3 state solution for the Israel Palestinian conflict.

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Jolly

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On considering this issue I was thinking maybe a 3 state solution would actually solve the problem.

An Israeli state that would be theocratic and ruled by the Sanhendrin for all Jews of faith, in keeping with the teaching in the Torah.
A Palestinian state made up of territories from surrounding areas with territories given by Egypt and Jordan to support the new state. And a 3rd secular Jewish state for all Jews that have no faith in God created somewhere else in the world.

This would allow a place for Jews that have no faith or lose their faith, yet wish to have a land for people that claim Jewish decency. A country for all Jews of faith and finally a home land for the Palestinian people.

Only question is where could we make a new secular Jewish state?
 
Jolly said:
On considering this issue I was thinking maybe a 3 state solution would actually solve the problem.

An Israeli state that would be theocratic and ruled by the Sanhendrin for all Jews of faith, in keeping with the teaching in the Torah.
A Palestinian state made up of territories from surrounding areas with territories given by Egypt and Jordan to support the new state. And a 3rd secular Jewish state for all Jews that have no faith in God created somewhere else in the world.

This would allow a place for Jews that have no faith or lose their faith, yet wish to have a land for people that claim Jewish decency. A country for all Jews of faith and finally a home land for the Palestinian people.

Only question is where could we make a new secular Jewish state?
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Nonsensical. Non practicing Jews can live in Israel right now quite happily. What we need is for the Palestinians to get the fuck out of the 5th century and recognize that Jews are here to stay and they can either get along or get killed. Their choice I guess.
 
Jolly said:
On considering this issue I was thinking maybe a 3 state solution would actually solve the problem.

An Israeli state that would be theocratic and ruled by the Sanhendrin for all Jews of faith, in keeping with the teaching in the Torah.
A Palestinian state made up of territories from surrounding areas with territories given by Egypt and Jordan to support the new state. And a 3rd secular Jewish state for all Jews that have no faith in God created somewhere else in the world.

This would allow a place for Jews that have no faith or lose their faith, yet wish to have a land for people that claim Jewish decency. A country for all Jews of faith and finally a home land for the Palestinian people.

Only question is where could we make a new secular Jewish state?
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After 15 years reading and debating and watching and listening to all parties involved, I started where your post begins and am now am convinced that the only way the dispute will be settled is if one side or the other completely defeats the other.

Google "The Hamas Charter" or "Hamas Covenant" and you'll find that the Palestinians' only acceptable solution is the elimination of Israel. No negotiated solutions. Just Jihad.

Read it for yourself.
 
Jolly said:
On considering this issue I was thinking maybe a 3 state solution would actually solve the problem.

An Israeli state that would be theocratic and ruled by the Sanhendrin for all Jews of faith, in keeping with the teaching in the Torah.
A Palestinian state made up of territories from surrounding areas with territories given by Egypt and Jordan to support the new state. And a 3rd secular Jewish state for all Jews that have no faith in God created somewhere else in the world.

This would allow a place for Jews that have no faith or lose their faith, yet wish to have a land for people that claim Jewish decency. A country for all Jews of faith and finally a home land for the Palestinian people.

Only question is where could we make a new secular Jewish state?
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Why should the Jews be expected to accept being evicted from the only home that God gave them?

Pat Boone - The Exodus Song (with lyrics)
Aug 23, 2015

“The Exodus Song” was written for 1960 film "Exodus" by Ernest Gold, who won an Oscar for the Score. The lyrics was added by Pat Boone as "This Land Is Mine" and his version charted #64 in 1961.

This land is mine
God gave this land to me
This brave, this golden land to me
And when the morning sun
Reveals her hills and plains
I see a land where children can run free
So take my hand
And walk this land with me
And walk this lovely land with me
Though I am just a man
When you are by my side
With the help of God, I know I can be strong

So take my hand
And walk this land with me
And walk this golden land with me

Though I am just a man
When you are by my side
With the help of God, I know I can be strong
To make this land our home
If I must fight, I will fight
To make this land our own
Until I die, this land is mine
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Jolly said:
On considering this issue I was thinking maybe a 3 state solution would actually solve the problem.

An Israeli state that would be theocratic and ruled by the Sanhendrin for all Jews of faith, in keeping with the teaching in the Torah.
A Palestinian state made up of territories from surrounding areas with territories given by Egypt and Jordan to support the new state. And a 3rd secular Jewish state for all Jews that have no faith in God created somewhere else in the world.

This would allow a place for Jews that have no faith or lose their faith, yet wish to have a land for people that claim Jewish decency. A country for all Jews of faith and finally a home land for the Palestinian people.

