catholic school refuses to play baseball against a team with a girl on it

"It wasn't that they were afraid they were going to hurt or injure her, it's that (they believe) that a girl's place is not on a field."
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If this is the case, then the kids on that team deserve to lose the shot at the championship. Granted, the quote was from the mother of the girl in question, so I'm not sure if it's the position that LOSA takes. Perhaps the parents will evaluate this mindset, and decide if this is a place where their children should go to school in the future.

Especially the parents of girls.

Personally, I think the girl is indeed in risk of getting hurt if she's playing second base. Likewise, in a close play at the plate, or on one of the bases when she's hitting.

Still, I wouldn't boycott the game. I'd simply advise the opposing team that there is a real possibility that the girl can be injured, and that we aren't going to back off on the close plays.

Then, it would be up to the girl to play, or sit out.
 
Althea said:
If this is the case, then the kids on that team deserve to lose the shot at the championship. Granted, the quote was from the mother of the girl in question, so I'm not sure if it's the position that LOSA takes. Perhaps the parents will evaluate this mindset, and decide if this is a place where their children should go to school in the future.

Especially the parents of girls.

Personally, I think the girl is indeed in risk of getting hurt if she's playing second base. Likewise, in a close play at the plate, or on one of the bases when she's hitting.

Still, I wouldn't boycott the game. I'd simply advise the opposing team that there is a real possibility that the girl can be injured, and that we aren't going to back off on the close plays.

Then, it would be up to the girl to play, or sit out.
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Perhaps girls should play on girls teams just as girls must the girls restroom and showers
 
bravo said:
Perhaps girls should play on girls teams just as girls must the girls restroom and showers
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This is a decades old debate. Perhaps the private schools don't have the funding for a girl's softball team? There was a lot of discussion about what is, and what isn't a contact sport. I believe baseball was considered 'not'.

I disagree, especially if the girl will be playing a high traffic position. I remember a fairly recent case where a boy wanted to play on a girl's team in school. I don't believe he actually WANTED to play, rather, make a statement. I think the court ruled in his favor.
 
Althea said:
This is a decades old debate. Perhaps the private schools don't have the funding for a girl's softball team? There was a lot of discussion about what is, and what isn't a contact sport. I believe baseball was considered 'not'.

I disagree, especially if the girl will be playing a high traffic position. I remember a fairly recent case where a boy wanted to play on a girl's team in school. I don't believe he actually WANTED to play, rather, make a statement. I think the court ruled in his favor.
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Good, I think if the Girl is physically capable of making the team, she should be allowed to play, vice versa.

Boys generally would think it beneath them to play on a girl's team from the insults given to other male players during practice and games.
 
Rana said:
Good, I think if the Girl is physically capable of making the team, she should be allowed to play, vice versa.

Boys generally would think it beneath them to play on a girl's team from the insults given to other male players during practice and games.
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Yes...this boy came under a lot of scrutiny, but I believe he was more about making a statement.

I don't necessarily have a problem with a girl playing on a boy's team. I wouldn't want my daughter doing it, especially in highschool.

That said, if she wants to play, she should know that she might get hurt. I'm sure she wouldn't want the boys to take it easy just because she's a girl.

2nd base is pretty high traffic, and it's quite common for a runner to purposely take out the 2nd baseman in order to break up a double play. We had girls mixed with boys in the lower levels of little league, but hs is a different animal.
 
Althea said:
Yes...this boy came under a lot of scrutiny, but I believe he was more about making a statement.

I don't necessarily have a problem with a girl playing on a boy's team. I wouldn't want my daughter doing it, especially in highschool.

That said, if she wants to play, she should know that she might get hurt. I'm sure she wouldn't want the boys to take it easy just because she's a girl.

2nd base is pretty high traffic, and it's quite common for a runner to purposely take out the 2nd baseman in order to break up a double play. We had girls mixed with boys in the lower levels of little league, but hs is a different animal.
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It is why she would have to pass the same physical fitness test. We have Somoan girls who playball here and they are as big or bigger than some of the high school male ballers.

I use to play co-ed soccur and softball, male and female got hurt.

One of my daughters played co-ed ball, the other didn't, different physical builds.
 
Rana said:
Good, I think if the Girl is physically capable of making the team, she should be allowed to play, vice versa.

Boys generally would think it beneath them to play on a girl's team from the insults given to other male players during practice and games.
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Even she wasn't physically capable of making the team, she and her supporters would be crying discrimination and gender bias as they always do....

Like women firefighters and such, that can't possibly pass the same physical tests as the men so they alter the qualifications to to accommodate their lessor

strength or stamina....it just good old fashion affirmative action.....

Can't cut the mustard ?....then we'll just skip/alter the requirements for these "special" people......
 
They forfeited because a 15 year old girl was playing 2nd base!!!!

lolol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably afraid she was actually really good.
I think it's up to her and her parents to decide if it's "safe"

Give me a break. It's not like she's trying to play in the MLB.
 
Liberal bullshit, destroying what made this country as great as it used to be.....

This is what happens in real life....
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51112

And here is how the little sweeties feel when the shoe in on the other foot

At the Division I state championships on Saturday at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, there are eight boys in the 28-swimmer field in the 50 freestyle. Although Norwood’s Higgins was ruled academically ineligible Friday and will not compete at the state meet, two of the top four seeds in the 50 freestyle are boys, giving rise to the possibility that a boy could be the girls state champion.

