Rasmussen: Gingrich soars ahead of Mittens by 21%

WOW, is November 30, 2011 AFTER December 2, 2011? I could have sworn it was the other way around! But since you are trumpeting a poll average posted on 11/30, it most certainly MUST come after my poll, which was posted 12/2.

Such a big difference in forty-eight hours? Just what did Newtie do over the last two days, I must have missed it.
 
On one hand I hope they nominate newt the impeacher for the damage it would do to the Republican Party and because it makes President Obama's reelection much more likely... but on the other hand the chance the guy could pull it off however small scares me to death, it would be the end of this weak recovery.

What it's going to be the end of, is Keynesian Liberal policies that do not work.

Oh, and Obama's re-election is not likely, even if the GOP nominates Mitt Romney's DOG!
 
Yes, but that is an average and includes polls from almost a month ago. We have to take the Rasmussen with a grain of salt because it is the only recent poll. Which means it is the only one that could potentially reflect the recent surge over the past couple of weeks that Newt has had. But Ditzie is correct in pointing out that your poll is dated and so is the average above. I think Newt will fade and is just the most recent flavor of the month, but right now he is up big on Romney.

I don't take them with a grain of salt because they're recent. I disagree with their methodology. The way they word questions to garner a specific response.
 
Such a big difference in forty-eight hours? Just what did Newtie do over the last two days, I must have missed it.

As SF pointed out, you posted an RCP AVERAGE (Are you familiar with the word?) Which was taken over the course of a month, so a month is slightly longer than 48 hours. In the past month, Newt has virtually slaughtered everyone in every debate, and has steadily gained ground, to bring him to where he is now, which is 21% higher than Romney, and the largest lead of any candidate to date.

Rasmussen does claim a +/- 4% margin of error, which means that Newt may only be leading Romney by 13% instead of 21%, but it's still pretty significant, considering Newt was polling in the single digits just last month.
 
Here is what I see.... Mitt Romney ALWAYS comes across as some guy who is trying to convince me he is really conservative, even though he has to constantly defend his non-conservative actions. Newt ALWAYS comes across as a statesman, who knows policy better than anyone in the room, and has well-articulated and thought out answers to the issues and solutions to the problems. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with their religious convictions, I really don't care about that, as long as they aren't like Obama, worshiping black liberation theology with Rev. Wright, Goddamning America... or better yet, a Godless piece of scum Atheist. Hell, I'd go with a fucking Scientologist over that shit!


The thing about Romney's "non-conservative actions" is what doesn't make sense to me. What has he supported that Newt hasn't?
 
What it's going to be the end of, is Keynesian Liberal policies that do not work.

Oh, and Obama's re-election is not likely, even if the GOP nominates Mitt Romney's DOG!

Your prediction hartens me, you are always WRONG!
 
I don't take them with a grain of salt because they're recent. I disagree with their methodology. The way they word questions to garner a specific response.

If the 2012 GOP Primary were held today would you vote for Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann or Jon Huntsman.

That's the question they asked. Doesn't look like it is designed to garner a specific answer to me, maybe you can show us where you see this?
 
By the way, here's are quotes from Republicans about a potential Newt nomination:

“Winning the presidency is all about discipline, focus, and organization,” said one Republican Insider, “none of which are strong suits for Gingrich.”

“With Newt, we go to bed every night thinking that tomorrow might be the day he implodes,” said another Republican. “Not good for our confidence - or fundraising.” A third Republican stated plainly, “Gingrich is not stable enough emotionally to be the nominee — let alone, the president.”

“Bigfoot dressed as a circus clown would have a better chance of beating President Obama than Newt Gingrich, a similarly farcical character,” quipped a Republican.

“Come on,” sighed another GOP Insider, “the White House is probably giving money to Gingrich as we speak.”


The insiders and money people don't want Newt, just the nutters.




http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/12/insiders-not-so.php
 
Do you really think Americans will elect someone who represents the 1%? How can Republicans run on their record when it's clear they are responsible for the 2nd Great Republican Depression? The only way they can hope to have a chance, no matter who Faux and wall street decide is their candidate, is to deluge the airways with billions of dollars of Koch and Chinese slush money with negative ads and propaganda lies.
 
The thing about Romney's "non-conservative actions" is what doesn't make sense to me. What has he supported that Newt hasn't?

Oh, I don't know, I was just commenting on how he comes across. Every time I see Romney speak, he seems like he is trying to convince me, trying to sell me on his candidacy. He seems defensive, like he is having to explain his positions, trying to convince me he is really a conservative, even though he may have done this or that which wasn't really conservative. Newt isn't doing that. He admits he has made some mistakes, and he has articulated his ideas in a way that doesn't make me feel like he's trying to sell me a used car.

Now it may very well be, that Romney and Newt have taken the exact same position on every issue, I don't know... but it's how they come across. I think the GOP is better off with someone who can stand up there and confidently present a conservative message, and not someone who thinks he has to justify himself or convince people he is sincere.
 
