Sunday Bloody Sunday...Victims were innocent.

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LONDONDERRY, Northern Ireland -- Relatives of 13 Catholic demonstrators shot to death by British troops on Northern Ireland's Bloody Sunday cried tears of joy Tuesday as an epic fact-finding probe ruled that their loved ones were innocent and the soldiers entirely to blame for the 1972 slaughter.

The investigation took 12 years and nearly 200 million pounds ($290 million), but the victims' families and the British, Irish and U.S. governments welcomed the findings as priceless to heal one of the gaping wounds left from Northern Ireland's four-decade conflict that left 3,700 dead.

Thousands of residents of Londonderry - a predominantly Catholic city long synonymous with Britain's major mass killing from the Northern Ireland conflict - gathered outside the city hall to watch the verdict come in, followed by a lengthy apology from Prime Minister David Cameron in London that moved many locals long distrustful of British leaders.

The probe found that soldiers opened fire without justification at unarmed, fleeing civilians and lied about it for decades, refuting an initial British investigation that branded the demonstrators as Irish Republican Army bombers and gunmen.

Cameron, who was just 5 years old when the attack occurred, said it was "both unjustified and unjustifiable."

"I couldn't believe it, I was so overjoyed," said Kay Duddy, clutching the handkerchief used to swab blood from her 17-year-old brother's body that day. Jackie Duddy, the first of the 13 killed, was shot in the back.


"Never in my wildest dreams would I ever envisage a British prime minister would stand up in Parliament and tell the truth of what happened on Bloody Sunday," Duddy said.

"David Cameron told the world and its mother that Jackie Duddy and the rest of the deceased and injured were innocent people. They were totally exonerated today," she said.

One by one, relatives of the 13 dead and 15 wounded went to a podium, huge black-and-white pictures of their dead or wounded relative displayed on a massive television screen. Each declared their relief that the demonstrators were found innocent and the elite soldiers of the Parachute Regiment solely to blame.

"Thirty-eight years ago a story went around the world ... that there was gunmen and bombers on our streets, and they were shot and killed. Today that lie has been uncovered," said Kate Nash, whose 19-year-old brother William was shot fatally once through the chest.

"Unjustified and unjustifiable. Those are the words we've been waiting to hear since January the 30th of 1972," said Tony Doherty, whose father, Patrick, was fatally shot as he crawled away from gunfire. The fact-finders rejected soldiers' claims that Doherty had been carrying a gun by digging up photos of Doherty seconds before he was hit and showing he was unarmed.

"The victims of Bloody Sunday have been vindicated, and the soldiers of the Parachute Regiment have been disgraced. Their medals of honor have to be removed!" Doherty declared to cheers.

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For 4 decades the British government has maligned the victims, the soldiers have lied and the world was told that IRA bombers and terrorists were killed on that Sunday. All of the soldiers should be tried and imprisoned.
 
Brits used to be some violent ass kickers, now they can't even win at kickball vs our dodgeball team.
 
Fuck the Brits.

Ohhh, yes!

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I am really curious as to what our resident brits think of this.

This Brit thinks it's something that has been known by all but the blindest of loyalists for some considerable time. The British government should have apologised a long time ago and, to be fair, if this thing hadn't taken 12 years to report it would have come perhaps a decade sooner. Hopefully this provides the families of the dead some degree of peace.

What happens next i don't know. If prosecutions occur there will be complaints that those who were killed and murdered by the IRA have been released and/or no longer face justice, potentially leading to some horrendous battle of victimhood. I'd like to see justice served but i'm not sure if prosecution is going to be in the long term interests of peace or Northern Ireland.
 
This Brit thinks it's something that has been known by all but the blindest of loyalists for some considerable time. The British government should have apologised a long time ago and, to be fair, if this thing hadn't taken 12 years to report it would have come perhaps a decade sooner. Hopefully this provides the families of the dead some degree of peace.

What happens next i don't know. If prosecutions occur there will be complaints that those who were killed and murdered by the IRA have been released and/or no longer face justice, potentially leading to some horrendous battle of victimhood. I'd like to see justice served but i'm not sure if prosecution is going to be in the long term interests of peace or Northern Ireland.
No, don't be silly, retribution is what got ya'll into this position to begin with. Don't go down that road. What they need to do in Northern Ireland is what they did in South Africa and Argentina, you need to create a commission on reconciliation. If you both just go an eye for an eye you'll both just end up blind.
 
