Florida plans to become first state to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates

Go learn what 'shill' means.

The word has multiple definitions. One you're familiar with:
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One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
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One you're not familiar with:
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A person paid to endorse a product favourably, while pretending to be impartial.
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The article I linked to was using it in the above manner. For anyone in the audience who hasn't seen the article I'm referencing, it's here:

The definitions above can be found here:
 
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I'm not interested in the work of Big Pharma shills like the American Academy of Pediatrics:

I see that their latest project is to try to shut down religious exemptions for taking vaccines:
They have no say.

They have a fair amount of influence. From the article I linked to:
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‘AAP and many of its members benefit from high vaccine uptake’

The AAP is a professional organization representing 67,000 pediatricians in the U.S. However, it is also a lobbying organization that has spent between $748,000 and $1,180,000 annually advocating for its members over the previous six years, according to the government website Open Secrets.

The organization’s funding for that work comes, in part, from annual contributions from corporate sponsors, including vaccine manufacturers Moderna, Merck, Sanofi, Abbott Laboratories, GSK and CSL Seqirus.

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Source:
 
Science is a set... (That means a collection of elements. Each element is a theory.)
of falsifiable theories. (that means each theory MUST have at least one attempt at the null hypothesis, in other words, a way to test if the theory is false. That test must be definable, available, specific, and produce a specific result. That generally means a mathematical or logical result. In other words, that result must come from a closed functional system.

As long as a theory can withstand such tests, it is automatically a theory of science. It will remain so until it is falsified.

It is not possible to prove any theory True. It IS possible to prove a theory of science False.

If a theory of science is falsified, it is utterly destroyed. It is no longer a theory or even an argument.

Sounds reasonable.
 
The diagram you showed does not depict the scientific method. It shows the "science creation process" in a quaint, elementary school manner. See below.


You are conflating the scientific method with the general science creation process.

The creation of science involves someone having an epiphany that realizes some CAUSE->EFFECT in how nature works. There are no rules for how one is allowed to have such an epiphany, but when teaching children, we tend to dumb it down into easily understandable chunks, like ...

1. Start with making your observations
2. Take measurements and gather your data
3. Analyze your data
4. Ask a question, or two
5. Assess your personal carbon footprint and ask whether this endeavor is worth destroying the global climate
6. Develop an hypothesis
7. Develop a test for that hypothesis
8. Analyze your results
9. Adjust your hypothesis as needed -> return to step 7 if needed
10. Demand that conservatives be imprisoned for the climate variability impact their Trump-driven capitalistic human activity is doing to the Dominican coral reefs
11. Share a fruit cup with a socially-distanced friend.

The bottom line is that whenever you are discussing the above, you are trying to explain to children what many scientists often do, but none of the above is prescriptive. All that matters is that the resulting model be falsifiable and predict nature.


ENTER THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD

Now, here is the key disctinction. Once a science model has been developed (i.e. a falsifiable model that predicts nature) and not a moment before, the scientific method is applied. The scientific method does not create science, it tries to falsify it, i.e. show that it is false. In other words, the scientific method takes a falsifiable model and tries to show it to be false. This is why you cannot apply the scientific method to, say Christianity, for example. Christianity is a religion and is therefore not falsifiable. The scientific method cannot do anything to show it to be false.

More formally, the scientific method is a systematic battery of tests that tries break a model. As I alluded to above, the scientific method requires a falsfiable model as input which is first reviewed for internal consistency of logic (e.g. your argument that you do not support contract killings would fail the internal consistency check) and if a model fails that test, it is already false and it cannot proceed; the model must be corrected or discarded.

Assuming a model passes the internal consistency check of the scientific method, the model's external consistency check is performed, i.e. the model is checked against the rest of science to see if there are any contradictions. If there are then something has to be fixed, but not necessarily the model being examined at the moment.

Then the big moment arrives in which the model itself is tested for its veracity. The model will be expressed unambiguously in some formal notation. The model itself, expressed unambiguously, becomes its own hypothesis to be tested, and that hypothesis has a name, i.e. "the null hypothesis", called that because it is not derived from any other hypothesis. An experiment is devised to test the null hypothesis and the results are published. If the scientific method doesn't show the null hypothesis to be false, then the model gets to remain as science for the time being.

So, in review, the "science creation process" doesn't really exist because there aren't any rules dictating how science is allowed to come into the world; we simply teach children a story to prepare them to some extent. The scientific method, however, is applied after a science model is created, systematically attempting to break that model.


If you are saying that a study can inform an application of the scientific method, then yes it can. Then again, everything written on JPP could potentially inform an application of the scientific method ... but ThatOwlCoward's posts ... not so much.


Nope. Either you have science or you don't. There is no category for "counts for something".

Many words -.- I think a lot of what you say is reasonable when not applied to specific issues (abortions) or people (ThatOwlWoman).
 
You say a lot of other things that will get us nowhere fast. At this point, I've decided to help you out. What you should have done instead of coming up with theories as to why I disagree with you, was to have simply asked -why- I don't believe abortions are a subset of contract killings. The key is in the word killings. There's a reason that those who are pro choice call abortions the termination of pregnancies instead of the killing of fetuses. It's all about the relative importance of the human fetus vs. the human mother. There's evidence that chickens are smarter than toddlers:
In contract killings, the customer putting out the hit on a mark always assigns greater importance to his own convenience than he does to the life of the mark, and the contracted killer agrees.

