnerable.
**

Full article:

Another article on the recent blowup in the MAGA movement regarding Epstein, this one talks about how FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino is considering resigning over what he feels is a coverup and Kash Patel, the FBI Director himself, is considering the same...
Facts:

1. trump mumbled weasel words when asked before the election whether he'd even release the files.


2. When asked about Epstein's enabler/pimp/child groomer Gislaine Maxwell, trump said, "I wish her well" I also believe the rumors that trump was considering pardoning her in return for her silence.


This woman traficked children and trump "wishes her well"? Fuck!

3. The 1 min of the recording missing the night Epstein "committed suicide". I don't believe it - too cooincidental!
 
Facts:

1. trump mumbled weasel words when asked before the election whether he'd even release the files.


2. When asked about Epstein's enabler/pimp/child groomer Gislaine Maxwell, trump said, "I wish her well" I also believe the rumors that trump was considering pardoning her in return for her silence.


This woman traficked children and trump "wishes her well"? Fuck!

3. The 1 min of the recording missing the night Epstein "committed suicide". I don't believe it - too cooincidental!
Trumps words about Maxwell are likely related to claims that she was the primary runner of the operation for MOSSAD....and he knows it.
 
Trumps words about Maxwell are likely related to claims that she was the primary runner of the operation for MOSSAD....and he knows it.
She's a child sex-traficker. She's responsible for the abuse, and ptsd that girls, now women will be suffering for the entire lives - those that don't commit suicide. You do NOT wish that kind of person well under any circumstances.
 
If Trump was on the blackmail list this information would have been released long ago in order to destroy Trump.

I don't know about that. For all Trump's talk about ending the war in Ukraine, or at least the U.S. part in it, he never did. And he's certainly supported Israel's wars. Why would the deep state destroy a guy who's essentially doing their bidding?
 
Trumps words about Maxwell are likely related to claims that she was the primary runner of the operation for MOSSAD....and he knows it.

Could you elaborate on what you mean here? I think we can agree that Trump was been working quite closely with the Israeli government, even if he did briefly get mad at them when they seemed to want to restart the war with Iran.
 
I don't know about that. For all Trump's talk about ending the war in Ukraine, or at least the U.S. part in it, he never did. And he's certainly supported Israel's wars. Why would the deep state destroy a guy who's essentially doing their bidding?
They tried to kill him at Butler.....Hell Ha they would have destroyed him if they had good dirt.
 
Just saw the article from which this thread draws its name. I just skimmed it, but it seems on point with other things I've heard. Quoting from the introduction to the article below:
**

The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.​

Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by Trump supporters and gullible liberals, that Trump will dismantle the Deep State. Trump is part of, and has long been part of, the repugnant cabal of politicians – Democrat and Republican – billionaires and celebrities who look at us, and often underage girls and boys, as commodities to exploit for profit or pleasure.

The list of those who were in Epstein’s orbit is a who’s who of the rich and famous. They include not only Trump, but Bill Clinton, who allegedly took a trip to Thailand with Epstein, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, former Secretary of the Treasury and former president of Harvard University Larry Summers, cognitive psychologist and author Stephen Pinker, Alan Dershowitz, billionaire and Victoria’s Secret CEO Leslie Wexner, the former Barclays banker Jes Staley, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, the magician David Copperfield, actor Kevin Spacey, former CIA director Bill Burns, real estate mogul Mort Zuckerman, former Maine senator George Mitchell and disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, who reveled in Epstein’s perpetual Bacchanalia.

They also include law firms and high-priced attorneys, federal and state prosecutors, private investigators, personal assistants, publicists, servants and drivers. They include the numerous procurers and pimps, including Epstein’s girlfriend and daughter of Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell. They include the media and politicians who ruthlessly discredited and silenced the victims, and strong armed anyone, including a handful of intrepid reporters, seeking to expose Epstein’s crimes and circle of accomplices.

There is a lot that remains hidden. But there are some things we know. Epstein installed hidden cameras in his opulent residences and on his private Caribbean island, Little St. James, to capture his high-powered friends engaging in sexual romps and abuse of teenage and underage girls and boys. The recordings were blackmail gold. Were they part of an intelligence operation on behalf of the Israeli Mossad? Or were they used to ensure that Epstein had a steady source of investors who funneled him millions of dollars to avoid being outed? Or were they used for both? He shuttled underage girls between New York and Palm Beach on his private jet the Lolita Express, which was allegedly outfitted with a bed for group sex. His coterie of famous friends, including Clinton and Trump, are recorded as traveling on the jet numerous times on released flight logs, although many other flight logs have disappeared.

Epstein’s videos are in the vaults of the FBI, along with detailed evidence that would rip back the veil on the sexual proclivities and callousness of the powerful. I doubt there is a client list, as Attorney General Pam Bondi claims. There is also no single Epstein file. The investigative material amassed on Epstein fills many, many boxes, which would bury Bondi’s desk and probably, if collected in one room, dominate most of the space in her office.

Did Epstein commit suicide, as the official autopsy report claims, by hanging himself in his jail cell on August 10, 2019 at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City? Or was he murdered? Since the cameras recording activity in his cell the night were not functional, we do not know. Michael Baden, a forensic pathologist hired by Epstein's brother, who served as the chief medical examiner for New York City and who was present at the autopsy, said he believes Epstein's autopsy suggests homicide.

