Democrats Use Their IDs to Vote Against Voter ID bill

[Lionfish]

I just drove today and didn't have to show an ID.

You have to carry an ID to drive.

Many of the things you just listed don't require IDs. My bank doesn't require an ID when I use their ATM

An ID was required when you obtained an ATM card.

or when I deposit a check or even when I write a check.

That is up to the store whether or not you have to show an ID when writing a check, which begs the question, why are you writing a check in the first place? People stopped writing checks years ago. Or are you one of "those"?

When I visit my doctor, I don't have to show ID.

Bullshit. Doctors scan proof of insurance and photo ID every year.

I only have to confirm my birthday.

After you have yearly given them your photo ID and insurance card to be scanned, it is because when you give them your date of birth, your picture comes up on their screen.

My library doesn't have to look at my ID.

I picked a random one, and this was the first off the Google machine.
Wisconsin residents may apply for a Library card by presenting a valid photo ID and proof of current residence. Children under eighteen must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian presenting a valid photo ID and proof of current residence.

Library Card Eligibility - Menomonee Falls Public Library

Chapter: CirculationPolicy Number: 2.01Original Effective Date: 5/16Revision History: 6/19/19, 6/16/21, 3/20/24, 7/16/25 Library Card Eligibility As a member of the Bridges Library System, Menomonee Falls Public Library primarily serves residents of Waukesha and Jefferson Counties. Wisconsin...

www.menomoneefallslibrary.org

I can just tell them my number. Federal buildings don't require ID to enter.

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Yes, some federal buildings require visitors to present identification that meets REAL ID standards to enter. This requirement is enforced by the Department of Homeland Security.

federalnewsnetwork.com

Have you never heard of National parks?

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Yes, to obtain a national park permit, you typically need to show a government-issued photo ID to verify your identity and residency status. This is especially important for passes like the America the Beautiful Pass, which has specific ID requirements starting in 2026.

By the way, your list could be titled
Not guaranteed as a right by the Constitution
Your entire list
Guaranteed as a right by the Constitution
Voting


Someone has clearly never participated in political events since they think an ID is required.

Democratic senator requires photo ID to enter campaign event while opposing voter ID for elections​

 

[Yakuda]

There are police inside the polls. If you try cheating, they will be called.

If you don't have to prove who you are when you vote how would anyone know you're cheating and then call the police? Talking irrationally isn't made rational by repeating it. You people are so utterly stupid its a minor miracle if you have all your digits. It's idiots like you that require "hot liquid" be printed on coffee cups. Holy fucking shit!

 

[Yakuda]

You have to carry an ID to drive.

An ID was required when you obtained an ATM card.

That is up to the store whether or not you have to show an ID when writing a check, which begs the question, why are you writing a check in the first place? People stopped writing checks years ago. Or are you one of "those"?

Bullshit. Doctors scan proof of insurance and photo ID every year.


After you have yearly given them your photo ID and insurance card to be scanned, it is because when you give them your date of birth, your picture comes up on their screen.

I picked a random one, and this was the first off the Google machine.
Wisconsin residents may apply for a Library card by presenting a valid photo ID and proof of current residence. Children under eighteen must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian presenting a valid photo ID and proof of current residence.

Library Card Eligibility - Menomonee Falls Public Library

Chapter: CirculationPolicy Number: 2.01Original Effective Date: 5/16Revision History: 6/19/19, 6/16/21, 3/20/24, 7/16/25 Library Card Eligibility As a member of the Bridges Library System, Menomonee Falls Public Library primarily serves residents of Waukesha and Jefferson Counties. Wisconsin...

www.menomoneefallslibrary.org

Search Assist



Yes, some federal buildings require visitors to present identification that meets REAL ID standards to enter. This requirement is enforced by the Department of Homeland Security.

federalnewsnetwork.com


Search Assist



Yes, to obtain a national park permit, you typically need to show a government-issued photo ID to verify your identity and residency status. This is especially important for passes like the America the Beautiful Pass, which has specific ID requirements starting in 2026.