Sarah Hooper, a senior at Needham High who is the fourth-fastest female entrant, finds the situation difficult to swallow.

“It’s really frustrating to see how athletic directors and school administrators aren’t doing anything,” she said. “They really aren’t advocating for us. I understand there isn’t an opportunity for these boys, but it infuriates me that they can’t combine two schools’ boys to create one team or have them compete in separate heats. The way it is now, the boys are taking recognition away from girls who have worked hard and deserve it.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/s...ind-success-then-draw-ire.html?pagewanted=all
 
bravo said:
Liberal bullshit, destroying what made this country as great as it used to be.....This is what happens in real life....
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51112

And here is how the little sweeties feel when the shoe in on the other foot

At the Division I state championships on Saturday at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, there are eight boys in the 28-swimmer field in the 50 freestyle. Although Norwood’s Higgins was ruled academically ineligible Friday and will not compete at the state meet, two of the top four seeds in the 50 freestyle are boys, giving rise to the possibility that a boy could be the girls state champion.

Sarah Hooper, a senior at Needham High who is the fourth-fastest female entrant, finds the situation difficult to swallow.

“It’s really frustrating to see how athletic directors and school administrators aren’t doing anything,” she said. “They really aren’t advocating for us. I understand there isn’t an opportunity for these boys, but it infuriates me that they can’t combine two schools’ boys to create one team or have them compete in separate heats. The way it is now, the boys are taking recognition away from girls who have worked hard and deserve it.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/s...ind-success-then-draw-ire.html?pagewanted=all
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a 15 year old girl is going to destroy "What America USE to be?"
Shit, she must be really good.

What did America "use to be"?

Don't really care about the swimming situation, it seems the boys don't have a place to compete...so that's life, the girls are going to have to deal with it.
 
Althea said:
If this is the case, then the kids on that team deserve to lose the shot at the championship. Granted, the quote was from the mother of the girl in question, so I'm not sure if it's the position that LOSA takes. Perhaps the parents will evaluate this mindset, and decide if this is a place where their children should go to school in the future.

Especially the parents of girls.

Personally, I think the girl is indeed in risk of getting hurt if she's playing second base. Likewise, in a close play at the plate, or on one of the bases when she's hitting.

Still, I wouldn't boycott the game. I'd simply advise the opposing team that there is a real possibility that the girl can be injured, and that we aren't going to back off on the close plays.

Then, it would be up to the girl to play, or sit out.
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Since most girls play Softball and we all know that no one can get hurt playing softball.
They just didn't want to get beat by a girl.
And what exactly do you mean by "backing off on the close plays"?
 
Althea said:
Yes...this boy came under a lot of scrutiny, but I believe he was more about making a statement.

I don't necessarily have a problem with a girl playing on a boy's team. I wouldn't want my daughter doing it, especially in highschool.

That said, if she wants to play, she should know that she might get hurt. I'm sure she wouldn't want the boys to take it easy just because she's a girl.

2nd base is pretty high traffic, and it's quite common for a runner to purposely take out the 2nd baseman in order to break up a double play. We had girls mixed with boys in the lower levels of little league, but hs is a different animal.
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You better take another look at the AIA rules for your area; because there are specific rules covering exactly what your talking about, regarding double plays.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You better take another look at the AIA rules for your area; because there are specific rules covering exactly what your talking about, regarding double plays.
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I was going to point that out.
it's not like you go in a high-karate-kid-kick a fielder.

Not that I don't respect his POV, I understand.
 
bravo said:
Even she wasn't physically capable of making the team, she and her supporters would be crying discrimination and gender bias as they always do....

Like women firefighters and such, that can't possibly pass the same physical tests as the men so they alter the qualifications to to accommodate their lessor

strength or stamina....it just good old fashion affirmative action.....

Can't cut the mustard ?....then we'll just skip/alter the requirements for these "special" people......
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My girlfriend passed all the physical fitness for fire and safety at Ted Stevens airport ince she was 18. She became Chief and just retired last year, do you know not what you speak.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You better take another look at the AIA rules for your area; because there are specific rules covering exactly what your talking about, regarding double plays.
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Can you be more specific? I can't find the rulebook online. I know metal spikes are allowed. Granted, we may not see a player sliding 3 ft. out of the baseline like the pros, but do you honestly feel that nobody gets 'spiked' on a sliding play?
 
Althea said:
Can you be more specific? I can't find the rulebook online. I know metal spikes are allowed. Granted, we may not see a player sliding 3 ft. out of the baseline like the pros, but do you honestly feel that nobody gets 'spiked' on a sliding play?
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The big part is where it says that if the fielder has possession of the ball and is attempting to make a play, the runner must either slide, attempt to go around the fielder, or give up.
If the runner interfers with a ball being thrown, the following runner may also be called out.
IE: no intentional breaking up of a double play.
The intentional part is left to the decision of the umpire, who will decide if the runner had the opportunity to get out of the way and not interfer.

This isn't word for word; but it's close enough.

Also an "intentional" spike can and will probably result in an ejection.
There is no reason to slide with the top let sticking up
Any other baseball or softball rules you unclear on? :)
 
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