Trump’s “Affordability Hoax” May Doom Him

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Let's hope so, there is nothing Trump and the GOP can do to address the affordability crisis before the mid-terms?!!

Donald Trump has a difficult relationship with the truth. So it shouldn’t come as a surprise that at a time when his approval ratings on the economy are slipping into the 20s, he would double down on his insistence that the economy is actually exploding — and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. On May 4 he made an appearance at The Villages, the community in central Florida restricted to people over 55, where he told his assembled fans, “You know, it’s amazing. I come into office and I say ‘Wow, look how high these prices are,’ and the Democrats start screaming ‘Affordability! Affordability!’ They’re the ones that caused the problem! I’ll tell you one thing: They got one good line of bulls**t. That’s one thing I’ll say about ‘em.”

Those comments marked an unusual step for him: He admitted there was a problem. Yes, there was that week when he was touting himself as “THE AFFORDABILITY PRESIDENT.” But really, ever since he returned to the White House, Trump has been trying to persuade the public that what they say they’re feeling — rising prices, economic unease, anxiety about the future — is nothing more than a Democratic hoax. Now he’s just taken to throwing out nonsense about the American economy being “the hottest in the world,” his favorite line, and “roaring.”

Few believe that. The latest Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll showed that only 23% believe the president is doing a good job on the cost of living, and his approval rating on inflation fell to 27%. These numbers make his overall number on the economy — 34% — look good.

If affordability is a hoax, a whole lot of people seem to have bought into it. Despite the administration’s tiresome habit of saying that everything is Joe Biden’s fault, people have good reason to blame Trump himself for what’s happening today. The president promised to fix the economy on day one. He’s now been in office for 16 months.

When he was quizzed during the 2024 campaign about his plans to confront inflation and the cost of living, Trump always said that his tariffs would fix everything and that growth would be so strong that the federal government would be in a position to pay for everything from childcare to medical insurance for the whole country. It was absurd, of course, but a lot of people bought it. Taking him at his word that the economy over which he presided in his first term was “the greatest economy the world had ever known” — it was not — voters, then, turned against Joe Biden (and later, Kamala Harris) and Democrats in 2024 largely out of anger and frustration over inflation, which had spiked during the Covid-19 pandemic and its aftermath. Trump has only made it worse.


http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/heather-digby-parton/116964/trump-s-affordability-hoax-may-doom-him


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Let's hope so, there is nothing Trump and the GOP can do to address the affordability crisis before the mid-terms?!!

Donald Trump has a difficult relationship with the truth. So it shouldn’t come as a surprise that at a time when his approval ratings on the economy are slipping into the 20s, he would double down on his insistence that the economy is actually exploding — and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. On May 4 he made an appearance at The Villages, the community in central Florida restricted to people over 55, where he told his assembled fans, “You know, it’s amazing. I come into office and I say ‘Wow, look how high these prices are,’ and the Democrats start screaming ‘Affordability! Affordability!’ They’re the ones that caused the problem! I’ll tell you one thing: They got one good line of bulls**t. That’s one thing I’ll say about ‘em.”

Those comments marked an unusual step for him: He admitted there was a problem. Yes, there was that week when he was touting himself as “THE AFFORDABILITY PRESIDENT.” But really, ever since he returned to the White House, Trump has been trying to persuade the public that what they say they’re feeling — rising prices, economic unease, anxiety about the future — is nothing more than a Democratic hoax. Now he’s just taken to throwing out nonsense about the American economy being “the hottest in the world,” his favorite line, and “roaring.”

Few believe that. The latest Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll showed that only 23% believe the president is doing a good job on the cost of living, and his approval rating on inflation fell to 27%. These numbers make his overall number on the economy — 34% — look good.

If affordability is a hoax, a whole lot of people seem to have bought into it. Despite the administration’s tiresome habit of saying that everything is Joe Biden’s fault, people have good reason to blame Trump himself for what’s happening today. The president promised to fix the economy on day one. He’s now been in office for 16 months.

When he was quizzed during the 2024 campaign about his plans to confront inflation and the cost of living, Trump always said that his tariffs would fix everything and that growth would be so strong that the federal government would be in a position to pay for everything from childcare to medical insurance for the whole country. It was absurd, of course, but a lot of people bought it. Taking him at his word that the economy over which he presided in his first term was “the greatest economy the world had ever known” — it was not — voters, then, turned against Joe Biden (and later, Kamala Harris) and Democrats in 2024 largely out of anger and frustration over inflation, which had spiked during the Covid-19 pandemic and its aftermath. Trump has only made it worse.


http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/heather-digby-parton/116964/trump-s-affordability-hoax-may-doom-him


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Fuck you asshole. You supported the assassination of your president so, fuck you?
 
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Part of Trump's problems is his blatant use of hyperbole. When he says I can end the Ukrainian war overnight and it is still going on now, he has something to answer for. When he says I can drop food prices in a day, and they are climbing, after 1 and a half years, you have to wonder why he said such a thing. Trump has such teenage thinking. His exaggerated talk is not acceptable from a president.
 
Let's hope so, there is nothing Trump and the GOP can do to address the affordability crisis before the mid-terms?!!
What 'affordability crisis'? Why is your inability to make money have anything to do with Trump?
Donald Trump has a difficult relationship with the truth. So it shouldn’t come as a surprise that at a time when his approval ratings on the economy are slipping into the 20s,
Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not data, Hater.
 