Democratic senator requires photo ID to enter campaign event while opposing voter ID for elections​

But jump through a thousand hoops to get a gun

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Nobody ever commits felonies right? Go back to licking your mother's balls. You're probably not very good at that either

People are arrested for felonies all the time. I can count on one hand the times someone was arrested for impersonating someone to vote for them. In all cases it was done with an absentee ballot and usually for a dead family member.

So, tell us how many people have been arrested for voter fraud in the last 10 years where they impersonated someone.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

There are police inside the polls. If you try cheating, they will be called.

Many states make it illegal for police to be in the polling place. This is to prevent intimidation of voters.

 

[Yakuda]

People are arrested for felonies all the time. I can count on one hand the times someone was arrested for impersonating someone to vote for them. In all cases it was done with an absentee ballot and usually for a dead family member.

So, tell us how many people have been arrested for voter fraud in the last 10 years where they impersonated someone.

I'll ask you again, if no one has to prove who they are when they vote how would anyone detect that fraud is happening?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You have to carry an ID to drive.

No. You don't.

An ID was required when you obtained an ATM card.

Nope. They sent it to me in the mail and no ID was required. This argument on your part shows how deep you are in your cult. I only had to show ID when I opened the account. This is similar to only have to show ID when I registered to vote.

That is up to the store whether or not you have to show an ID when writing a check, which begs the question, why are you writing a check in the first place? People stopped writing checks years ago. Or are you one of "those"?

Gosh. So deep in the cult you don't realize you just destroyed your own argument. If I use a debit card tied to my bank account which acts as a check I don't have to show ID.

Bullshit. Doctors scan proof of insurance and photo ID every year.

Gosh. There you go again. Proving that showing ID when registering to vote is all that is needed.

After you have yearly given them your photo ID and insurance card to be scanned, it is because when you give them your date of birth, your picture comes up on their screen.

I picked a random one, and this was the first off the Google machine.
Wisconsin residents may apply for a Library card by presenting a valid photo ID and proof of current residence. Children under eighteen must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian presenting a valid photo ID and proof of current residence.

Library Card Eligibility - Menomonee Falls Public Library

Chapter: CirculationPolicy Number: 2.01Original Effective Date: 5/16Revision History: 6/19/19, 6/16/21, 3/20/24, 7/16/25 Library Card Eligibility As a member of the Bridges Library System, Menomonee Falls Public Library primarily serves residents of Waukesha and Jefferson Counties. Wisconsin...

www.menomoneefallslibrary.org

Proving once again, that presenting an ID when registering is the only time the ID is required.

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Yes, some federal buildings require visitors to present identification that meets REAL ID standards to enter. This requirement is enforced by the Department of Homeland Security.

federalnewsnetwork.com


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Some is not all. Once again, being in the cult you don't see how you destroyed your own argument. No one has to provide an ID all the time so it reinforces the argument you should NOT have to show an ID every time you vote.

Yes, to obtain a national park permit, you typically need to show a government-issued photo ID to verify your identity and residency status. This is especially important for passes like the America the Beautiful Pass, which has specific ID requirements starting in 2026.

ROFLMAO. Clearly you haven't gone to too many national parks. A day pass does NOT require ID.

Democratic senator requires photo ID to enter campaign event while opposing voter ID for elections​

Once again, you are proving you are in a cult because some events requiring ID is not ALL events so once again, you are arguing that supporting that it is wrong to have to show an ID all the time.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I'll ask you again, if no one has to prove who they are when they vote how would anyone detect that fraud is happening?

People have been arrested for voter fraud. They have been few and far between. The lack of voter fraud doesn't mean it is rampant. Occam's razor would require you to admit that it is rare.

 

[Yakuda]

People have been arrested for voter fraud. They have been few and far between. The lack of voter fraud doesn't mean it is rampant. Occam's razor would require you to admit that it is rare.

So what? How is that proof voter fraud doesn't happen? Of course it would be "few and far between" if no one is asked to prove who they are when they votes. Did you see my story about voting in Massachusetts? They had no way to know if I was or wasn't the person I claimed to be so how could they determine if any fraud had taken place?