The Epstein case is important because it implodes the fiction of deep divisions between Democrats, who had no more interest in releasing the Epstein files than Trump, and the Republicans. They belong to the same club. It exposes how the courts and law enforcement agencies collude to shield powerful figures who engage in crimes. It lays bare the depravity of our exhibitionist ruling class, accountable to no one, free to violate, plunder, loot and prey on the weak and the vulnerable.
**

Full article:

Another article on the recent blowup in the MAGA movement regarding Epstein, this one talks about how FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino is considering resigning over what he feels is a coverup and Kash Patel, the FBI Director himself, is considering the same...
yes.

and a deal has been struck.

comey and brennan obama might go down to save everyone else.

thanks negro.
 
If Trump was on the blackmail list this information would have been released long ago in order to destroy Trump.

Chris is pretty good.....I listen to him a lot......but the chances that FBI/CIA still have anything near zero....it was parked somewhere safe.
So since Trump admitted on Truth Social that these Epstein Files do exist but he said they are a fabrication by Obama and Hillary, et al, why would Trump not release them and expose Obama and Hillary?

Do you think he wants to protect them?
 
Just finished reading an article from substacker Simplicius on the Epstein files, thought it was quite good. The article can be seen here, though the text beyond the introduction is behind a paywall:

I decided to get a 7 day free trial to see what was beyond said paywall. Here's the conclusion to his article:
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You can’t deny that much of Trump’s “revolutionary” change appears too-little-too-late, or entirely contrived. For instance, it’s been vaunted that Trump’s tariffs have already earned something like $200B in profits. The problem is, the American people and corporations mostly paid those ‘profits’ to the captured government, which proceeds to use that money on foreign geopolitical entanglements that bring no benefit whatsoever back home.

To wit: the tariffs earned $200B, yet Trump’s fiscal budget increased the national debt by several times more than that:

US Debt.png

What difference do these tariff profits, then, make? Are they being invested into American infrastructure? No.

In short, the previous post’s forewarning smacks of truth: Trump’s administration may very well be a much needed great awakening, but not in the way it was intended. It may instead open America’s eyes to the fact that what people thought was “radical”, is actually not nearly “radical enough”. And this may pave the way for real future change, the kind that actually pierces through the goalposts and Overton windows of the system’s status quo in ways that even Trump failed to do:

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She's a child sex-traficker. She's responsible for the abuse, and ptsd that girls, now women will be suffering for the entire lives - those that don't commit suicide. You do NOT wish that kind of person well under any circumstances.
Trump and Epstein are responsible. She was serving them. She is in jail. That is being held responsible. Trump is not, yet.
 
Just finished reading an article from substacker Simplicius on the Epstein files, thought it was quite good. The article can be seen here, though the text beyond the introduction is behind a paywall:

I decided to get a 7 day free trial to see what was beyond said paywall. Here's the conclusion to his article:
**
You can’t deny that much of Trump’s “revolutionary” change appears too-little-too-late, or entirely contrived. For instance, it’s been vaunted that Trump’s tariffs have already earned something like $200B in profits. The problem is, the American people and corporations mostly paid those ‘profits’ to the captured government, which proceeds to use that money on foreign geopolitical entanglements that bring no benefit whatsoever back home.

To wit: the tariffs earned $200B, yet Trump’s fiscal budget increased the national debt by several times more than that:

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What difference do these tariff profits, then, make? Are they being invested into American infrastructure? No.

In short, the previous post’s forewarning smacks of truth: Trump’s administration may very well be a much needed great awakening, but not in the way it was intended. It may instead open America’s eyes to the fact that what people thought was “radical”, is actually not nearly “radical enough”. And this may pave the way for real future change, the kind that actually pierces through the goalposts and Overton windows of the system’s status quo in ways that even Trump failed to do:

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tariffs are still smart.

you globalists are trying to poison the well of good trade policy with pedophilia allegations.


MAGA is about tariffs, not trump.

the tariffs are what's important.
 
Exactly. Maxwell is in jail for the very stuff Epstein, and I now believe trump was doing to poor young girls.
I don't know about young girls in the plural, unless you count walking into the changing room of certain young girls, but there is -one- case that I strongly suspect that Trump is truly guilty of:
 
tariffs are still smart.

Tariffs -can- be smart. I don't think the way the general way Trump has been using them fits the bill.

you globalists are trying to poison the well of good trade policy with pedophilia allegations.

Chris Hedges, the author whose article this thread is based on, is not exactly a globalist. Neither am I. There are certainly serious allegations in regards to Trump. I myself am not sure he's guilty of anything in regards to young girls other than perhaps walking in on young girls changing, but I strongly -suspect- he is in fact guilty of doing some terrible things to one young girl in particular:
 
Tariffs -can- be smart. I don't think the way the general way Trump has been using them fits the bill.



Chris Hedges, the author whose article this thread is based on, is not exactly a globalist. Neither am I. There are certainly serious allegations in regards to Trump. I myself am not sure he's guilty of anything in regards to young girls other than perhaps walking in on young girls changing, but I strongly -suspect- he is in fact guilty of doing some terrible things to one young girl in particular:
you globlalists are not fair and open minded about tariffs so fuck your and your globalist idiot opinion.

tariffs are more important than trump.
 
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