52 trillion for Pocahontas' medicare for all

Healthcare for all would eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA. Did you add those savings into your equation? The money for healthcare exists in the system. It just needs to be properly allocated. We are paying double for worse care.
The users would not have to pay healthcare premiums. Those covered would not get the terrible insurance they get at work. Warren's system is so much better in so many ways.
 
52 trillion for Pocahontas' medicare for all!

52 trillion is what America is going to pay for healthcare over the next decade whether or not her proposal is implemented.

It is simply the built-in and pre-determined cost of what it costs this nation to have health care. Irrespective of Elizabeth Warren.


The only question remaining is whether one wants to pay for health care out-of-pocket....or pay for it through tax deductions.

Altogether, Warren's plan says that total national health costs would not go up under the single-payer health proposal. Rather, all of the estimated $52 trillion in health spending over a decade would be paid via the federal government.

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/775335150/read-elizabeth-warrens-plan-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/01/elizabeth-warren-releases-plan-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all.html

And not only will it not raise taxes on the middle class, they wont even pay premiums any more !

You guessed it, tax the rich !

And she seems to be stupid enough to think they would go along with it.

I think shes been hitting the peace pipe again.

They really are a bunch of clueless morons in the Democratic Party of the Jackass. Only the most ignorant and uneducated among us thinks this idiot knows what she is bloviating about. ;)
 
Healthcare for all would eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA. Did you add those savings into your equation? The money for healthcare exists in the system. It just needs to be properly allocated. We are paying double for worse care.
The users would not have to pay healthcare premiums. Those covered would not get the terrible insurance they get at work. Warren's system is so much better in so many ways.

I rest my case; only the most ignorant and uneducated can believe this moronic bullshit. :rolleyes:
 
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^^Idiot is like a yapping chihuahua without a brain. :rolleyes:

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no one has EVER offered a solution on the right


Its just LET PEOPLE DIE


fucking sociopathic party
 
They really are a bunch of clueless morons in the Democratic Party of the Jackass. Only the most ignorant and uneducated among us thinks this idiot knows what she is bloviating about. ;)

I see it would tax Bezos 7 billion. Think hes stupid enough to just hand over 7 billion dollars ?
Never happen.
She would have better luck tricking aliens into giving up their alien health tech.
 
We have a long, long history of presidents running on dismantling and replacing our healthcare system. FDR was trying to fix it because we all knew what we have is wrong. Most of you are too young to remember from Reagan times onward, presidential candidates ran on fixing the system which all claimed would bankrupt us. What we had was there was no argument that we need to change it.
I read that FDR selected Social Security to spend his presidential capital on. He hoped to get to healthcare later.
Until rightys figured out how to manage and direct public opinion, we had in the back of our minds that we were going to fix it. It needs it badly. But Americans are now convinced that changing it could be bad. Repub rich people have managed to demonize all the countries that have public healthcare. There are people dumb enough to swallow that. There are people on this board that argue we are doing it right and it is great.
How much opinion can be moved in the wrong direction over time is impressive and terrifying.
 
Healthcare for all would eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA. Did you add those savings into your equation? The money for healthcare exists in the system. It just needs to be properly allocated. We are paying double for worse care.
The users would not have to pay healthcare premiums. Those covered would not get the terrible insurance they get at work. Warren's system is so much better in so many ways.

Yep.

My insurance at work is wonderful. Premiums are part of my compensation and my max out of pocket for a year is $1000. You do know what compensation is?
 
52 trillion is what America is going to pay for healthcare over the next decade whether or not her proposal is implemented.

It is simply the built-in and pre-determined cost of what it costs this nation to have health care. Irrespective of Elizabeth Warren.


The only question remaining is whether one wants to pay for health care out-of-pocket....or pay for it through tax deductions.


When you have something other than a left wing hack source, let me no. npr is not a valid source. It can't be trusted.
 
no one has EVER offered a solution on the right


Its just LET PEOPLE DIE


fucking sociopathic party


Since no one else besides me and my family are my responsibility, if anyone is dying because of lack of care, it's on you left wingers that claim a concern for people you're unwilling to personally help.
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/01/elizabeth-warren-releases-plan-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all.html

And not only will it not raise taxes on the middle class, they wont even pay premiums any more !

You guessed it, tax the rich !

And she seems to be stupid enough to think they would go along with it.

I think shes been hitting the peace pipe again.
You missed the bit where the current system is estimated to cost just under $52 trillion over the next 10 years.

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We have a long, long history of presidents running on dismantling and replacing our healthcare system. FDR was trying to fix it because we all knew what we have is wrong. Most of you are too young to remember from Reagan times onward, presidential candidates ran on fixing the system which all claimed would bankrupt us. What we had was there was no argument that we need to change it.
I read that FDR selected Social Security to spend his presidential capital on. He hoped to get to healthcare later.
Until rightys figured out how to manage and direct public opinion, we had in the back of our minds that we were going to fix it. It needs it badly. But Americans are now convinced that changing it could be bad. Repub rich people have managed to demonize all the countries that have public healthcare. There are people dumb enough to swallow that. There are people on this board that argue we are doing it right and it is great.
How much opinion can be moved in the wrong direction over time is impressive and terrifying.
The right has spent decades conditioning their sheep to believe whatever lies the right-wing lie machine feeds them. It has been very successful, as demonstrated by their sheep here.

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The right has spent decades conditioning their sheep to believe whatever lies the right-wing lie machine feeds them. It has been very successful, as demonstrated by their sheep here.

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The left has spent decades conditioning their sheep to think anything they want is owed to them and it's OK if someone else is forced to pay for it. You're a prime example of one of those freeloaders.
 
You missed the bit where the current system is estimated to cost just under $52 trillion over the next 10 years.

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The current system is based on the Affordable Care Act or what we all know as Obamacare. It's time to get rid of that shit and go back to what we had before it. It worked perfectly for me and my family.
 
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