 

[Nordberg]

People are arrested for felonies all the time. I can count on one hand the times someone was arrested for impersonating someone to vote for them. In all cases it was done with an absentee ballot and usually for a dead family member.

So, tell us how many people have been arrested for voter fraud in the last 10 years where they impersonated someone.

The people using a dead spouses mail in ballot is even more prevalent for Repubs. It was a big deal in the Villages a few years ago. Trying to vote as someone else is a rare thing and the punishment is severe.
Last election rightys were talking about finding traces of bamboo on ballots, indicating China was flooding polls with fake ballots. That will not work. Your name is in the precinct book. When you vote, you are marked as voted. What would happen to a load of ballots flooding a precinct? The authorities would be called. There is no way flooding an election with ballots could work.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

So what? How is that proof voter fraud doesn't happen? Of course it would be "few and far between" if no one is asked to prove who they are when they votes. Did you see my story about voting in Massachusetts? They had no way to know if I was or wasn't the person I claimed to be so how could they determine if any fraud had taken place?

Your argument and logic is bullshit. I already explained how the fraud would be easy to find. The chances of fraud not being found out are actually pretty small. Voter turnout in Mass in 2024 was 68%. So you would have only a 32% chance that the person you were trying to impersonate wouldn't show up. But you would also have to be early to the polls to prevent you from trying to impersonate a person that had already voted which would result in your arrest. Now, let's expand this to 10 people trying to impersonate someone else. With 10 people, randomly selecting someone to impersonate, the chances of that it resulting in someone showing up to vote and being told they had already voted is 99.99%. Do you really think that 5 or 10 people reporting someone had impersonated them to vote wouldn't make the news?

So let's recap.
You would have to be lucky enough to select someone that wasn't going to vote.
Then you would have to hope that no one working at the polling place actually knows that person.
Then you would have to be lucky enough that no other voters that know that person would overhear you claim you were them.
Then to make it meaningful, it would require several thousand people be able to do that without anyone finding out.
Not only is it unlikely that could happen, it is statistically impossible.

 

[Yakuda]

Your argument and logic is bullshit. I already explained how the fraud would be easy to find. The chances of fraud not being found out are actually pretty small. Voter turnout in Mass in 2024 was 68%. So you would have only a 32% chance that the person you were trying to impersonate wouldn't show up. But you would also have to be early to the polls to prevent you from trying to impersonate a person that had already voted which would result in your arrest. Now, let's expand this to 10 people trying to impersonate someone else. With 10 people, randomly selecting someone to impersonate, the chances of that it resulting in someone showing up to vote and being told they had already voted is 99.99%. Do you really think that 5 or 10 people reporting someone had impersonated them to vote wouldn't make the news?

So let's recap.
You would have to be lucky enough to select someone that wasn't going to vote.
Then you would have to hope that no one working at the polling place actually knows that person.
Then you would have to be lucky enough that no other voters that know that person would overhear you claim you were them.
Then to make it meaningful, it would require several thousand people be able to that without anyone finding out.
Not only is it unlikely that could happen, it is statistically impossible.

So I wasn't asked to prove who I was when I voted and neither did any other voter before or after me that day and in none of the polling places a cross the state but no fraud took place, and its my argument and logic that's bullshit. LMFAO. Taking to you is like talking to a three year old

 

[Crepitus]

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The people using a dead spouses mail in ballot is even more prevalent for Repubs. It was a big deal in the Villages a few years ago. Trying to vote as someone else is a rare thing and the punishment is severe.
Last election rightys were talking about finding traces of bamboo on ballots, indicating China was flooding polls with fake ballots. That will not work. Your name is in the precinct book. When you vote, you are marked as voted. What would happen to a load of ballots flooding a precinct? The authorities would be called. There is no way flooding an election with ballots could work.