No, don't be silly, retribution is what got ya'll into this position to begin with. Don't go down that road. What they need to do in Northern Ireland is what they did in South Africa and Argentina, you need to create a commission on reconciliation. If you both just go an eye for an eye you'll both just end up blind.

Exactly, Mott. There's been far too much vengeance in previous years. Everybody has had to live with decisions that have been taken to advance the peace process but which are distasteful to say the least. The decision not to prosecute may well be regarded as another one.

There was talk of establishing such a committee but nothing seems to have gotten off the ground yet. With both UK and Irish governments experiencing economic problems it has fallen down the list of priorities but if the people of Northern Ireland made a serious push for it they'd likely get it now.
 
Exactly, Mott. There's been far too much vengeance in previous years. Everybody has had to live with decisions that have been taken to advance the peace process but which are distasteful to say the least. The decision not to prosecute may well be regarded as another one.

There was talk of establishing such a committee but nothing seems to have gotten off the ground yet. With both UK and Irish governments experiencing economic problems it has fallen down the list of priorities but if the people of Northern Ireland made a serious push for it they'd likely get it now.
My problem with reconciliation is is ALWAYS benefits the oppressor. They get to sit down, come clean about their crimes, listen to their victims, or the surviving family members of the victims and then NOTHING happens. Oppresive governments and militaries should be tried in international court and spend so time in a cell reflecting on their crimes.
 
Isn't this like saying, "New Study Shows that People Breathe for Oxygen! Carbon Dioxide is the result!"
 
My problem with reconciliation is is ALWAYS benefits the oppressor. They get to sit down, come clean about their crimes, listen to their victims, or the surviving family members of the victims and then NOTHING happens. Oppresive governments and militaries should be tried in international court and spend so time in a cell reflecting on their crimes.

If you want to dig up Edward Heath and put him on trial be my guest.
 
If you want to dig up Edward Heath and put him on trial be my guest.

The Saville inquiry spent 12 years and over £200,000,000 to produce 5000 pages at £40,000 per page. They also spent £67, 000,000 on computers alone, was it money well spent?

Martin McGuiness, who is now the second minister in the NI government was found to have had and probably used a machine gun, something that he has always vehemently denied. You might ask yourself why he was allowed to refuse to divulge which members of the IRA were present in the Bogside on that day, yet the soldiers were not afforded the same privilege. Indeed several of them had their identities exposed by the likes of Michael Mansfield QC who enriched himself enormously from the inquiry. He was the same man who also found time to feed Mohamed Al-Fayed fantasies during the Princess Diana inquiry.

What seems to have been lost in the fog of war is what precisely was the reason for the march? It was about the highly controversial practice of internment, something which, by the way, was first used by Éamon de Valera in the 1950s to round up the so called official IRA. Americans especially should wonder why they supported extraordinary rendition after 9/11 and explain why that was any different to internment?

If there is a truth and conciliation process in Northern Ireland then I would want McGuiness and Adams to explain what happened to all the people who disappeared and currently lie in various bogs and remote graves throughout NI, they know where they are but have always refused to divulge the details. There were many atrocities in the provinces during those years and to single out one is perverse and totally politically driven by Blair and Co as a price for Sinn Féin/IRA to sign up to peace process.
 
The Saville inquiry spent 12 years and over £200,000,000 to produce 5000 pages at £40,000 per page. They also spent £67, 000,000 on computers alone, was it money well spent?

Martin McGuiness, who is now the second minister in the NI government was found to have had and probably used a machine gun, something that he has always vehemently denied. You might ask yourself why he was allowed to refuse to divulge which members of the IRA were present in the Bogside on that day, yet the soldiers were not afforded the same privilege. Indeed several of them had their identities exposed by the likes of Michael Mansfield QC who enriched himself enormously from the inquiry. He was the same man who also found time to feed Mohamed Al-Fayed fantasies during the Princess Diana inquiry.

What seems to have been lost in the fog of war is what precisely was the reason for the march? It was about the highly controversial practice of internment, something which, by the way, was first used by Éamon de Valera in the 1950s to round up the so called official IRA. Americans especially should wonder why they supported extraordinary rendition after 9/11 and explain why that was any different to internment?

If there is a truth and conciliation process in Northern Ireland then I would want McGuiness and Adams to explain what happened to all the people who disappeared and currently lie in various bogs and remote graves throughout NI, they know where they are but have always refused to divulge the details. There were many atrocities in the provinces during those years and to single out one is perverse and totally politically driven by Blair and Co as a price for Sinn Féin/IRA to sign up to peace process.

I knew you wouldn't like this.
 
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