Oh, I don't know, I was just commenting on how he comes across. Every time I see Romney speak, he seems like he is trying to convince me, trying to sell me on his candidacy. He seems defensive, like he is having to explain his positions, trying to convince me he is really a conservative, even though he may have done this or that which wasn't really conservative. Newt isn't doing that. He admits he has made some mistakes, and he has articulated his ideas in a way that doesn't make me feel like he's trying to sell me a used car.

Now it may very well be, that Romney and Newt have taken the exact same position on every issue, I don't know... but it's how they come across. I think the GOP is better off with someone who can stand up there and confidently present a conservative message, and not someone who thinks he has to justify himself or convince people he is sincere.


I guess I'd have a hard time choosing the "most sincere" as between Mittens and Newt, too. They're both smarmy as hell.
 
It's very interesting to me... Why did Republicans drop Cain due to extramarital affairs and go directly to Newt who is the king of extramarital affairs?
 
Bush isn't running for President.

So your claim is Obama has not sent any American soldiers to their deaths? I think you might want to think over that emotionally charged statement. You're not going to be able to defend it.

I never said he didn't, are you projecting again? In any case bush is responsible for thousands more deaths than Obama. Furthermore, I never defended Obama for keeping us in Iraq, I criticized him for it.

Now let's move on to golf games and compare the hours spent on the course to the hours spent in Crawford cutting brush. And don't forget to factor in the travel costs.
 
The question wording is fine. Rasmussen's issue is always the likely voter screen he uses.

This is what I'm talking about. Maybe "wording" wasn't the right.. word.

A number of polls regularly track approval ratings for the president and other key figures. Most polling firms, including Gallup, ask simply if the respondent approves or disapproves of job performance. But political polling firm Rasmussen Reports breaks out approval and disapproval into subcategories to allow respondents to qualify their answer to indicate whether they "strongly" or "somewhat" approve or disapprove of the president.

That distinction seems to make the "somewhat" category look like a moderate option, prompting some people who might otherwise register as approvers to disapprove, say polling experts. That makes job ratings for the president look worse under Rasmussen's lens than under other pollsters'. In fact, the founder of Rasmussen Reports, Scott Rasmussen, recognizes this phenomenon. Last November, he even ran a test to demonstrate this effect. When offered just two options, more people approved of Mr. Obama's performance than disapproved. When offered Rasmussen's standard four options, the disapprovers won out.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575510272945083114.html

Edit: I understand this particular example is about presidential approval ratings but think it carries over to questions on other issues, also.
 
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It's very interesting to me... Why did Republicans drop Cain due to extramarital affairs and go directly to Newt who is the king of extramarital affairs?


Because, apparently, Newt has the Ralph Reed seal of approval. Well, at least according to Damo.
 
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...election_2012_republican_presidential_primary

In a national poll released today, Rasmussen is showing Newt Gingrich ahead of Mitt Romney by an astonishing 21%

Newt 38%
Mittens 17%

Others in single digits.


Newt's 38% is the largest national lead obtained to date by any of the GOP candidates.
The only conclusion one can draw from that, given Rasmussens bias, is that the far right wing of the Repelican party perfers Gingrich to Romney.
 
This is what I'm talking about. Maybe "wording" wasn't the right.. word.

A number of polls regularly track approval ratings for the president and other key figures. Most polling firms, including Gallup, ask simply if the respondent approves or disapproves of job performance. But political polling firm Rasmussen Reports breaks out approval and disapproval into subcategories to allow respondents to qualify their answer to indicate whether they "strongly" or "somewhat" approve or disapprove of the president.

That distinction seems to make the "somewhat" category look like a moderate option, prompting some people who might otherwise register as approvers to disapprove, say polling experts. That makes job ratings for the president look worse under Rasmussen's lens than under other pollsters'. In fact, the founder of Rasmussen Reports, Scott Rasmussen, recognizes this phenomenon. Last November, he even ran a test to demonstrate this effect. When offered just two options, more people approved of Mr. Obama's performance than disapproved. When offered Rasmussen's standard four options, the disapprovers won out.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575510272945083114.html


I was commenting only on this particular poll. You are certainly correct that many of his other polls, like the above and many of the issue or policy polls that he does, are suspect.
 
No you fucking dildo brain, I never claimed any such thing. I made a sarcastic comment based on what SOME Christians believe about Catholicism not being Christianity. You attributed my sarcastic comment to what I personally believe, and I corrected you in that thread. But since you are such a pathetic and dishonest piece of dog shit, you can't seem to get it through your head, and here you are, promoting a goddamn lie. But again, Jughead, we are used to this from you, it's all you ever do, day in and day out. Now, run along and go stick your head back up The Obamalama's ass, he misses you!

You are full of shit Ditzie, not only did you make the claim, you continued trying to debate it and stuck to your guns. Only after you got your ass kicked on the topic did you start pretending you were 'just joking'.
 
It's because Newt said that he was really sorry but it wasn't for him to actually live morally, it was up to him to tell others how to live morally.

Which btw, is what Newt said, but Damo heard that as "repenting" and says that all of the religious nutballs love when you grovel and plead for mercy after a good fucking. One thing they really hate is when someone lies back, lights a cigarette, and smiles after one of those. You gotta say you're sorry!

Anyway, that's what Damo told me. So I don't know.
 
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