What I want to be done about illegal immigration is simple

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Is that so?

Walk-in / same-day inventory: Usually 300–800 beds are still open by 4 p.m. on any given day (per Martha's Vineyard lodging dashboards used by the Chamber of Commerce).



Governor DeSantis did not make any such promise.



Is that so?
Did you think the fifty immigrants who were dumped in the afternoon who didn’t even know where they were were jump on the phone and start calling looking for reservations

Yes he did, was one of the carrots to get people to go

Yes
 
Did you think the fifty immigrants who were dumped in the afternoon who didn’t even know where they were were jump on the phone and start calling looking for reservations

Is that what I posited? 50 people without reservations is nothing in a place with a tourist economy. I noticed that none of the migrant-loving virtue signallers offered to let anyone stay in their guest bedrooms, AFAIK. Obama's compound has six of 'em.

Yes he did, was one of the carrots to get people to go

Prove it. Naturally, I'll understand if you can't.


Prove it. As usual ... you know the rest.
 
Is that what I posited? 50 people without reservations is nothing in a place with a tourist economy. I noticed that none of the migrant-loving virtue signallers offered to let anyone stay in their guest bedrooms, AFAIK. Obama's compound has six of 'em.



Prove it. Naturally, I'll understand if you can't.



Prove it. As usual ... you know the rest.
Obviously you’ve never been to Martha’s Vineyard, it’s not Florida, you don’t go there unless you have reservations long ahead of time, and why is it so difficult for you to understand these people were dumped there in the afternoon, no one knew they were coming, a I said, it was a publicity stunt

“The 50 Venezuelans were sent to Martha’s Vineyard from San Antonio, Texas, and had been promised work and housing opportunities (https://apnews.com/article/migrants...a-desantis-c593c1aa83155d7b935dad67b2716c0b)”

Just did

Got anything else I can educate you on
 
Obviously you’ve never been to Martha’s Vineyard, it’s not Florida, you don’t go there unless you have reservations long ahead of time, and why is it so difficult for you to understand these people were dumped there in the afternoon, no one knew they were coming

The occupancy rates say otherwise. Plenty of empty rooms on the island for 50 people without reservations.

it was a publicity stunt

Opinion.

“The 50 Venezuelans were sent to Martha’s Vineyard from San Antonio, Texas, and had been promised work and housing opportunities (https://apnews.com/article/migrants...a-desantis-c593c1aa83155d7b935dad67b2716c0b)”

Just did


That's not proof. Show me a direct quote.


Got anything else I can educate you on


Anything else?
 
The occupancy rates say otherwise. Plenty of empty rooms on the island for 50 people without reservations.



Opinion.




That's not proof. Show me a direct quote.





Anything else?
As I said, you ever been there, did you expect the immigrants to run to the phone booth and start calling boat owners renting cabins? With little time available Mass put them up on a church till the Guard could move them to a military base off the island were services were available. DeSantis abandoned them, didn’t notify anyone they were coming, just dumped them

Total publicity stunt, does the State of Florida often pay to rent a private plane, go to Texas, recruit immigrants promising housing and jobs, and then literally dump them in on an island with nothing nor contacting officials there to prepare for them? 100% publicity stunt

“show me the quote,” funny, like Alex Jones saying Sandy Hook was a hoax because there wasn’t any video

Apparently everything
 
Obviously you’ve never been to Martha’s Vineyard, it’s not Florida, you don’t go there unless you have reservations long ahead of time, and why is it so difficult for you to understand these people were dumped there in the afternoon, no one knew they were coming, a I said, it was a publicity stunt

“The 50 Venezuelans were sent to Martha’s Vineyard from San Antonio, Texas, and had been promised work and housing opportunities (https://apnews.com/article/migrants...a-desantis-c593c1aa83155d7b935dad67b2716c0b)”

Just did

Got anything else I can educate you on
Yes. It was a publicity stunt to reveal the traitorous nature of Biden/Obama/Kamala.
 
Yes. It was a publicity stunt to reveal the traitorous nature of Biden/Obama/Kamala.

To be precise, if I may, it, and Governor Abbott's similar action, was to expose the inherent hypocrisy of the Democrats, and their brilliant manipulation of the left is still paying dividends.
 
You're easily pleased, apparently. I simply try to separate opinions from facts.



I cannot say. I never watched the "Brady Bunch".
Diogenes, I just finished posting a reply to one of your posts on Islamophobia.

My post is long, but if you read it, you will have a very quick means of proving that Islam is a false religion. All you need to do is a little checking of the facts I have stated on the Internet.

Dachshund
 
Diogenes, I just finished posting a reply to one of your posts on Islamophobia.

My post is long, but if you read it, you will have a very quick means of proving that Islam is a false religion. All you need to do is a little checking of the facts I have stated on the Internet.

Dachshund


I happen to believe that all superstitions are false.
 
Governor Ron DeSantis did not violate any laws by arranging the flights of approximately 50 Venezuelan migrants to Martha's Vineyard in September 2022, based on the outcomes of legal challenges, investigations, and expert analyses to date.

The actions were authorized by the Florida Legislature through a $12 million appropriation for a migrant relocation program, and no court has ruled the flights themselves unlawful.

The operation sparked multiple lawsuits alleging deception of the migrants and potential civil rights violations, with one ongoing case against a private contractor.

