Again, says the people who are literally trying to take advantage of what they say would be "terrible" if their opponent did so.
Why is TACO paying the price to keep Epstein docs secret?
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You did not care about this at all until suddenly you did.
Those people are not the ones hiding information. They are demanding it be released. As it should be. Maybe they are using it for political power, but they are at least on the side of disclosure.
I have always wanted it disclosed. Glad it came to a head, hope it happens.
TACO is the one who used it as a political tool and now backs down. I wonder why?
I understand why Obama did not open it up, open prosecutions... Biden should have, and I suspect he was shamefully protecting pedophiles.
Now TACO is backtracking on his promise to release the files, and it seems even more shameful as he is digging his heals in after pressure.
Heels... but yeah. I have not seen him act against his own interest in the past, so I do not believe he is now. I don't know what he is intending, but I do not think it is what the left wants it to be.
I will say he has been fighting harder than I thought he would to get the court records released.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
How so? Because I don’t care if the files are opened one way or another.
How is he fighting to get court records released? Any legal scholar, plenty of whom work for him, would have told him he would lose that effort.
Is he fighting windmills for political points?
He has the power release everything behind those court records, not the actual testimony of the DOJ investigators, but everything they based their testimony on would be legal for him to release.
yes
You understand that the entire Grand Jury case, documents and testimony are sealed. The documents and memories of those who testified is not sealed. All the supporting data would not be sealed, except by the DOJ who has the power to release them if they chose.
What? They have asked for grand jury files, which they know are protected and contain very little information. That is not fighting hard.
If DonOld was really fighting hard to release the files and to clear his name, he would release the files and have a bipartisan committee review the sensitive material in which the underaged girls appear which is child porn and then issue a report.
I think everyone knows the Prosecution only discloses to a Grand Jury narrowly tailored information on their target. The standard for issuing an indictment is very low, they do not disclose the meat of the case at that point. Never.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
So you know who is in there? You are certain? You know that everyone in there is a pedophile?
Why didn’t you care during Biden? Why do you only care now? Were you defending pedophiles then?
I have defended nothing.
I have no problem with the list if one exists being released
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
You claim to know who is in there and that everyone is a pedophile so apparently it isn’t a secret
Too bad you didn’t care that much when Biden was President. Guess you were defending pedophiles back then? That is your thesis right? If you don’t demand the release it means you defend pedophiles? Well you didn’t demand the release for years so…….
Althea
Althea told me...
I'll say it one more time, and try to remember. I understand that when the nation is one big reality show, it's easy to get caught up in the bright shiny objects. That's what reality t.v. is.
The world knows that trump is a rapist. That has never been a secret. The yoyo teasing with the Epstein crap is a distraction. Just as the Iran bombing was a distraction. Just as the tariff nonsense is a distraction. Just as the golf outings are all distractions.
trump is in office for one reason. The monetize the position. As we chase him down every rabbit hole, nobody is paying attention to the fact that trump is still selling classified information. He's selling crypto in exchange for domestic/foreign policy. He's raping the taxpayer every time he travels for golf outings. He's selling 'merch' to wealthy corporate interests. He used to do it via the trump Hotel DC, but he gave up the lease when he was kicked out of office.
He's selling citizenship to anyone who has $500k. No matter if you are a terrorist or simply someone who has plenty of money but no time to go through the immigration process.
The Epstein bullshit is already common knowledge. I'd rather focus on the fact that the emoluments clause was never written to address POTUS, which is problematic.
Althea
Althea told me...
They're all bad. Dershowitz, Clinton, (although Bill was a whore, not a pedo)Prince Andrew, and who knows who else?
trump was already sued by two or three of the girls he raped, (one recently committed suicide) but all charges were dropped after their lives were threatened. This is all old news. Half of the country is proud that their POTUS is a rapist.
Many of the files in trump's custody appear to have been destroyed, so cannot be released.
In general, files do not prove someone innocent, which is why we have innocent until proven guilty. It is too high of a barrier to force trump to prove he was not guilty. The best he can do is preserve plausible deniability; not be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. So if he is able to prove he never had sex with a minor, or knowingly helped Epstein to have sex with a minor... Then I know that proof is a lie. It is basically impossible to prove a negative over an entire life.
Can you prove you never murdered someone? You might be able to prove you did not murder a particular person, where you have a good alibi for the time of the murder, but can you prove you have good alibis for every murder that has ever happened, whether known or not known? Of course not. If you claimed you could, I would know you are a liar, which would make me suspect you of murder.
Clinton had a connection to Epstein, but so far it has not been proven to be a bad connection. Even if it was, the last time Clinton was in office was a quarter of a century ago. There is no reason to believe the rest of the Democrats have any connection to Epstein. I just do not see this as effecting Obama, Biden, AOC, Newsom, etc.
trump had a semi-fake modeling company that delivered underage girls to Epstein. trump socialized with Epstein for no charitable reason. trump helped Epstein to buy properties to hide his molesting of girls on. trump and Epstein through Calendar Parties(plural) to ply underage girls with alcohol and drugs. trump was actually accused in court depositions of raping an underage girl with Epstein.
trump might be able to keep plausible deniability, and stay out of prison, but that is a long distance from being really innocent, and being qualified to be president.
No files will clear trump.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
OP is bullshit. This entire thing is ass.
The world would be better off if it never happened, and I'm not even bullshittin'.
The world would be better off if it never happened, and I'm not even bullshittin'.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
So you have links to posts from you saying so in 2021? I don't think you do, shitbag.
Fuck off, you fuckin' Turdus Maximus. You ain't worth kicking in the ass.
That's bad.
Trump's your president, and you are a turd. Next!
Here comes the diversion again. You are well programmed.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
Look, you shrill retard. STFU with your retarded Marxist bullshit if you care to live for the next 10 years, ok?
You fucking dumbass.
People are tired of you and those like you. Your best bet is not to push your luck at all, bitch, because many are tired of that.
My 1st thought is bust you right in the mouth.
I'm not even kidding. Bust you right in the mouth. See how much shit you talk after that.
Commie cocksucking pigfucker! Seriously, you are a Commie piece of shit I would crack right in the face all day long.
And that's exactly what you need. A bust right in your dishonest ass mouth, punk.
I am just the one to give you exactly you need.
At least I think so. And I bet I bust your fuckin' sorry ass jaw, too, bitch!
You're a fucking traitor. If you don't think I'd break your jaw or worse, you're sadly mistaken, because you are a traitor.
You piece of shit. What was the last good thing you did, turdboi?
Give me 1 reason to not smash your face into the back of your skull.
If I was going to do that.
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