Hmmm.

[Dutch Uncle]

This is pretty much the same thing that guy that just got fired form MSDNC said. Blaming the victim in an act of violence is shameful. This is the same kind of crap as "she shouldn't have worn that short skirt in THAT part of town" nonsense. No. Folks should not resort to violence because of something that was said. He spent time being respectful, listening to what they said, and making sure they had time and the audience let them speak. He clearly stated that if we want to end the violence and divisiveness the best way to do it is for those who disagree to have a dialogue rather than a fight.

I get that you do not like his opinions, but assuming he preached hate and violence simply because you didn't like his opinion just shows you didn't know what he was about.

Most intelligent, educated and sane people know the difference between business decisions and political ones. IMO, the problem is too many American voters who are whiny man-children, but I could be wrong. Notice how children are quick to violence but adults not so much.

Charlie preached hate and division. He got hate and division. Now Trump wants more.

This won't end until dozens, if not hundreds, of Americans are dead. It's what Trump wants and what his MAGAt Congress will hand him.

Only after that will a majority of Americans rise up and say "ENOUGH!"

 

[cawacko]

Agree. I haven't seen anyone justifying this young man's murder. I am merely pointing out that promoting voilence and hate can come back to bite you in the ass. Remember January 6, 2021? Or did you excuse that as a "bunch of rowdy tourists"?

I'm not sure what Jan 6th has to do with this. That seems like a different discussion.

Kirk was definitely provocative, and that no doubt made him a target. Just to me, saying free speech comes with consequences after someone was murdered sounds like saying it was justified.

 

[Truth Detector]

I wonder what Charlie Kirk’s thinks about reasonable gun controls now?

What a stupid asinine statement. Only morons on the left like you think this is about gun control.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I'm not sure what Jan 6th has to do with this. That seems like a different discussion.

Kirk was definitely provocative, and that no doubt made him a target. Just to me, saying free speech comes with consequences after someone was murdered sounds like saying it was justified.

Once an administration advocates political violence, it'd be stupid of them to not expect blowback.

By pardoning the 1/6 terrorists and traitors, much less hiring them as ICE agents, can you see how this invites blowback? Even by a few nutjobs?

 

[Truth Detector]

I know it’s ironic but I find the men who mentored him down this path culpable in his death.

What is ironic is how uneducated and stupid you are to think that this is about Kirk being culpable for his own death. You define the term moron.

Yea, great idea. They knew they were taking this naive kid into harms way.

I have no idea what you're saying here. I doubt you have a clue period.

 

[Truth Detector]

Conservatives used to be big into "personal responsibility." He's responsible for his words and their effects. Whether or not he really believed that tripe he spewed doesn't matter. He spewed it to make money and a name for himself. Some people seem to struggle with the concept that free speech comes with consequences.

Another leftist moron who thinks the victim is to blame.

 

[Truth Detector]

“It’s worth it to have some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational,” Kirk said in 2023.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/live...ead-fbi-releases-images-of-person-of-interest

Another brainless leftist halfwit who thinks it's the victim's fault.

 

[Truth Detector]

Do you feel better now?

He should feel a lot dumber now.

 

[Phantasmal]

This is pretty much the same thing that guy that just got fired form MSDNC said. Blaming the victim in an act of violence is shameful. This is the same kind of crap as "she shouldn't have worn that short skirt in THAT part of town" nonsense. No. Folks should not resort to violence because of something that was said. He spent time being respectful, listening to what they said, and making sure they had time and the audience let them speak. He clearly stated that if we want to end the violence and divisiveness the best way to do it is for those who disagree to have a dialogue rather than a fight.

I get that you do not like his opinions, but assuming he preached hate and violence simply because you didn't like his opinion just shows you didn't know what he was about.

He encouraged violence against the LBGTQ community, apparently you are not that familiar with his positions, either.

 

[Truth Detector]

Thanks Damo. Obviously I am being ironic and rhetorical

No, you're being brainless and stupid.

but I don’t find anything funny about what happened to Kirk at all. I hope the culprit is found, given a fair trial and hanged.

Yet you make asinine statements about his tragic demise. Hypocrite or lie much?

I’m also being rather apolitical.

No, you sound like the typical brain dead asshole leftist that are all too common these days.

I’ve watched several interviews of the political figures who were young Mr. Kirk’s mentors and I was appalled that they are clueless that they set Kirk up on his path to political extremism

Only an uneducated, brainless lying dumbass can claim that Kirk was an extremist.

