This is Not Going To End Well For Some Occupiers

I'm not thrilled with the info on the cops being posted. But hacking the FLorida Family Association is hilarious to me. Hopefully word will get out that the group's server is not secure and the donations will dry up.
 
Alias said:
This is just not cool, and it shows how nasty the left can be. There will definitely be some busted heads and I have no sympathy for them. They crossed the line.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/20/hackers-post-cops-personal-data-online/
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I guess you missed this poll I posted that claims 70% of occupiers are Independent. Or does independent mean "the left" in your book?

Who’s Occupying Wall Street?

• 23.5%...........Under 25
• 44.5%...........25–44
• 32%..............Over 45
• 70.2%...........Independent
• 27.4%...........Democrat
• 2.4%.............Republican

Visitors to occupywallst.org, measured by Baruch College, as of Oct. 21–22

http://www.parade.com/news/what-a-ye...e-Numbers.html
 
christiefan915 said:
I guess you missed this poll I posted that claims 70% of occupiers are Independent. Or does independent mean "the left" in your book?

Who’s Occupying Wall Street?

• 23.5%...........Under 25
• 44.5%...........25–44
• 32%..............Over 45
• 70.2%...........Independent
• 27.4%...........Democrat
• 2.4%.............Republican

Visitors to occupywallst.org, measured by Baruch College, as of Oct. 21–22

http://www.parade.com/news/what-a-ye...e-Numbers.html
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Independent doesn't necessarily mean neutral. There are independent liberals and conversatives on this board for example who are not registered to either D's or R's. I've spent time at both Occupy Oakland and Occupy San Francisco and it is not that difficult to tell these are not your more conservative leaning citizens.
 
Alias said:
This is just not cool, and it shows how nasty the left can be. There will definitely be some busted heads and I have no sympathy for them. They crossed the line.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/20/hackers-post-cops-personal-data-online/
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it is not good to post leo information

and it is not good for police to bash people

however, two wrong do not make a right

also, the police should not take out on the occupy movement actions of people that are not occupiers either

what a mess
 
posting the information online is alot better than the alternative at this point, though I do see the violence increasing as the occupiers wake up and realize the cops don't fucking care about their protests, only following the orders of their superiors. wait til it comes to firearms on both sides. can you say kent state on a national scale?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
posting the information online is alot better than the alternative at this point, though I do see the violence increasing as the occupiers wake up and realize the cops don't fucking care about their protests, only following the orders of their superiors. wait til it comes to firearms on both sides. can you say kent state on a national scale?
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unfortunately, it may come to armed resistance, i hope not, but there is too much inequity in our system for the peons to accept, too many remember being free, like me

having to show my papers in some state because one of the bullies decides to pull me over - what excrement

i will drive around such states from now on, until these unconstitutional laws get revoked
 
cawacko said:
Independent doesn't necessarily mean neutral. There are independent liberals and conversatives on this board for example who are not registered to either D's or R's. I've spent time at both Occupy Oakland and Occupy San Francisco and it is not that difficult to tell these are not your more conservative leaning citizens.
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Yes, I get that but alias would have everyone think that the 70% applied to liberals.
 
Don Quixote said:
unfortunately, it may come to armed resistance, i hope not, but there is too much inequity in our system for the peons to accept, too many remember being free, like me

having to show my papers in some state because one of the bullies decides to pull me over - what excrement

i will drive around such states from now on, until these unconstitutional laws get revoked
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the major problem for people like us, standing on our principles and the rule of law, is that we are going to be judged by public policy. people like mott will be able to cajole, persuade, support, defend, or ignore the government as they oppress us for things that used to be legal, but are now considered bad public policy.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
the major problem for people like us, standing on our principles and the rule of law, is that we are going to be judged by public policy. people like mott will be able to cajole, persuade, support, defend, or ignore the government as they oppress us for things that used to be legal, but are now considered bad public policy.
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do you group me in that category or do you understand my stand on the constitution and law
 
Damocles said:
Way to support the 99%... Make them targets!

:rolleyes:
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i have spent a goodly portion of my life trying not to be a target, but i am one of the 99%

my children are grown and i no longer need to protect them personally (i taught them all how to shoot) so it is time for me to stand with the 99%ers

my health is such that i have difficulty moving far without a walker or wheelchair and the cold gets to me, but if it comes to armed resistance, then so be it,, i will reclaim my 30-06 and 9 mm from my older boy and man the lines
 
WinterBorn said:
I'm not thrilled with the info on the cops being posted. But hacking the FLorida Family Association is hilarious to me. Hopefully word will get out that the group's server is not secure and the donations will dry up.
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I see your point.....maybe we can double up on the amusement if someone does the same for Planned Parenthood's data file........I feel a chuckle coming on already......
 
cawacko said:
Independent doesn't necessarily mean neutral. There are independent liberals and conversatives on this board for example who are not registered to either D's or R's. I've spent time at both Occupy Oakland and Occupy San Francisco and it is not that difficult to tell these are not your more conservative leaning citizens.
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Independent isn't supposed to mean neutral. Independent means that you are NOT a partisan hack, and can vote for Dems, Repubs, a third party, or a write in vote. Independent doesn't necessarily mean conservative....but then neocons are NOT your daddy's conservatives.
 
Since the cops in various states "busted head" first, these people are responding the best they can WITHOUT resorting to molotov cocktails and gang fights. Bottom line: you push people up against a wall, and eventually some are going to start swinging back.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Independent isn't supposed to mean neutral. Independent means that you are NOT a partisan hack, and can vote for Dems, Repubs, a third party, or a write in vote. Independent doesn't necessarily mean conservative....but then neocons are NOT your daddy's conservatives.
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I don't think being a registered Independent precludes one from being a partisan hack. One can be an independent and be more to the left of the Democrats or more to the right of Republicans or they could vote straight party line as if they were a member of that party. I am a registered Republican but have voted for non-Republicans. I can't imagine I'm the only one. I've also wanted to switch my registration to Independent and Libertarian at various points in time but never did because I was too lazy to do so.

But after visiting two different occupy camps and watching others on the news I don't think it is a stretch to say there is a more liberal than conservative lean among those who are occupying.
 
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