Under pressure FBI Director Kash Patel claims agency has ‘evidence’ that 2020 election was stolen from Trump: ‘Stay tuned this week'

Dutch Uncle said:
The MAGAts believe it as shown on JPP daily. Bad news for them is that Trump is shedding supporters with his antics. Kash sees this and is worried about his job.
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Trump is shedding those centrists who really didn't like Kamala,
but he's shedding nothing from his core Trumpanzee base.

Here's the deal-- as I see it, at least.
Those who believe Americans can actually be unified tend to come from the center third.
They don't seem to realize just how much capitulation that they're asking from the right and left thirds.

Also, many of the optimists are from Middle America.
Even if they understand how entrenched hard core MAGAts are,
they don't all really understand how entrenched tens of millions of big city Americans are.

I cannot personally envision such large segments of ideologically diverse people--entrenched people--
ever coming to consensus. It wouldn't merely require compromise. It would require humiliating capitulation.

I have to imagine that people from different viewing locations will have different perspectives,
but I'm being 100% honest about what I see from mine.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Trump is shedding those centrists who really didn't like Kamala,
but he's shedding nothing from his core Trumpanzee base.

Here's the deal-- as I see it, at least.
Those who believe Americans can actually be unified tend to come from the center third.
They don't seem to realize just how much capitulation that they're asking from the right and left thirds.

Also, many of the optimists are from Middle America.
Even if they understand how entrenched hard core MAGAts are,
they don't all really understand how entrenched tens of millions of big city Americans are.

I cannot personally envision such large segments of ideologically diverse people--entrenched people--
ever coming to consensus. It wouldn't merely require compromise. It would require humiliating capitulation.

I have to imagine that people from different viewing locations will have different perspectives,
but I'm being 100% honest about what I see from mine.
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Sorry, but disagreed the 2024 election was about Kamala compared to the Democratic Party agenda as a whole. She actually did pretty well by pulling the Democratic ticket out of the Biden post-debate nosedive but too little, too late. Even the Democrats are recognizing that, by focusing on the small issues such as transgenders in sports/bathrooms, they lost the big issues such what the Democrats can do for the majority of their constituents.

As for a divided America, you and I both lived through the Vietnam War. There was a lot more violence in those days between Americans than nowadays. Now is not optimal, but still an improvement over the Watts riots, Chicago, Kent State, multiple assassinations of national leaders, etc not to mention all the body bags coming home from SEA.
 
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Gerrymandering—the manipulation of electoral district boundaries for partisan advantage—has been used by both parties throughout U.S. history, with Republicans utilizing advanced, data-driven techniques in modern cycles to maximize seats, particularly after the 2010 "REDMAP" initiative. While the term originates from Democratic-Republican Elbridge Gerry in 1812, Republicans have historically, and in the 21st century, secured significant power through "packing and cracking" strategies, a practice often protected by the Supreme Court’s 2019 ruling that federal courts cannot review partisan map disputes.
Key Historical Moments and Strategies:
  • 19th Century Roots: Republicans used their control of Congress to create new states from territories friendly to their party (e.g., dividing the Dakota Territory into two states) to secure additional electoral votes.
  • 2010 REDMAP Initiative: The Republican State Leadership Committee (RSLC) launched the Redistricting Majority Project (REDMAP) ahead of the 2010 census. By winning state-level elections in key swing states, they gained control over redistricting, resulting in highly efficient maps that secured numerous House seats and state legislative majorities for the next decade.
  • Modern Technology & "Surgical Precision": Unlike earlier methods, modern Republican gerrymandering, similar to other partisan efforts, uses computer algorithms and detailed voter data to create "surgical" maps, choosing the most effective map from thousands of generated options.
  • Key States & Techniques: States like North Carolina, Texas, Ohio, and Wisconsin have featured high-profile, Republican-drawn maps that packed Democratic voters into a few districts while spreading Republican voters across many, creating durable majorities.
  • Legal Challenges: The Supreme Court in Rucho v. Common Cause (2019) ruled that while gerrymandering is, in their words, "inconsistent with democratic principles," federal courts cannot intervene in partisan cases, allowing states to continue the practice.
While the GOP has utilized this strategy extensively, the practice is not exclusive to them, with Democrats similarly creating favorable maps in states they control.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Sorry, but disagreed the 2024 election was about Kamala compared to the Democratic Party agenda as a whole. She actually did pretty well by pulling the Democratic ticket out of the Biden post-debate nosedive but too little, too late. Even the Democrats are recognizing that, by focusing on the small issues such as transgenders in sports/bathrooms, they lost the big issues such what the Democrats can do for the majority of their constituents.