What part of his views did you find extreme? The truth? His facts? His Christianity? Moron.

as a media polemicist and fire brand.

You might want to look words up before you misuse them in sentences halfwit.

They should be reflecting on the personal accountability for encouraging him to take excessive risks

So, taking excessive risks is now expressing one's view in public? Are you a Fascist? A Nazi? A Putin?

and their mentoring and encouragement played no small role in putting him in a high risk position.

See above brainless dumbass.

I honestly don’t care what form of political extremism is involved as it doesn’t really matter which side you’re on.

Calling Kirk's debating in public political extremism is the definition of moronic. The extremists were the ones trying to shut him down and the moron that killed him.

I wish you had a brain. Really I do.

Maybe with wiser council Kirk would still be alive.

What counsel would that be you brainless halfwit? To not express NORMAL views and FACTS? God you leftists are dumb fucks.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

He should feel a lot dumber now.

It's nice the home is letting you use the day room computer so late in the day. Is it a reward low grade?

 

[Truth Detector]

I do not believe he is I am "thinking" at all.

FIFY brainless wonder dunce.

 

[Damocles]

He encouraged violence against the LBGTQ community, apparently you are not that familiar with his positions, either.

He did not. I have watched many videos after his death, never once did he encourage violence at all, let alone towards LGBTQ+ folks. Even Stephen King backed out of his "stone them" remark, understanding that he was mocking someone else who was cherry picking verses.

While I didn't agree with him on some of his stances in these regards, disagreement was never because of a suggestion of violence. It was mostly that I do not believe in his religion and do not believe that gay people are "sinning". He never suggested they should be hurt. He understood that folks had a right to believe differently in that regard.

 

[Truth Detector]

Maybe he was doing exactly what he wanted, he was a 31 year old adult male with all his faculties and a drive to present a message and encourage free speech and dialog. While some of what he said was disagreeable to my personal philosophy, the courage it took to understand the risk, hire security, and do it anyway is in some ways admirable.

Was it a sacrifice he was willing to make? I am unsure, but he certainly said as much regularly.

This is exactly what is wrong today. So speaking freely and civil debate is risky and could lead to an assassination. How fucking dumb have we become as a society/

Wise words from Orwell:

“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”

 

[Guno צְבִי]

I don't think many realize what a force he was...They should ask their grandchildren

Something you don't and will never have

 

[Truth Detector]

And walk down the same oblivious ideological path of self destruction. Hey, fine if that’s what you want in your life then go for it Ben.

Claiming that a person that was assassinated by an unhinged leftist loon is self-destruction is the definition of moronic.

I don't think you know how stupid you sound. Stupid people don't know they are stupid.

 

[Truth Detector]

Well if that’s the path he chose so be it but when other lives you are responsible for are negatively impacted when you come up on the short end of the stick I find that a selfish and irresponsible decision to make. That’s why I decided to leave field work and went into corporate management in my field (mostly of the technical and compliance management variety) even though I enjoyed field work more than what I’m currently doing by far. My decision to walk away from that was because in my years of field work I have witnessed incidents where four men were killed doing their job and I had five colleagues, who I didn’t work with, who died on the job. Field work in HAZMAT is obviously a high risk occupation and is a more hazardous occupation than police work by OSHA records.

I just felt it was the responsible thing to do.

Brainless. Speech should not be a life-threatening thing you fucking halfwit.

 

[Truth Detector]

I honestly don’t know about their gun controls.

Look it up you lazy fuck.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

He encouraged violence against the LBGTQ community, apparently you are not that familiar with his positions, either.

Yea shall reap what yea shall sow. He reaped his own hatred adn bigotry. I think political violence will happen several more times before the Midterms. Mostly because the Orange Messiah wants it. Sad.

Galatians 6:7-9
7 Do not be deceived. God will not be made a fool. For a person will reap what he sows,
8 because the person who sows to his own flesh will reap corruption from the flesh, but the one who sows to the Spirit will reap eternal life from the Spirit.
9 So we must not grow weary in doing good, for in due time we will reap, if we do not give up.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

No, it's not. But when you make a living promoting division, hatred, distrust and fear, you shoujld expect to get blow back. It's possible to have political discussion w/o promoting violence and hate. Of course, that doesn't sell very well, does it?

charlie kirk did not do anything you said........you should reevaluate all you've thought you've known