The nightmare descent of New York City under Mamdani rule has begun.

There's no such thing as a Socialist Democrat.

There are socialists who pretend to be democratic but they aren't and socialists are precursors to Communism.

Castro said he wasn't a communist...until he was.

Commie Mamdani supports government ownership of grocery stores. That's the definition of Communism.

The vegetable is "sharp as a tack."

Too funny.

Communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

Castro-"I'm not a Communist." Until he was.
 
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Summary of the Article​

The article "New York Bleeds Out," published on November 12, 2025, in American Thinker, argues that New York City is on the brink of financial and social collapse under the new mayoral administration of Zohran Mamdani (a Democratic Socialist of America-backed figure portrayed as a radical socialist). It claims NYC is effectively bankrupt, with a shrinking tax base due to wealthy residents and businesses fleeing, escalating deficits from progressive policies (e.g., free childcare, buses, and grocery stores), and vulnerability to federal aid cuts under President Trump. The piece cites budget figures, tax revenue breakdowns, and state debt projections to warn of a "Detroit-like" downfall, framing Mamdani's agenda as intentionally destructive to create government dependency.
Key claims include:
  • NYC's 2025 budget: $119.8 billion total, $86.8 billion in revenues, leading to $5–6 billion annual deficits.
  • Heavy reliance on $10.5 billion in federal aid and $20.7 billion from New York State.
  • Top 1% of earners (40,000 people) provide 45% of $17.4 billion in personal income taxes; half could leave, costing $4 billion.
  • Businesses contribute $13 billion directly + $30 billion indirectly; 10 major firms alone tie to $5 billion in revenue.
  • State-level issues: $27 billion unfunded deficits (2027–2029), debt rising from $56.5 billion to $95.6 billion via "backdoor borrowing."
  • Policies will worsen everything, harming the working class.
The tone is highly partisan, labeling Mamdani an "antisemitic, anti-American socialist nepo baby" and DSA principles as Marxist sabotage.

Fact-Checking the Claims​

The article's financial and demographic data draws from real sources like NYC's official budget documents and State Comptroller reports, but it extrapolates them into alarmist predictions without strong evidence for imminent collapse. Many claims are speculative (e.g., mass exodus under Mamdani) and ignore countervailing trends like recent population growth and crime reductions. No major fact-checking outlets (e.g., Snopes, FactCheck.org) have directly debunked this specific piece as of November 16, 2025, but broader analyses of NYC's fiscal health align partially while contradicting the doomsday narrative. Below is a breakdown:
Claim CategoryArticle's AssertionVerificationAccuracy
Budget & Deficits$119.8B budget with $86.8B revenues, $5–6B annual deficits; reliant on $10.5B federal + $20.7B state aid.NYC's FY 2025 adopted budget is indeed ~$112.4B (executive) to $119.8B (including capital), with revenues ~$86–$90B and structural gaps projected at $4–7B annually per Independent Budget Office (IBO) reports. Federal aid: ~$10–11B (e.g., Medicaid, housing); state aid: ~$20–22B. Trump-era cuts are possible but not yet enacted—federal funding to NYC has historically been stable despite rhetoric.Mostly True: Figures match official docs, but deficits are managed via reserves/taxes, not "bankruptcy." No evidence of immediate "bleeding out."
Tax Base ErosionTop 1% (40,000 people) pay 45% of $17.4B personal income taxes; 50% exodus could cost $4B. Businesses: $13B direct + $30B indirect; $5B from 10 firms at risk. Mamdani's tax hikes on wealthy/businesses will accelerate flight.Top 1% do contribute ~42–45% of NYC's $16–18B PIT (per IBO/Comptroller). Business taxes: ~$12–14B direct (corporate/business income) + ~$25–35B indirect (e.g., sales/property tied to activity). Post-2020 exodus: ~500K net loss (2020–2023), but high earners did leave (e.g., 75K millionaires 2020–2022 per Henley & Partners). However, 2024 saw net gains of 87K residents (to 8.48M), driven by immigration; no 2025 exodus spike yet. Tax hikes proposed but not passed; relocations (e.g., Goldman Sachs to FL) happen but are offset by inflows.Partially True: Revenue reliance is real; some flight occurred. But exaggerated—population rebounded 1% in 2024, and 2025 data shows no "half" exodus.
Population ExodusImminent mass departure of wealthy/residents due to policies, eroding tax base; references 1M potential exits.NYC pop: Peaked at 8.74M (2020), fell to 8.39M (2023) amid pandemic/high costs/crime spikes, but grew to 8.48M by July 2024 (+87K) and ~8.48M in early 2025 per Census. Statewide: Lost 101K (2023), 630K (2020–2023), but slowed in 2024. Drivers: Housing costs (not just crime/taxes). No evidence of acceleration under Mamdani (elected Nov 2025).Mostly False: Past declines real, but reversed recently; article ignores 2024–2025 growth.
Crime & Social DeclineDefund police + "free services" + antisemitism will fuel chaos; implies rising crime under socialists.Crime: Major index crimes down 2.9% in 2024 (3,662 fewer incidents); murders -11%, robberies -27%, shootings -7.3% per NYPD. 2025 early data: Shootings at 30-year low (Jan–Feb). Hate crimes down 4%. No "defund" cuts—Mamdani supports community policing, not slashes. Antisemitism concerns real (post-10/7 spikes), but not tied to city "bleeding."False: Crime is declining sharply, contradicting decline narrative. Policies untested.
State/Federal VulnerabilitiesState: $27B deficits (2027–2029), debt to $95.6B via illegal borrowing; 40% budget ($98.5B) from feds, facing $5B+ cuts amid $37T national debt.Comptroller DiNapoli warns of $20–30B gaps (2025–2029) from Medicaid/pensions; debt ~$55B GO bonds, but total obligations ~$200B+ via authorities ("backdoor" borrowing criticized as off-books). Feds: ~$90–100B to state (38–42% of $240–250B budget); $5B drop projected pre-Trump. National debt: ~$36–37T.Mostly True: Projections align, but state has $20B+ reserves; cuts speculative.

