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Very good article....certainly a lot of details about both men, at least I had not heard before.....
Several Questions about the Trayvon Martin Case...
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Very good article....certainly a lot of details about both men, at least I had not heard before.....
Then I mis-understood it.....he made it sound like this was just common behavior ..... I can see it as the acception to the rule....
The Wiki page also has a plethora of information that I hadn't had.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
my question is, why cannot you folks let the justice system run its course, we are not going to get anything other than self serving statements or questions
and if there is a plea deal, we may never know
all of the rest is idle speculation and hyperbole
what are the facts
has anyone testified under oath, been cross examined
we are just ricocheting off of each other feeding our own beliefs and snippets of information, none of it corroborated
and if there is a plea deal, we may never know
all of the rest is idle speculation and hyperbole
what are the facts
has anyone testified under oath, been cross examined
we are just ricocheting off of each other feeding our own beliefs and snippets of information, none of it corroborated
All witness statements are under oath, you sign at the bottom that you swear or affirm under penalty of perjury that your statements are true to the best of your knowledge.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Really?
REALLY?!
Questioning Martin's innocence?
How about bravo...USF...SF...webbway...granule...YOU?
You've all insinuated at one time or another that Martin might be responsible.
I have no conclusion on this particular case at all and have no overt or covert need to question the innocence of anybody but that of the person charged. Finding out what happened on that night is paramount to making such a conclusion, my questions on this were for clarity, not for "blame". They were questions, not assertions. There is a reason for that.
I may not be prepared, as many seem to be, to declare the guilt of the accused, but that doesn't mean I believe Trayvon was "guilty" of anything at all.
thank you for the cortrections
a witness statement is something that hangs by itself without cross examination or context
what i would like to see is a copy of the discovery statements from the prosecution to the defense, but we will have to hope for a trial where things are brought out in an orderly manner
yes, i too am impatient and wish the whole thing were over
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
WHAT??
We're not talking about the community; but instead his family.
Are you saying that his father, who's house he was staying at, wouldn't even take the time to pick up the freaking phone and ask HIS SON where he was?
I never realized, until now, that being an irresponsible parent was now a defense.
Especially after he was supposed to be just going to the store.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
I'd like to see Martin's phone recoreds of that night, just to see if his father even attempted to call him; when he didn't return home, after JUST going to the store.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Damo, give it up on the "depraved mind" in Florida it means the same thing as disregard for human life.
Murder with a Depraved Mind
Murder with a Depraved Mind occurs when a person is killed, without any premeditated design, by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life.
I.E. Depraved mind = Showing No Regard For Human Life.
On can certainly argue that Zimmerman had no regard for Trayvon's life. It's up to a prosecutor to prove that beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law.
And I keep asking. Do you believe that there will be enough evidence to prove that he had no regard for human life?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
True. Like I said. About the only real facts we have is that Zimmerman confronted Trayvon and that he shot and killed Trayvon. We know nothing, for a fact, which happened between those two events. I am very open minded about this case, even if I am unsympathetic with Mr. Zimmerman.
It will come down to who is more believable and if his statements match up with the evidence. The girlfriends statement doesn't match Zimmermans.
We do not know that Zimmerman confronted Trayvon. In fact, from the statements it is not true. He failed to find him and was returning to his car when he was confronted by Trayvon from the statements I have read, including that of the girlfriend who was on the phone. Trayvon spoke first saying something like, "Do you have a problem with me?" and Zimmerman answered, "What are you doing here?"... At that point her statement said she lost the phone contact.
It does. She said in her statement that Trayvon said, "Do you have a problem with me?" (or something close to that), and was answered, "What are you doing here?" by Zimmerman. At that point contact was lost.
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The Almighty
You truly are a buffoon. I have stated several times that I think Zimmerman should have manslaughter charges against him at a minimum. That is not going to stop me from correcting people like Mutt who proclaim something is 'indisputed' when in reality it is heavily disputed.
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The Almighty
The girlfriends statements are hearsay. She was not there. She only is repeating what Martin told her.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
maybe i'm misunderstanding this, but are you saying that a witness statement is unimpeachable?