Only question is where could we make a new secular Jewish state?
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How nice christer goyim telling Israel and Jews what to do

23 state solution, Israel and 22 Arab countries, already in place
 
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I favor a six [6] state solution.

Let's give the hebes and the towelheads [ethnic slurs for dramatic effect] Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Alabama, and Mississippi.

We can help the mediation as to how to divided them.

This would accomplish a few things.

It would get the Israelis and Palestinians the hell out of the fucking Middle East desert where nobody could possibly be happy.

And we could send the trumpanzees that we exile over there instead where we won't have to think about them.

And it would give us some time to straighten out Florida which used to be a fun place when I was a younger man.
We could, for example, send DeSantis, Scott, Rubio, Gaetz, and Miss Kitty to the Middle East as well.
 
Drummie123 said:
Why should the Jews be expected to accept being evicted from the only home that God gave them?
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Which was never suggested. The Jews that believe in God and are in the Covenent with God have every right to be in Israel. The issue is with the those that have no faith in that God at all, and as such have no right to claim a God they dont believe in gave them anything. Hence of those people that want a home land, they could be given one somewhere else, but it cant be Israel. In fact God is very clear in the Torah Jews are allowed to stay on the land provided they keep the to the covenant, a Secular atheist person of Jewish decent has absolutely no intention of doing so. So while Israel was initially created as a homeland to protect Jews I don't think anything is gonna protect them from God.

There would not be half the conflicts we currently see, if Israel actually was a theocratic state that God created it to be and that also as part of that, saw all human beings as the children of God as they were created.
 
Drummie123 said:
After 15 years reading and debating and watching and listening to all parties involved, I started where your post begins and am now am convinced that the only way the dispute will be settled is if one side or the other completely defeats the other.

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Advocating genocide. Ever get the feeling you're the problem?
 
Jolly said:
Which was never suggested. The Jews that believe in God and are in the Covenent with God have every right to be in Israel. The issue is with the those that have no faith in that God at all, and as such have no right to claim a God they dont believe in gave them anything. Hence of those people that want a home land, they could be given one somewhere else, but it cant be Israel. In fact God is very clear in the Torah Jews are allowed to stay on the land provided they keep the to the covenant, a Secular atheist person of Jewish decent has absolutely no intention of doing so. So while Israel was initially created as a homeland to protect Jews I don't think anything is gonna protect them from God.

There would not be half the conflicts we currently see, if Israel actually was a theocratic state that God created it to be and that also as part of that, saw all human beings as the children of God as they were created.
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I DELETED THAT COMMENT.

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NiftyNiblick said:
I favor a six [6] state solution.

Let's give the hebes and the towelheads [ethnic slurs for dramatic effect] Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Alabama, and Mississippi.

We can help the mediation as to how to divided them.
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LET'S GIVE THEM YOUR ESTATE AND COUNTRY CLUB AS A DOWN PAYMENT, TO START.

YES?

:clink:
 
Jolly said:
Yeah ofcourse.

Where a secound new Jewish state could be made is a question.
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In it's current location is probably best.

UPDATED:SEP 1, 2018
ORIGINAL: DEC 6, 2017
Why Jews and Muslims Both Have Religious Claims on Jerusalem
The U.S. will recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital—despite a dueling claim from Palestine.


BECKY LITTLE


The matter of Israel’s capital city has long been a source of dispute. Although nearly all foreign embassies in Israel are located in Tel Aviv, the country considers Jerusalem to be its capital. Jerusalem, which is one of the oldest cities in the world, has been formally divided between Israel and Palestine for nearly 70 years, yet changed hands many other times throughout the course of its over 5,000-year history.

Israel and Palestine’s dueling claims to the city are steeped in decades of conflict, during which Jewish settlers pushed Muslim Arabs out of their homes and established the state of Israel on their land in the middle of the 20th century. But the claims are also tied to the religions of Judaism and Islam, both of which recognize Jerusalem as a holy place.

On December 6, 2017, President Donald Trump broke with previous U.S. foreign policy and announced that the U.S. would recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, effectively endorsing Israeli control of the city. On May 14, 2018, the U.S. relocated its embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv.

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are strongly tied to the ancient city, and followers of each of these religions have controlled all or part of the city over the past few thousand years. In 1,000 B.C.E., King David established Jewish control over Jerusalem. The city fell in and out of other hands during the next couple of millenia; particularly during the crusades, when Christian crusaders fought competing Christian and Muslim factions for control of the city. And between 1517 and 1917, the Ottoman Empire—whose official religion was Islam—ruled the city.
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https://www.history.com/news/why-jews-and-muslims-both-have-religious-claims-on-jerusalem
 
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