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Nomad said:
....so SUCK IT MAGAtards


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I disagree. So would Sun Tzu and Clauswitz, among other authorities on war. What that amateur on the video is saying is, in essence, that if you take out a few low-level thugs you cripple the international gang they're in. That is utter bullshit.

What Obama, and Biden for that matter, did was just the bare minimum to score political talking points while doing nothing effective.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I disagree. So would Sun Tzu and Clauswitz, among other authorities on war. What that amateur on the video is saying is, in essence, that if you take out a few low-level thugs you cripple the international gang they're in. That is utter bullshit.
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Says the amateur JPP blowhard windbag self and proclaimed foreign affairs "expert".

All talk. :blah:
T. A. Gardner said:
What Obama, and Biden for that matter, did was just the bare minimum to score political talking points while doing nothing effective.
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Whereas what trump is doing, is making himself look like a tinpot dictator and the US a laughingstock in front of the entire world.

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T. A. Gardner said:
I disagree. So would Sun Tzu and Clauswitz, among other authorities on war. What that amateur on the video is saying is, in essence, that if you take out a few low-level thugs you cripple the international gang they're in. That is utter bullshit.

What Obama, and Biden for that matter, did was just the bare minimum to score political talking points while doing nothing effective.
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Obama came into office after Bush destroyed the economy with his anti-financial regulations policy. Banks were closing. Jobs were being lost, and homes were being foreclosed. We were in a financial crisis of the right making. When Obama left, he handed over a growing and vibrant economy, which youi describe as ineffective.
Are you too young to have gone through that, or are you lying again?
 
Nordberg said:
Obama came into office after Bush destroyed the economy with his anti-financial regulations policy. Banks were closing. Jobs were being lost, and homes were being foreclosed. We were in a financial crisis of the right making. When Obama left, he handed over a growing and vibrant economy, which youi describe as ineffective.
Are you too young to have gone through that, or are you lying again?
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You conveniently forget why the housing market collapsed. That would be due to a combination of things, mostly done by Congress and government, going back as far as 1977. Central to it was a combination of subprime mortgages, changes in mortgage practices--like zero down, interest only, or allowing the use of equity in a home for second and third mortgages. These combined to create wild speculation in the housing market by investors with limited financial resources.

As with the previous S&L scandal of the 70's, it was government colluding with bigger financial institutions to do shady things in terms of regulations and law. Neither Obama or Bush, on their own had much to do with the collapse or the recovery.

One of the common things during that period was for people to buy more house than they could really afford. Buying on an ARM or interest only mortgage with zero down made it possible for those people to simply walk away from a home with little loss to themselves while the bank ate the mortgage and couldn't sell off a grossly over-priced home in a falling market. In places like California, home prices fell by up to 50% in many cases overnight.

Another common one was small investor speculation. Here, someone with a home and some cash would buy additional homes on zero interest mortgages levering their equity in the original home in a rising market. They would then rent these homes out to pay the mortgage while waiting a year or three to resell the house at a large profit. Those doing this who were caught by the bubble bursting saw their equity vanish with no way to pay off the mortgages they had. So, they let the houses go as they had no cash invested in them.

And, Obama left office with a mediocre economy and rising CPI, two reasons why a Republican was elected to replace him. Obama as a President could best be described as mediocre or run of the mill. The one memorable thing of his 8 years in office was that disaster called Obamacare.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I disagree. So would Sun Tzu and Clauswitz, among other authorities on war. What that amateur on the video is saying is, in essence, that if you take out a few low-level thugs you cripple the international gang they're in. That is utter bullshit.

What Obama, and Biden for that matter, did was just the bare minimum to score political talking points while doing nothing effective.
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The authorities on war would not approve of these actions by Trump were you have to keep going back every few months to try and finish what you started. Or where you leave the regime in place after taking out leadership.

They would see that as folly.
 
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