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[Into the Night]

So your position is atheists, cultural relativists, and human secularists do not believe female genital mutilation and head hunting are inherently wrong, because they are sanctioned by the societies they exist in.

I never said any such thing, Cyborg.

That's weird. I don't think you actually believe that to your core, you just painted yourself into a corner with your defence of moral relativism.

Morality IS relative and a subjective description. There is no absolute morality.
Illiteracy: Misspelled word.

Cliche fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

If one side in a war hides a communications center under a hospital or school and the opposing side the bombs that facility destroying both the communication center but also killing hundreds of children, is that a legal act of war according to the Geneva Convention?

Who, in your opinion, is ultimately responsible for the deaths of the children? Those who bombed them or those who used them as meat shields?

Those who used them as meat shields.

 

[Into the Night]

Irrelevant, like the melting temperature of tungsten. Signatories sign up to not violate the convention. All signatories are obligated morally and contractually to punish any signatories who violate the convention.

HAMAS is not a signatory to the convention. It is relevant. Fallacy fallacy. Tungsten is not mentioned in the Geneva Convention. Strawman fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

The question of whether or not any given individual act violates the Geneva convention is a separate question from whether or not Israel is attempting to commit genocide.

There is no genocide.

 

[Into the Night]

Okay. Where's your link to what Israel agreed to?

Go read the Geneva Convention, Void.

 

[Into the Night]

AIPAC owns you.

No one owns me.

You give yourself away.

Assumption of victory fallacy.

Israel is mowing down civilians who even remotely appear to be Arab. Israel is sniping Arab children who are simply waiting in line for food. Israel is killing Arabs out of sheer RACIST HATRED for Arabs.

They are doing no such thing.

Netanyahu promised Israelis that he would effect the 2nd Nakba and that is exactly what he is doing. Nobody was surprised when Abraham Lincoln, candidate of the Republican party, issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Nobody was surprised when Benjamin Netanyahu, leader of the Likud Party, the RACIST party of the 2nd Nakba, initiated the 2nd Nakba.

Contextomy fallacy.

Impressive, considering they are all long-since dead. We've been over this many times, you are well of this. When asked to provide images of these "Hamas Fighters" of which you speak, you suddenly became aware that you had been led astray and instead of being honest about it, because AIPAC has you in their pocket, you decided to double down on total dishonesty and to make the lamest excuses as to why you can't find any images of Hamas fighters, only of Iran's proxy Al Qassam.

Denying what HAMAS has done is not going to work, IBD.

Irrelevant.
1. Genocide is outlawed in its own Convention, which is not one of the Geneva Conventions.
2. The IV Geneva Convention certainly defines war crimes and outlaws them, and war crimes constitute about 85% of IDF terrorism.

There is no genocide.

 

[Into the Night]

So, you can't support your claim?

He doesn't need to. You can go read the Geneva Convention for yourself. Israel is a signatory to it.

Hopefully you aren't under the impression that I'm going to believe something simply because you say it. I mean, you don't believe that, do you?

IBD is not the Geneva Convention, Void. Go read it for yourself.

 

[ZenMode]

Do you realize you know nothing about Zen?

I know plenty about Zen. I use Zen because it is a widely recognized term that is loosely what I'm referencing and because VipasanaMode wouldn't mean anything to anyone here, most likely.

 

[IBDaMann]

It is relevant.

No, it's not relevant, and it's all you got. The issue is how Israel is committing war crimes in violation of conventions to which they are signatories.

 

[IBDaMann]

No one owns me.

... except AIPAC. You regurgitate every single falsehood that they tell you to repeat. Once you are ordered to believe something, there is no reasoning with you on that issue.

They are doing no such thing.

... says AIPAC, and now you.

There is no genocide.

... says AIPAC, and now you.

 

[IBDaMann]

Do you realize you know nothing about Zen?

Do you realize that ZenMode hasn't demonstrated knowledge in any form, only dishonesty.

 

[IBDaMann]

Israel is not HAMAS. The United States is not HAMAS.

Correct. Neither Israel nor the United States has been eradicted by the IDF.

 

[Into the Night]

No, it's not relevant,

It is relevant. You can't just discard it.

and it's all you got.

It's all I need.

The issue is how Israel is committing war crimes in violation of conventions to which they are signatories.

They aren't.

 

[Into the Night]

... except AIPAC.

Repetition fallacy.

You regurgitate every single falsehood that they tell you to repeat.

I am not regurgitating anything.

Once you are ordered to believe something, there is no reasoning with you on that issue.

I am not ordered.

... says AIPAC, and now you.


... says AIPAC, and now you.

I don't give a fuck with AIPAC says. There is no genocide. You cannot manufacture one.

 

[Into the Night]

Correct. Neither Israel nor the United States has been eradicted by the IDF.

I never claimed they were, IBD. Vacuous fallacy.

 

[Hume]

WIth the intent of wiping out a group. Do you think Israel's actions reflect an attempt to wipe out all Gazans?

Absolutely

 

[ZenMode]

Absolutely

Based on what?

 

[Hume]

Based on what?

I cannot think of any genocide in which there were not survivors. Armenians are still around. Jews are still around.

 

[ZenMode]

I cannot think of any genocide in which there were not survivors. Armenians are still around. Jews are still around.

Right, so what makes you believe Israel is commiting genocide?

 

[Hume]

Right, so what makes you believe Israel is commiting genocide?

SYSTEMATIC KILLING OF CIVILIAN POPULATION