$11.50 minimum wage?

ken, what should a 16 year old kid working part-time at an ice cream shop during the summer earn per hour?
 
ken, what should a 16 year old kid working part-time at an ice cream shop during the summer earn per hour?

Those norms you have engraved in your idiot neocon brain emerged in a time when the nation was doing well. Now we've been destroyed by globalization and the economy is in the shitter. We have to adjust to that new reality, as a society, and in our hearts.

You can stay divorced from reality in your "only teenagers working for movie money work fast food jobs" delusion, if you prefer that. Or you can snap to reality, and quit being a douchebag, all in one prescient realization.
 
Those norms you have engraved in your idiot neocon brain emerged in a time when the nation was doing well. Now we've been destroyed by globalization and the economy is in the shitter. We have to adjust to that new reality, as a society, and in our hearts.

You can stay divorced from reality in your "only teenagers working for movie money work fast food jobs" delusion, if you prefer that. Or you can snap to reality, and quit being a douchebag, all in one prescient realization.

Make it $60/hr or nothing
 
Oh for Pete's sake, will you shove that living wage bullshit up your ass?
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ken, what should a 16 year old kid working part-time at an ice cream shop during the summer earn per hour?

What difference does one's age have to do with it. Ice Cream costs nearly $5 a cone! should the person who creates about 20-30 cones an hour be paid less than enough to buy two cones? Really? No matter how old they are they are creating value and making a huge ton of profit for the owner, who is sitting on his or her ass somewhere else while the they reap the benefits of paying minimum wage to someone so that they can earn while they play! The person creating the value should be getting a fair share of the value they create.
 
What difference does one's age have to do with it. Ice Cream costs nearly $5 a cone! should the person who creates about 20-30 cones an hour be paid less than enough to buy two cones? Really? No matter how old they are they are creating value and making a huge ton of profit for the owner, who is sitting on his or her ass somewhere else while the they reap the benefits of paying minimum wage to someone so that they can earn while they play! The person creating the value should be getting a fair share of the value they create.


Here's your perfect opportunity to put liberal money, where your mouth is. :)
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?58683-Liberals-have-the-perfect-opportunity
 
What difference does one's age have to do with it. Ice Cream costs nearly $5 a cone! should the person who creates about 20-30 cones an hour be paid less than enough to buy two cones? Really? No matter how old they are they are creating value and making a huge ton of profit for the owner, who is sitting on his or her ass somewhere else while the they reap the benefits of paying minimum wage to someone so that they can earn while they play! The person creating the value should be getting a fair share of the value they create.

It is clearly obvious that you've never attempted to run a business.
 
It is clearly obvious that you've never attempted to run a business.

tons of businesses fail all the time


it is NOT this countrys job to try to SAVE everyone who starts a business.


It is this countrys JOB to insure humans can make a living and support themselves in our system
 
If your business cant operate a profit then you should fail.


If a person cant be hired by you its not our fault.

run your business better........ other businesses are managing to pay people enough to live on.
 
If your business cant operate a profit then you should fail.


If a person cant be hired by you its not our fault.

run your business better........ other businesses are managing to pay people enough to live on.



:rofl2:

You did not think that way when the goverment bailed out the auto industry. How many billions of tax payer dollars did we flush down the toilet on that deal.
 
So, no matter how many times it is explained to the left wing nuts, they will continue ranting about a 'living wage' and 'fair share'???

Both are extremely subjective terms (shocking, I know)... so tell us left wing nuts... WHAT should a living wage cover? Should a high school or college kid with NO experience be paid this 'living wage'? What should semi-skilled and skilled workers get paid based on your raise of the minimum wage?
 
What difference does one's age have to do with it. Ice Cream costs nearly $5 a cone! should the person who creates about 20-30 cones an hour be paid less than enough to buy two cones? Really? No matter how old they are they are creating value and making a huge ton of profit for the owner, who is sitting on his or her ass somewhere else while the they reap the benefits of paying minimum wage to someone so that they can earn while they play! The person creating the value should be getting a fair share of the value they create.

Are they also going to take on a 'fair share' of the RISK of running a business? Will they partake in their 'fair share' of the liabilities?
 
If your business cant operate a profit then you should fail.


If a person cant be hired by you its not our fault.

run your business better........ other businesses are managing to pay people enough to live on.

So clearly the auto bailouts were wrong.
 
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