LGBTQ rights in Russia

IBDaMann said:
Scott said:
Perhaps Into the Night thinks that being Lesbian, Gay, Bi or Trans -is- sexual deviancy?
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I would remain focused on the public indecency that harms our children and society. This is what is at issue in Russia.
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I haven't heard any stories of public indecency from the LGTB community in Russia. That's certainly not the issues I found concerning regarding LGTB rights in Russia. I mentioned what I -did- find concerning there in the opening post.
 
Yakuda said:
Scott said:
Can we agree that they deserved the same civil rights enjoyed by whites? That's what the civil rights movement was about, by the way. Quoting from Wikipedia's page on the matter:
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The civil rights movement was a social movement in the United States from 1954 to 1968 which aimed to abolish legalized racial segregation, discrimination, and disenfranchisement in the country, which most commonly affected African Americans. The movement had origins in the Reconstruction era in the late 19th century, and modern roots in the 1940s After years of nonviolent protests and civil disobedience campaigns, the civil rights movement achieved many of its legislative goals in the 1960s, during which it secured new protections in federal law for the civil rights of all Americans.
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Source:
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Civil rights movement - Wikipedia

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No they deserved the same rights.
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As @Diesel alluded to in post #241, that's what I was trying to convey.
 
Into the Night said:
Scott said:
I'm going to stop you right there, because I now see that we have a larger problem than whether or not "eternal victimhood" exists. The larger problem in question in our conversation above is what you refer to as "they" here, and the "LGBTQIAXXX..." elsewhere. Put simply, it doesn't exist. The closest thing to it would be the LGBTQ community, but as I mentioned elsewhere, the only thing that unites all members is the fact that they're -in- said community. You seem to be claiming that they all share this "eternal victimhood" you speak of, but I've yet to see any evidence that this is the case.
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That's EXACTLY what they display. Victimhood.
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Do you have any evidence for your assertion?
 
gfm7175 said:
Scott said:
I'm going to stop you right there, because I now see that we have a larger problem than whether or not "eternal victimhood" exists. The larger problem in question in our conversation above is what you refer to as "they" here, and the "LGBTQIAXXX..." elsewhere. Put simply, it doesn't exist. The closest thing to it would be the LGBTQ community [snip]
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@IBDaMann I have, just now, added a couple more entries into my Lispy Leftist List. One is "gay community (lesbian community, etc)" and the other is "LGBT community (LGBTQ community, LGBTQ+ community, etc).

@Scott While IBDaMann seems to be insistent upon differentiating between movements and people (for good reason, imo), you seem to be insistent upon denying the existence of any "LGBTQ movement" and wish to solely focus upon people.
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LGBTQ movement is -almost- correct. It's just that there's more than 1 of them:
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LGBTQ movements - Wikipedia

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Quoting from Wikipedia's introduction of the subject:
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Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) movements are social movements that advocate for the inclusion, recognition, and rights of LGBTQ people and other gender and sexual minorities.

While there is no overarching organization representing all LGBTQ people, numerous advocacy groups, grassroots networks, and community-based organizations work to advance related causes. The earliest known LGBTQ rights organization was the Scientific-Humanitarian Committee, founded in Berlin in 1897.

Common goals of LGBTQ movements is equal rights for LGBTQ people. Specific goals include the decriminalization of homosexuality, legal recognition of same-sex relationships, protections against discrimination, and access to gender-affirming healthcare. Some branches of these movements also emphasize cultural visibility, community-building, and liberation from societal systems seen as oppressive, such as heteronormativity and cisnormativity.

Modern LGBTQ movements encompass a wide range of strategies, including political lobbying, street marches and protests, mutual aid, academic research, and artistic expression. These movements are internally diverse, with ongoing debates over tactics, identity, inclusion, and the intersections of gender, sexuality, race, and class.
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Scott said:
Such easy language. Just say that someone is in denial of something and presto, no need to actually provide evidence that whatever you're claiming actually exists.
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First, allow me to remind you of your denial of LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+.

Second, I posted a shitload of videos for you, showing just how absurd your denial truly is.

Third, what "evidence" are you pretending to demand?
 
Scott said:
No, as I've been saying for quite a while now, I've seen no evidence that your LGBTQIAXXX... exists. I provided you with a link to LGBT organizations that actually exist in the hope that we could actually ground our conversation in -real- organizations rather than non existent ones.
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No, as I've been saying for quite a while now, I'm not discussing any organizations or people, only the LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+ movement, yet you keep trying to derail the conversation you are deathly afraid to have.
 
Scott said:
This post of yours looks a lot like your post #262.
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My intent was to highlight the absurdity of your declaration that I have provided no evidence that LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+ exists.

As I have said, I'm easy. You can deny whatever you wish and no one can force you to discuss anything that frightens the bejeebees out of you.

Let me know if anything changes.
 
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