When it comes to abortions, this clearly isn't just about the mother and the person performing the abortion. It's also about society as a whole. A large chunk of people in North America believe that the mother's wishes are more important than the fetus' life. I know there is also a large chunk of people who don't believe this, which is why the U.S. has various states that allow abortions and various states that don't.

No one is suggesting that anyone should have the right to kill a living human [snip]
That's what an abortion is when there's a heartbeat, which there is around the three-week point.

You snipped off the second part of my sentence, which was rather important. The complete sentence for anyone in the audience:
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No one is suggesting that anyone should have the right to kill a living human -after- it is born, but it is sobering to think that even a little after humans are born, they are not exactly geniuses in the world of animals.
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There's evidence that chickens are smarter than toddlers:

No one is suggesting that anyone should have the right to kill a living human -after- it is born, but it is sobering to think that even a little after humans are born, they are not exactly geniuses in the world of animals.

Yet most of us are not averse to eating chicken.
Most of us are averse to eating human.

Ofcourse, we are humans, so it stands to reason. No one here is advocating allowing human flesh to be eaten, though I think people who are starving should be able to eat dead human flesh if there's nothing else (I'm thinking of the story documented in the film "Alive"). What a lot of people -do- believe, however, is that if a mother doesn't want to carry a pregnancy to term, she should be allowed to terminate said pregnancy.
 
Your credibility in regards to deciphering who is and isn't a sock is rather tarnished, considering you accused -me- of having socks here. I've never had a sock here, or in any other online forum. IBDaMann and Into the Night seem to get along fairly well, but getting along with someone is definitely not the same thing as being the same person. They also do have some minor differences of opinion from time to time. I haven't interacted as much with gfm, but he seems like an alright guy from my rather vague recollections of him. From what little I remember of Uncensored2008, he seems to be a tad too abrasive for me to communicate with much.
Then why waste your time with me, Scott?

If I thought I was wasting my time with you, I wouldn't respond to your posts. You are so much more then your views on who has and who doesn't have socks.
 
Improving under RFK Jr.'s leadership, but clearly still a ways to go.

I took a look at the articles you referenced from these organizations, they didn't impress me either.
Interesting.

No surprise. :)

Yeah. It -may- be that it's not worth trying to see if we can find any type of agreement in regards to vaccines. But you're certainly free to ask me any more questions on the subject if you like.
 
If I thought I was wasting my time with you, I wouldn't respond to your posts. You are so much more then your views on who has and who doesn't have socks.
Sorry, dude, not a conspiracy theorist. I just roll with the science. Good luck with your anti-vax campaign. :thup:
 
I believe women should be allowed to choose whether or not they want to remove a fetus from their body.
You believe that women should have the right to hire a killer to kill the living human inside them and to dispose of the body.
The Mafia believes that they have the right to hire a killer to kill a living human and to dispose of the body.

Without playing word games, how am I in error?
 
I don't know about that, but it looks like we agree that personal definitions for words can cause a lot of problems.
Nope. The problems come from not agreeing on definitions and from standard dishonesty, e.g. EVASION.

I don't see the difference.
Convenient.

If you ask me "What does Chilango mean"? I don't get to define any words, nor does anyone. Does that mean I can't tell you how that word is used?

Of course my answer will be how the word is used. I'd tell you that different groups use the word differently, with some using it to refer to people from DF, whereas others use the word to refer to people who migrated from the interior of the country to DF.

Was that so difficult? There were no definitions in there anywhere. That's how dictionaries operate.
 
Anywa, I figure if I make the mistake as a native English speaker that's read a lot of books and written a fair amount, and that sites meant to help English teachers don't cover, it's probably not that big a deal.
Did you just basically say that you can teach English to others, but if you make an error, it is, by definition, not big enough of a deal for you to learn and to improve such that you never make that mistake again?

Is that what I just read?
 
I don't know about it being "marxist",
Sure you do. I just told you.

and I'm sure that -some- contributors can still alter things
Nope. You are sure that nobody can alter any wiki that is locked down by Wikipedia.

, but I definitely think that the wrong people are in charge there.
Those would be Marxists.


Again, I don't see this "marxist" thing,
... and we're back to your convenient habit again. You make this a frequent occurrence.

but people need starting points. Wikipedia offers them.
Wikipedia is a source of political indoctrination of which you agree. It pushes all sorts of supremacy ideologies; I'm certain you eat all of that up like lions eating a gazelle.

Wikipedia certainly has its flaws
Better wording: Wikipedia is awash in errors. Wikipedia is a nonauthoritative source that should be avoided by everyone.

, but at least it always lists sources for its material.
Unfortunately, it lists nonauthoritative sources for those as well.
 
When it comes to abortions, this clearly isn't just about the mother and the person performing the abortion. It's also about society as a whole.
Too funny! You specifically omitted the living human being killed without his consent, without any legal representation, without so much as a day in court.

When it comes to the killing of living humans who have not committed any crime and who have not expressed any desire to die, people who are not entirely evil focus on the living humans being killed, not on ignoring them.

A large chunk of people in North America believe that the mother's wishes are more important than the fetus' life
In a constitution republic that guarantees individual rights and the civil liberties of the minority, there is no democratic vote. the US Constitution guarantees the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as being endowed by our Creator. That connot be stripped by any vote. When Charlie Kirk's killer is ultimately captured, it won't matter that a majority of Americans will want him executed; there won't be any vote on that matter outside of any jury.

Can we take this opportunity to get you explain why you believe that anyone's life should be able to be taken by a mere democratic vote?
 
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