Part of Trump's problems is his blatant use of hyperbole. When he says I can end the Ukrainian war overnight and it is still going on now, he has something to answer for. When he says I can drop food prices in a day, and they are climbing, after 1 and a half years, you have to wonder why he said such a thing. Trump has such teenage thinking. His exaggerated talk is not acceptable from a president.
Food prices aren't climbing, Sybil. You are hallucinating again.
 
Food prices aren't climbing, Sybil. You are hallucinating again.
Calling it hallucination doesn’t change the numbers. The official inflation data shows food prices are still higher than before, the rate slowed, the prices didn’t drop. If you’re going to dismiss someone, at least check the math first.
 
Calling it hallucination doesn’t change the numbers. The official inflation data shows food prices are still higher than before, the rate slowed, the prices didn’t drop. If you’re going to dismiss someone, at least check the math first.
A hallucination is not numbers. Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not data. Inflation does not measure food prices. You deny mathematics.
 
Good thing you put a question mark there... of course there is. If Iran has been effectively dealt with by then the "feels" of the multitudes will be different.
 
Hello Nordberg,

Part of Trump's problems is his blatant use of hyperbole. When he says I can end the Ukrainian war overnight and it is still going on now, he has something to answer for. When he says I can drop food prices in a day, and they are climbing, after 1 and a half years, you have to wonder why he said such a thing. Trump has such teenage thinking. His exaggerated talk is not acceptable from a president.

It is not acceptable to a rational mind but the emotional cult does not possess critical thinking. It's shameful what they support.
 
A hallucination is not numbers. Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not data. Inflation does not measure food prices. You deny mathematics.

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1. Inflation does include food prices — this is a factual matter.

Authoritative economic sources (BLS, Federal Reserve) define inflation as the overall increase in prices across a basket of goods, which includes:

  • Food
  • Housing
  • Energy
  • Transportation
  • Medical care
  • Other consumer goods
The Consumer Price Index (CPI) — the most commonly cited inflation measure — has a Food index built directly into it.

So the claim “inflation does not measure food prices” is factually incorrect.

This is not a debate position — it’s a definitional error.


2. “Random numbers are not data” — irrelevant to the claim.​

I cited official inflation data, which is:

  • Collected by the Bureau of Labor Statistics
  • Based on structured price sampling
  • Published monthly
  • Publicly verifiable
Calling official CPI data “random numbers” is not a factual rebuttal — it’s a dismissal without evidence.

This is a classic Argument of the Stone: rejecting a claim as absurd without addressing it.


3. “Hallucination” vs. “numbers” — your point stands.​

I stated:

food prices are still higher than before; the rate slowed, the prices didn’t drop.
This is consistent with how inflation works:

  • Inflation rate slowing = prices rising more slowly
  • Disinflation ≠ price decreases
  • Deflation = price decreases (not what’s happening)
My statement matches standard economic definitions.
 
What 'affordability crisis'? Why is your inability to make money have anything to do with Trump?

Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not data, Hater.
Furthermore, this so-called "affordability crisis" was caused by Bidenflation. And what exactly are Democrats doing to address this? Seems to me their only platform is still MAGA bad, and bigger government. The latter of which will only serve to exacerbate any "affordability crisis". It's also no surprise that libs are actually hoping for the suffering of the American people.
 
Furthermore, this so-called "affordability crisis" was caused by Bidenflation. And what exactly are Democrats doing to address this? Seems to me their only platform is still MAGA bad, and bigger government. The latter of which will only serve to exacerbate any "affordability crisis". It's also no surprise that libs are actually hoping for the suffering of the American people.
$5 a gallon gas was NOT caused by Biden this time.
YOU morons can't keep trying to blame Biden for everything TRUMP does.
 
Good thing you put a question mark there... of course there is. If Iran has been effectively dealt with by then the "feels" of the multitudes will be different.
Define "effectively dealt with" , as Trump is likely to walk away from this and Iran may well be in a stronger position after than they were before he started this mess and get a better deal than the one he tore up because Obama did it.

But we all know magats will call it the best deal eva.
 

Inflation does include food prices — this is a factual matter.

Inflation is not caused by food prices. Go learn what 'fact' means, Zombie.
Authoritative economic sources (BLS, Federal Reserve)
False authority fallacy.
define inflation as the overall increase in prices across a basket of goods, which includes:
Nope. Inflation is the devaluation of a currency. No more, no less
2. “Random numbers are not data” — irrelevant to the claim.

Okay. So your random numbers are irrelevant. I already said this.
I cited official inflation data, which is:
No such 'data'. Inflation is the devaluation of a currency. That is all it is.
Calling official CPI data “random numbers” is not a factual rebuttal — it’s a dismissal without evidence.
Go learn what 'fact' means. Random numbers are not data. It matters not whether the numbers are 'official' or not. Authoritative fallacy.
This is a classic Argument of the Stone: rejecting a claim as absurd without addressing it.
Fallacy fallacy. I already addressed it. Random numbers are not data.

3. “Hallucination” vs. “numbers” — your point stands.
Void argument fallacy.
This is consistent with how inflation works:

  • Inflation rate slowing = prices rising more slowly
  • Disinflation ≠ price decreases
  • Deflation = price decreases (not what’s happening)
My statement matches standard economic definitions.
Redefinition fallacy (inflation rate<->price discovery).

Inflation is not prices at all, Zombie. Inflation is the devaluation of a currency. That is it. That is all.

Food prices are not going up.
 
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