As for a divided America, you and I both lived through the Vietnam War. There was a lot more violence in those days between Americans than nowadays. Now is not optimal, but still an improvement over the Watts riots, Chicago, Kent State, multiple assassinations of national leaders, etc not to mention all the body bags coming home from SEA.
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I not only lived through the Vietnam War, but for a short time that didn't seem at all short, participated in it.
Most of my comrades in arms were conscriptees,
and most of them didn't believe for a moment that what we were being asked to do
had anything at all to do with defending an actually threatened America.

I agree that there was a lot more violence stateside then than we have now,
but I cannot agree for a minute that there was more hatred than exists now.
Most civil violence was met with tear gas back then.
Today it's met with live fire, especially in the Pigshit era.
Having been a full-grown adult in both eras,
I can't agree that America was anymore divided then than now.

Considering the slavery issue,
I would opine that America has been harshly divided since its conception.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I not only lived through the Vietnam War, but for a short time that didn't seem at all short, participated in it.
Most of my comrades in arms were conscriptees,
and most of them didn't believe for a moment that what we were being asked to do
had anything at all to do with defending an actually threatened America.

I agree that there was a lot more violence stateside then than we have now,
but I cannot agree for a minute that there was more hatred than exists now.
Most civil violence was met with tear gas back then.
Today it's met with live fire, especially in the Pigshit era.
Having been a full-grown adult in both eras,
I can't agree that America was anymore divided then than now.

Considering the slavery issue,
I would opine that America has been harshly divided since its conception.
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Despite the grim outlook, the fact the body count and civil violence is so much lower is encouraging despite the fact the US population has grown from 203M in 1969 to 344M in 2025.

Nostalgia often looks at the past with rose-colored glasses, but reality is seen in the numbers.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Nostalgia often looks at the past with rose-colored glasses, but reality is seen in the numbers.
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Since cataract surgery, I only have nerdy reading glasses and non-prescription Ray Bans (Blues Brothers model).
I'll have to look into those rose-colored ones at the optical shop.
That may be just what I'm missing.:cool:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
e majority of their constituents.

As for a divided America, you and I both lived through the Vietnam War. There was a lot more violence in those days between Americans than nowadays. Now is not optimal, but still an improvement over the Watts riots, Chicago, Kent State, multiple assassinations of national leaders, etc not to mention all the body bags coming home from SEA.
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One thing I forgot to mention.
During the 1960s, neither Johnson nor Nixon authorized offensive deadly attacks on either citizens or immigrants.
We had war profiteering at home and indefensible aggression abroad,
but we didn't have fascism at home.
 
Gerrymandering was quaint for many years. It was not a big deal. Then this aasshole came along and weaponized it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpamjJtXqFI Trump calls cheating winning. Are you tired of winning yet?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
One thing I forgot to mention.
During the 1960s, neither Johnson nor Nixon authorized offensive deadly attacks on either citizens or immigrants.
We had war profiteering at home and indefensible aggression abroad,
but we didn't have fascism at home.
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It's a progression by the white nationalists.

I'm looking forward to many of them committing suicide like their forefathers in the next few years.

Sadly, these evil fucks will likely murder their families too. All MAGAts really are evil fucks. :(

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Michigan has been a very gerrymandered state. It did not matter if the Dems got more votes, it was a red state house. Note Trumpys, when the Dems got control they they used universities to create fair districts. They formed committees with equal left and equal right, and with independents on it to make the districts fair.
 
signalmankenneth said:
Sounds like Trump will be getting that third term now?!!:rolleyes2:

FBI Director Kash Patel has insisted he has the “evidence” to finally prove President Trump’s long-standing claim that the 2020 election was rigged against him, and hinted he could make it available this week.

Patel – who was hit by allegations of alcoholism this weekend, sparking rumors he could soon be fired – told Maria Bartiromo on Fox News’s Sunday Morning Futures: “We have the information that backs President Trump’s claim.

“I can’t get ahead of the Department of Justice and the president, but President Trump… President Trump speaks truthfully when he says that.”

“Stay tuned this week,” he urged Fox viewers. “You might see a thing or two.”