  • U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, (Boston): Dismissed claims against DeSantis and Florida officials without prejudice due to lack of jurisdiction (actions occurred outside Massachusetts). Allowed claims to proceed against Vertol Systems Co. (Florida-based charter firm. Judge Burroughs noted the evidence was not enough to link state officials directly in this venue.
  • Migrants' attorneys refiled an amended complaint against DeSantis et al., (e.g., Chief of Staff James Uthmeier and Public Safety Czar Lawrence Keefe) and Vertol. No finding of law violation by DeSantis.
  • Democrat State Sen. Jason Pizzo (Sept. 2022). Challenged use of funds as violating budget guidelines and state Constitution. Dismissed (Nov. 2022) on technical grounds (standing/pleading issues). No refiling reported.
  • Southern Poverty Law Center et al. (Dec. 2022) called it "state-sponsored harassment" and unconstitutional. No rulings; DeSantis defended as "lawfully executed."
  • Florida Center for Government Accountability (Oct. 2022) vs. FL Dept. of Transportation/Vertol. Resolved in DeSantis' favor; no illegality found.
  • Bexar County (TX) Sheriff Javier Salazar Probe (Sept. 2022): Investigated recruitment in San Antonio as potential "human smuggling" or fraud. No charges filed; investigation inactive.
  • U.S. DOJ/ICE reviewed the incident for civil rights/TVPA violations (prompted by Biden administration and, strangely, California Gov. Gavin Newsom). Closed without action; no evidence of criminal intent.
  • As of Nov. 2025, no laws broken per courts/investigators. Critics (e.g., ACLU) call it "inhumane" but not illegal.
 
As I said, you ever been there, did you expect the immigrants to run to the phone booth and start calling boat owners renting cabins? With little time available Mass put them up on a church till the Guard could move them to a military base off the island were services were available. DeSantis abandoned them, didn’t notify anyone they were coming, just dumped them

Total publicity stunt, does the State of Florida often pay to rent a private plane, go to Texas, recruit immigrants promising housing and jobs, and then literally dump them in on an island with nothing nor contacting officials there to prepare for them? 100% publicity stunt

“show me the quote,” funny, like Alex Jones saying Sandy Hook was a hoax because there wasn’t any video

Apparently everything
And it worked brilliantly. The Leftists and Liberals on Martha's Vineyard were in a total panic. The governor called out the National Guard to round them up and get them the hell off the island ASAP. It showed the total hypocrisy of the Left on illegal aliens.
 
As I said, you ever been there, did you expect the immigrants to run to the phone booth and start calling boat owners renting cabins? With little time available Mass put them up on a church till the Guard could move them to a military base off the island were services were available. DeSantis abandoned them, didn’t notify anyone they were coming, just dumped them Total publicity stunt, does the State of Florida often pay to rent a private plane, go to Texas, recruit immigrants promising housing and jobs, and then literally dump them in on an island with nothing nor contacting officials there to prepare for them? 100% publicity stunt “show me the quote,” funny, like Alex Jones saying Sandy Hook was a hoax because there wasn’t any video Apparently everything

Repeating your own assertions and tossing in a few unrelated insinuations isn't a valid argument, Anchovies.

No proof, no truth, Anchovies.

Your claim is lame, Anchovies.
 
And it worked brilliantly. The Leftists and Liberals on Martha's Vineyard were in a total panic. The governor called out the National Guard to round them up and get them the hell off the island ASAP. It showed the total hypocrisy of the Left on illegal aliens.


Fun facts:

In July 2024, a corporate retreat unexpectedly lost its mainland ferry; 48 executives walked into the Edgartown visitor center at 3 p.m. on a Thursday. The Chamber placed them in four inns within 45 minutes. ~50 sudden arrivals can be accommodated, obviously. In fact, the lefies put the brown folk in a church that very night.

The left-leaning hypocrites enjoy a Median Household Income of $102,348, ~60% above the national median, and an average (Mean) Household Income of $185,222, 2x the national average.

Statistics are drawn from the U.S. Census Bureau's 2023 American Community Survey (ACS) 5-year estimates, the most recent comprehensive release as of late 2025.
 
And it worked brilliantly. The Leftists and Liberals on Martha's Vineyard were in a total panic. The governor called out the National Guard to round them up and get them the hell off the island ASAP. It showed the total hypocrisy of the Left on illegal aliens.
Wrong beginning to end

No one was “in a panic” cause immigrants were there, rather because of the way they got there, unannounced, in the middle of the day, with no advance notice so preparations could be made. The Governor utilized the Guard to relocate the fifty lost people to nearby facilities where they could be feed, housed, and processed.

It was a cheap publicity stunt that pimped people to gain fifteen minutes of attention on Fox and alike which the State of Florida totally paid for and accomplished nothing
 
Wrong beginning to end

No one was “in a panic” cause immigrants were there, rather because of the way they got there, unannounced, in the middle of the day, with no advance notice so preparations could be made. The Governor utilized the Guard to relocate the fifty lost people to nearby facilities where they could be feed, housed, and processed.

It was a cheap publicity stunt that pimped people to gain fifteen minutes of attention on Fox and alike which the State of Florida totally paid for and accomplished nothing
Dissembling doesn't change things.
 
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