One of the things that happens at every precinct is that they have to confirm that the number of ballots cast corresponds with the number of ballots given out which also has to correspond to the number of people that signed in to get ballots. The number of ballots cast could be less than the number given out if someone changed their mind and decided to not vote after receiving a ballot. The number of ballots given out could be more than the number of people that signed to get ballots but that would have to match spoiled ballots returned when given a new ballot. The increase in ballots would be known before the count is ever done and the increase would cause an investigation. There are reasons why every part of voting requires 2 persons to monitor that part. It is to prevent one person working the polling place from committing fraud.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

So I wasn't asked to prove who I was when I voted and neither did any other voter before or after me that day and in none of the polling places a cross the state but no fraud took place, and its my argument and logic that's bullshit. LMFAO. Taking to you is like talking to a three year old

Your logic is such that unless we go door to door every day to see who is alive we won't know if any murders were committed. It's like you are in a cult because you can't understand simple logic let alone statistics.

There is no actual statistical difference between no fraud and fraud that is so low that it can't affect the outcome of the election. Arguing that fraud that can't affect the outcome could affect the outcome shows you to be the three year old.

But let's take your idiotic argument to it's logical end. If you require ID's because some fraud could occur then what about the fact that ID's will never prevent all fraud? By your own logic, requiring ID's will never fix what you claim the problem is since there will always be fraud of some kind.
The only logical conclusion to the problem is to try to keep fraud to a low enough level that it has no effect on the election results. That is already occurring even without checking IDs. You are requiring a fix that doesn't eliminate all fraud.

 

[Yakuda]

Your logic is such that unless we go door to door every day to see who is alive we won't know if any murders were committed. It's like you are in a cult because you can't understand simple logic let alone statistics.

There is no actual statistical difference between no fraud and fraud that is so low that it can't affect the outcome of the election. Arguing that fraud that can't affect the outcome could affect the outcome shows you to be the three year old.

But let's take your idiotic argument to it's logical end. If you require ID's because some fraud could occur then what about the fact that ID's will never prevent all fraud? By your own logic, requiring ID's will never fix what you claim the problem is since there will always be fraud of some kind.
The only logical conclusion to the problem is to try to keep fraud to a low enough level that it has no effect on the election results. That is already occurring even without checking IDs. You are requiring a fix that doesn't eliminate all fraud.

So I'm suppose to believe not asking people to prove who they are when they vote is evidence voter fraud doesn't happen. A pile of my dogs shit is smarter than you.

 

[Nordberg]

LOL

That was a pretty profound response by your standards. Why do you bother with such crap responses?

 

[FastLane]

Schumer is a hypocrite.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

So I'm suppose to believe not asking people to prove who they are when they vote is evidence voter fraud doesn't happen. A pile of my dogs shit is smarter than you.

So I'm supposed to believe millions of people weren't murdered last night when there is evidence of murder? My dog's puke is smarter than you are.

Let's recap how stupid your argument is. You claim that because some fraud occurs we require ID's. This would seem to argue that ID's would eliminate all fraud. We know for a fact that ID's don't eliminate all fraud since much of the fraud would not be prevented by requiring ID's. You are certifiably insane for wanting to implement something that doesn't solve the problem you claim you are trying to solve.

But let's apply your logic and see you explode. Since some murders occur with guns, we should ban guns.

 

[Yakuda]

So I'm supposed to believe millions of people weren't murdered last night when there is evidence of murder? My dog's puke is smarter than you are.

Let's recap how stupid your argument is. You claim that because some fraud occurs we require ID's. This would seem to argue that ID's would eliminate all fraud. We know for a fact that ID's don't eliminate all fraud since much of the fraud would not be prevented by requiring ID's. You are certifiably insane for wanting to implement something that doesn't solve the problem you claim you are trying to solve.

But let's apply your logic and see you explode. Since some murders occur with guns, we should ban guns.

Kind of like the gun laws you idiots want to apply that only make it harder for law abiding citizens who have a right to have guns, to get a gun? STFU

I never argued IDs would prevent fraud but whats the danger in requiring people to prove who they are when they vote? If there was a desire to commit fraud that would be an ideal way to do it so why not require ID?