Overall Assessment​

The article is not entirely true—it's a mix of factual data spun into unsubstantiated hyperbole. NYC does face real fiscal pressures (deficits, aid reliance, inequality), and outmigration risks persist, especially for high earners. However, claims of inevitable "madness" and collapse under Mamdani overstate unproven policy impacts while ignoring positive trends: population rebound, record jobs/tourism (65M visitors in 2024), median income highs ($81K), and sustained crime drops. This fits American Thinker's conservative slant, amplifying fears without balanced evidence. For context, similar warnings (e.g., 2022 "doom loops") haven't materialized as NYC adapts via federal funds and economic resilience.

@grok
I give it 1 year before they need Plisskin up in that Big Apple.
NY may get a GOP governor soon, that should be interesting.
 
Mamdani is a social democrat.
You don't even know what that means halfwit. :palm:

From their website, sounds like Karl Marx:

Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society.

We believe there are many avenues that feed into the democratic road to socialism. Our vision pushes further than historic social democracy and leaves behind authoritarian visions of socialism in the dustbin of history.

We want a democracy that creates space for us all to flourish not just survive and answers the fundamental questions of our lives with the input of all. We want to collectively own the key economic drivers that dominate our lives, such as energy production and transportation. We want the multiracial working class united in solidarity instead of divided by fear. We want to win “radical” reforms like single-payer Medicare for All, defunding the police/refunding communities, the Green New Deal, and more as a transition to a freer, more just life.

We want a democracy powered by everyday people. The capitalist class tells us we are powerless, but together we can take back control.

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

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You don't even know what that means halfwit. :palm:

From their website, sounds like Karl Marx:

Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society.

We believe there are many avenues that feed into the democratic road to socialism. Our vision pushes further than historic social democracy and leaves behind authoritarian visions of socialism in the dustbin of history.

We want a democracy that creates space for us all to flourish not just survive and answers the fundamental questions of our lives with the input of all. We want to collectively own the key economic drivers that dominate our lives, such as energy production and transportation. We want the multiracial working class united in solidarity instead of divided by fear. We want to win “radical” reforms like single-payer Medicare for All, defunding the police/refunding communities, the Green New Deal, and more as a transition to a freer, more just life.

We want a democracy powered by everyday people. The capitalist class tells us we are powerless, but together we can take back control.

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

URL]]
They don't want anyone to own anything. It never ends up working like that, though. An economic system based on envy of success is
doomed to fail. Logically, even.
Dime to a dollar the people speaking up against Mamdami policies will be squelched as much as his power allows.
 
You don't even know what that means halfwit. :palm:

From their website, sounds like Karl Marx:

Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society.

We believe there are many avenues that feed into the democratic road to socialism. Our vision pushes further than historic social democracy and leaves behind authoritarian visions of socialism in the dustbin of history.

We want a democracy that creates space for us all to flourish not just survive and answers the fundamental questions of our lives with the input of all. We want to collectively own the key economic drivers that dominate our lives, such as energy production and transportation. We want the multiracial working class united in solidarity instead of divided by fear. We want to win “radical” reforms like single-payer Medicare for All, defunding the police/refunding communities, the Green New Deal, and more as a transition to a freer, more just life.

We want a democracy powered by everyday people. The capitalist class tells us we are powerless, but together we can take back control.

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

URL]]

@Jake Starkey has ZERO knowledge of the Marxism he serves. He is a mindless drone who spews any propaganda the party feeds him with no understanding of the meaning and no desire for understanding.

He lives to serve the party.
 
He is as much a Communist as Trump is a Fascist, halfwit.

How would you know? You have absolutely zero knowledge of the Marxism you promote as a mindless drone of the party.

Ignorance is the strength of your party - knowledge and intelligence is the domain of the right, of the Americans.

Or you could show your knowledge;

 

The nightmare descent of New York City under Mamdani rule has begun. Defunding the police, “free” services, and antisemitism are the tip of the spear. Staffing, policies, and mandates will issue from the mayor daily, implemented by an administration of hardcore socialists.

New York City Residents are getting all hyped up for their Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade:

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