CYNIC responses:
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FACT: it's not against the law to follow somebody, or even ask "hey, what are you doing here?"
No one said it was ….. the problem here is that you had a citizen call 911 regarding a suspected criminal (one of which he alluded to might be carrying a weapon). When he was told that the cops were on the way and that it was not necessary to continue to follow the suspect, Zimmerman said “Okay”, and then continued to act to the contrary. THAT runs into a legal question as to whether Zimmerman was in violation of the Neighborhood Watch rules (carrying a gun), or as to whether his going against the directions of the police dispatch (directions meant to AVOID the very incident that occurred). might have led to the deadly encounter (possible manslaughter).
There is no legal questions...we don't even know IF he was acting in his capacity of neighborhood watch and he has a valid permit to carry.
neighborhood watch rules don't amount to a hill of beans legally....
The police dispatch did not DIRECT or ORDER him to anything, and thats an undeniable fact.
FACT: even if we are to assume your stipulation that he continued to follow martin is true, that does not negate the claim of self defense.
Don’t try to distort/rewrite what I said or the chronology of the events. The police dispatch exchange was not “my stipulaltion”, but a bonafide FACT. Zimmerman CONTINUED to follow Martin AFTER he reported that Martin was “running away”…phone records show Martin talking to his girl friend, saying how he was walking away “fast”, instead of running…right up to when Zimmerman confronts him. When you initiate a confrontation, you can’t suddenly yell foul when losing said confrontation.
Walking away fast or running away? Pretty subjective ...and that may be the very reason GZ did follow the kid
There is no proof that GZ initated any confrontation....his version of events state exactly the opposite....
FACT: not everyone just hangs around with blood all over their face. it's pretty standard to wipe it off.
FACT: blood wont neccesarily show on DARK CLOTHES from 6-10 feet away as the camera was
FACT: a busted, bloody nose does NOT miraculously disappear no matter how good the EMT crew is. Gauze, stitches, dried blood around the wound, bruises around the nose and eyes, would be a result…..NONE of which was evident on the pics that CLEARLY show Zimmerman’s face. The time line does NOT allow for this miraculous clean up even if it did occur, and there has been NO subsequent filing of such damages with the local hospital.
Its reported that Zimmerman went to the hospital the next day...and we don't know the outcome, treatment or diagnosis .... that means you should stfu until you do know the facts ....what a video DOES NOT show is irrelevant....it doesn't show the moon shining either. Are we to deduce it was daytime?...Pretty stupid to draw conclusions from something you don't see other than it wasn't shown....
FACT: zimmermen was not officially part of the neighborhood watch
Then he had NO RIGHT to be patrolling around the neighborhood with a loaded gun acting like a cop or a security agent. That is why the police work WITH neighborhhood watch organizations and set up RULES…so they avoid incidences like this one! The CCWP is for protection, NOT an automatic deputization. Back to square one regarding the 911 dispatch call (s).FACT: Zimmerman was arrested for a confrontation with a cop (non-violent) and did community service time to expunge that record. He also was instructed by a judge to stay away from his ex-girlfriend (and visa versa) after an altercation that landed them before the court. Why was this man issued a CCWP?
He had as much right to be where he was as the kid did....with or without his gun....Zimmermans earlier confrontation with cops is as irrelevant as the kids suspendion from school for suspected drug possession....
FACT: you have some bizarre logic in your head if you think people should not be allowed to have a CCWP for unspecified NON-VIOLENT encounters.
YOU obviously have some sort of reading comprehension problem, because Zimmerman’s court appearances were of quite a SPECIFIC nature……one was to AVOID VIOLENCE OF AN ESCALATING DOMESTIC SQUABBLE….the other was his interefering with a police officer in the performance of his duty….which got him community service to expunge the arrest record. Hell, people are denied JOBS because they got caught smoking ONE joint in college, but a clown with temperment problems gets a CCWP? And that makes sense to you?
Again...all irrelevant to this matter as is Martins problems with authorities...his getting a permit to carry is a different issue, fact is....he did have it.
FACT: the "lead detective" is merely one person in the cog of the machine, many other "high up officials" have reservations about charging him. Do they get any credit from you as well? Or do you only give credit to those that agree with you?
This wasn't even hard.
Nothing is hard for you if you leave out or dismiss or downplay ALL the FACTS. Bottom line: the “cog” you refer to was the chief detective….HE wasn’t buying Zimmerman’s tale based on the evidence, and filed an affidavit. Yet the State Attorney and Chief of Police who ran interference/denial of Zimmerman’s arrest have BOTH removed/recused themselves AFTER they got Zimmerman off the hook. So one “cog” does his job, then the “high-up” officials do a hit & run against him. Why? VERY suspicious, given the EVIDENCE..which warrants an official arrest and investigation, whether you like it or not.