Trump claimed his defeat to Joe Biden in November 2020 was the result of a nationwide conspiracy to fix the outcome, inspiring a short-lived “Stop the Steal” movement that culminated in the attempted insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on January 6 2021, in which his supporters stormed the legislative complex to try to prevent the formal certification of the results by Congress.

Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, had lost a string of court cases attempting to establish wrongdoing in the run-up to the riot, and its aftermath saw the president impeached for a historic second time and more than 1,500 people prosecuted for their involvement, only for their actions to be pardoned in 2025.

Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, had lost a string of court cases attempting to establish wrongdoing in the run-up to the riot, and its aftermath saw the president impeached for a historic second time and more than 1,500 people prosecuted for their involvement, only for their actions to be pardoned in 2025.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/under-pressure-kash-patel-claims-084229806.html

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There was no election in 2020. Biden didn't win. That election cycle failed due to Democrat Election fraud.
 
archives said:
Not surprising, couldn’t get those 11,780 votes so Patel will find them for him
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There are not 11,780 members of the electoral college, anchovies.
archives said:
Always been scheduled, they didn’t confiscate Georgia’s ballot for nothing, and are now fighting to get ballots from Michigan. In addition, they want all registration records fro something like 21 States, not surprisingly, the vast majority Blue States Trump lost
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Some election officials are going to get prosecuted, anchovies. Election fraud is a crime.
archives said:
Don’t be shocked if Trump issues one of his infamous EO declaring the DOJ has to step in and run elections in certain districts in designated States due to uncovered “fraud.” Would have thought it was on board for 2028 but the midterms looking as such, 2026 might be rescheduled
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You can't make the election fraud that Democrats committed just disappear, anchovies.
 
BartenderElite said:
Just reading some comments on the internet about this story - it's truly crazy how many there are that STILL believe Trump won that election in a "landslide."

Only because Trump said so. They're absolutely convinced it was stolen - only because Trump said so.
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There was no election in 2020, Barfly. Democrat election fraud caused that election to fail.
 
Ross Dolan said:
Good question.

Trump and the fools who continue to back him have done more damage to our Republic than all of our foreign enemies over the years have done combined.

AND THEY STILL CANNOT SEE IT.
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Void argument fallacy.
Ross Dolan said:
Let's hope the election in November gets enough opposition to Trump in office to get this under control and keep it under control for the next two years.
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Right. You actually think a bunch of people that support criminal fraud, riots, insurrection, organized crime, illegal aliens, brutal dictators, the China and Iran governments;

are gonna get voted in! :rofl2:
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Trump is shedding those centrists who really didn't like Kamala,
but he's shedding nothing from his core Trumpanzee base.

Here's the deal-- as I see it, at least.
Those who believe Americans can actually be unified tend to come from the center third.
They don't seem to realize just how much capitulation that they're asking from the right and left thirds.

Also, many of the optimists are from Middle America.
Even if they understand how entrenched hard core MAGAts are,
they don't all really understand how entrenched tens of millions of big city Americans are.

I cannot personally envision such large segments of ideologically diverse people--entrenched people--
ever coming to consensus. It wouldn't merely require compromise. It would require humiliating capitulation.

I have to imagine that people from different viewing locations will have different perspectives,
but I'm being 100% honest about what I see from mine.
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You're a Democrat Nifty.
MAGAts is not a word.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Sorry, but disagreed the 2024 election was about Kamala compared to the Democratic Party agenda as a whole. She actually did pretty well by pulling the Democratic ticket out of the Biden post-debate nosedive but too little, too late. Even the Democrats are recognizing that, by focusing on the small issues such as transgenders in sports/bathrooms, they lost the big issues such what the Democrats can do for the majority of their constituents.
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Hilarious! You think Kamala was actually nominated!
Dutch Uncle said:
As for a divided America, you and I both lived through the Vietnam War. There was a lot more violence in those days between Americans than nowadays. Now is not optimal, but still an improvement over the Watts riots, Chicago, Kent State, multiple assassinations of national leaders, etc not to mention all the body bags coming home from SEA.
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The Watts riots were Democrats.
Kent State was caused by Democrats attacking military.
Democrats have assassinated many leaders, including Abraham Lincoln, and tried to assassinate Trump TWICE.

Today, Democrats loot, riot, support organized crime, commit insurrection, harbor illegal aliens, support Iran, China, North Vietnam, North Korea, and of course Iran's proxies.
 
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