Virginia Giuffre's tell all memoir to be published on Oct 21st, detailing her time with Epstein and his "many friends"

IBDaMann said:
Please notice that I had everything in quotes, because I was paraphrasing her position, i.e. what she wrote. If I am to be warned for pointing out her demand that kiddie porn be released to the public, then I hope she was treated appropriately for having demanded that child-porn be released to the public.



It was her position. She wrote it. We were discussing it. I mentioned that the file was full of child porn. I posted Bondi's video explaining such. It was all part of the discussion.


How about this, you attach Pam Bondi's video clip to the 12B rule and warn everyone that demanding the "Epstein file" be "released to the public" is a blatant call for kiddie porn to be released to the public, and that you won't stand for it.

Otherwise, you have a 12B rule that is now being used to protect people who are demanding kiddie porn be released to the public, by punishing those who point out the posters who are demanding that kiddie porn be released to the public. I'm guessing that wasn't the original intent of the 12B rule.


I did that, and pointed out that she was therefore calling for child porn to be released to the public. Her response was "Fuck You" and reitereated her demand for the kidie-porn's release. Obviously she's a sick-o, and you didn't say anything ... but you did warn me when I paraphrased her own stated position.


So how did she somehow not violate the rule? If she did not violate the rule, then I can't possibly have violated the rule by simply having stated (paraphrased) her position accurately. After all, it's her position that I paraphrased and nothing more. I didn't add anything.
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You called her sick-o. That's personal. She wasn't asking for child porn to be released.
 
ziggy said:
The hoax is Democrats insisting that Trump is involved with zero evidence to back it up.
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trump was involved. That is absolutely beyond question. trump may have "lost" all of Giuffre's employment records, but we know she started out on this journey as a 14 year old bikini wearing towel girl employed by trump to work in a men's changing room at mar-a-lardo.

trump's defense is that while he is involved, it was just extreme incompetence, not criminal involvement. That is called plausible deniabiliy. And it is a real legal defense. It works especially well when added to "losing" all the records.

What is not a real defense is this claim she was never there.
 
Walt said:
trump was involved. That is absolutely beyond question. trump may have "lost" all of Giuffre's employment records, but we know she started out on this journey as a 14 year old bikini wearing towel girl employed by trump to work in a men's changing room at mar-a-lardo.

trump's defense is that while he is involved, it was just extreme incompetence, not criminal involvement. That is called plausible deniabiliy. And it is a real legal defense. It works especially well when added to "losing" all the records.

What is not a real defense is this claim she was never there.
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She was 16, and nobody claims she did anything illegal while working for Trump....Trump needs no defense.
 
AProudLefty said:
Not a 12b violation, dummy.
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Nor is calling someone a sick-o, moron.

AProudLefty said:
That's personal too.
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Let me know when you start to get it.

AProudLefty said:
Nope she didn't.
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Of course she did; you simply have no sense of logic, but I am repeating myself ... again.

AProudLefty said:
She demanded that files be released,
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... after being informed that all of those files were hundreds of child porn videos downloaded by Epstein. Ask someone to help you with the logic.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
She was 16, and nobody claims she did anything illegal while working for Trump....Trump needs no defense.
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Giuffre was 14 when started working for trump. She was 16 when she was trafficked to Maxwell. A child being trafficked is illegal.

When trump found out that Maxwell and Epstein were trafficking children, why didn't he try to track down the children he gave them?
 
IBDaMann said:
Nor is calling someone a sick-o, moron.


Let me know when you start to get it.


Of course she did; you simply have no sense of logic, but I am repeating myself ... again.


... after being informed that all of those files were hundreds of child porn videos downloaded by Epstein. Ask someone to help you with the logic.
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Calling her sick-o is suggesting something. Learn logic.

Like she believes the narrative? Child porn is something they throw around in hope the gullible will believe it.

Release the names of those responsible. Stop with the smokescreen.
 
Walt said:
Giuffre was 14 when started working for trump. She was 16 when she was trafficked to Maxwell. A child being trafficked is illegal.

When trump found out that Maxwell and Epstein were trafficking children, why didn't he try to track down the children he gave them?
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Bull Shit

"Roberts testified that she'd been working only two to three weeks at the spa when Maxwell approached."

"What happened that first day in 2000 that Giuffre (known as Virginia Roberts then) met Epstein after Ghislaine Maxwell spotted her reading a book about massage therapy at Mar-a-Lago?"

www.yahoo.com

The day Virginia Giuffre met Jeffrey Epstein after working at Mar-a-Lago. What happened

Virginia (then known as Roberts) worked at Mar-a-Lago with her father in 2000. Here's what he had to say about her visiting Epstein the first time.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
Damocles said:
I think we need more of a release of his health files.
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trump is slopping makeup onto the backs of his hands. he claims it is because he is bruising his hand shaking so many hands, but have you ever seen him shake a bunch of hands? And why would it be both hands, one usually would only shake the right hand? If he were getting such horrible bruises, why would he continue shaking hands?

I see a definite coverup of regular IV's, like once or more times a day. I do not claim to know why trump needs so many IV's, but it is something big, either a real or imagined(by him), that is causing him to get these.

I guess his health records have been "lost" too.
 
AProudLefty said:
Calling her sick-o is suggesting something. Learn logic.

Like she believes the narrative? Child porn is something they throw around in hope the gullible will believe it.

Release the names of those responsible. Stop with the smokescreen.
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He is trying so hard to bait someone to commit a 12B against him. Not going to work.
 
Giuffre said Maxwell hired her as a masseuse for Epstein, but the couple effectively made her a sexual servant, pressuring her into gratifying not only Epstein but his friends and associates. Giuffre said she was flown around the world for assignations with men including Prince Andrew while she was 17 and 18.

The men denied it and assailed Giuffre’s credibility. She acknowledged changing some key details of her account, including the age at which she first met Epstein.

www.pbs.org

Virginia Giuffre, plaintiff in Epstein and Prince Andrew sex trafficking case, dies at 41

The American-born Giuffre, who lived in Australia for years, became an advocate for sex trafficking survivors after emerging as a central figure in Epstein's prolonged downfall.
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The reason no doubt that the publisher demanded intense vetting of this book.
 
Walt said:
The alt right has gone from claiming that Giuffre will expose the Democrats, to saying nobody cares who she exposes... It is almost like they realize she has never met a major Democrat, though she had met the most important Republican.
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Neither do 80%+ of the population. The Epstein files are another J6 dead end off a cliff issue for the Democrats.
 
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