65% say they are better off or the same as when President Obama took over.

lmao.... 85% say they are the same or WORSE off.

Given that most people were shitting bricks as Obama took over due to the financial meltdown... do you really think it is 'good' that 50% think they are the SAME as at that point in time and 35% think they are WORSE?
 
lmao.... 85% say they are the same or WORSE off.

Given that most people were shitting bricks as Obama took over due to the financial meltdown... do you really think it is 'good' that 50% think they are the SAME as at that point in time and 35% think they are WORSE?

I was suprised those numbers were not worse given how badly the "liberal media" pounds on the economy!

At church Sunday our spiritual leader asked who came in a car? who had a roof to sleep under last night, who had been without a meal in the past week.... She pointed out its not desperate and we should thank God for that!
 
Since 65% say it is the same then we are still in a recession.

a poll over the weekend stated that 8 out of 10 believe we are still in a recession.

Maybe they should poll small business owners, or should I say they should poll all those small business owners who have closed their doors.
 
The Republicans are so hostile to small business owners, its amazing.
 
I wish I were the same or better off......though I will admit, things are looking up since Snyder took office and Granholm left.....
 
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Obama ratings sink to new lows as hope fades



Public pessimism about the direction of the country has jumped to its highest level in nearly three years, erasing the sense of hope that followed President Obama’s inauguration and pushing his approval ratings to a record low, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

More than 60 percent of those surveyed say they disapprove of the way the president is handling the economy and, what has become issue No. 1, the stagnant jobs situation. Just 43 percent now approve of the job he is doing overall, a new career low; 53 percent disapprove, a new high.

The urgency for Obama to act is driven not just by the most recent unemployment report, which on Friday showed no job growth in August and the unemployment rate stuck at 9.1 percent, but also by the depth of the political hole in which the president finds himself. Even more than two-thirds of those who voted for Obama say things are badly off course.

Nonetheless, current trends are highly unfavorable for the president. By 2 to 1, more Americans now say the administration’s economic policies are making the economy worse rather than better. The number who say those policies have helped has been chopped in half since the start of the year. The percentage of Americans disapproving of how Obama is doing when it comes to creating jobs spiked 10 percentage points higher since July.
Of the more than six in 10 who now disapprove of Obama’s work on jobs and the economy, nearly half of all Americans “strongly” disapprove.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...s-hope-fades/2011/09/05/gIQAIytZ5J_story.html
 
What do you consider a small business?

For starters.....

Obama's New Policy to Crush Small Businesses


President Obama and his team of economic advisors are continuing their crusade against entrepreneurs and small companies that are the traditional engine to economic growth. The latest anti-business Obama policies appear in a just-released Executive Order 13495, a new rule to be enforced by the Department of Labor. This particular regulation is aimed directly at small business owners and attacks small businesses' most valuable asset--their employees.

Executive Order 13495, which will be both complicated and costly to enforce, represents just another example of Team Obama’s complete lack of understanding of the concerns of small business owners. After 15 years as a small business owner, and as the former Administrator of the U.S. General Services Administration, I've been to the circus a few times and seen all the strings connected the federal government and its indifference to the plight of small business owners. For small businesses, Executive Order 13495 is perhaps the most damaging action yet to come out of the Obama Administration.

First, in our country, a business has the freedom to hire the workers it thinks are best suited to ensure the company's success. The new Team Obama contracting rule tramples over that basic, capitalist principle by requiring any company which wins a federal contract to hire the employees that the government identifies.

This means that the government has new and expanded powers to direct the hiring, firing and promotion of employees at private companies.

Second, government contracting is challenging and intensely competitive. Profit margins are wire thin. Companies need to have the freedom to hire those whom they best believe can provide the best value to the government at the lowest cost. This new rule will make that kind of entrepreneurial freedom almost impossible as the federal government forces the company into employment and salary negotiations with persons of the government’s choice, with the government participating in the negotiation process.

Third, this new rule shows that Team Obama has no understanding of the challenges facing small businesses. Small businesses create 3 out of every 4 jobs in the United States. Small businesses are the source of much of the innovation in the United States. They are more agile because of their size and more willing to take risks.

A small business' employees are its life's blood. Successful small business leaders all understand the need to hire, retain and build a dedicated base of employees and provide them with whatever additional training is needed to give the business an edge and ability to compete. But now, in this new regulation, Obama seeks to undermine small business owners with a too-heavy, government hand that will give the government broad new powers to poach and strip a successful small business owner of its most valuable employees whenever it wishes. Raiding the employee rolls of small companies robs them of their most important asset.

Lastly, this rule shows a profound disrespect for the employee, and treats them as a kind of indentured servant or slave, chattel to be passed from one company to another without consideration of the employee's desires.

Obama's colossal ignorance of the challenges facing small businesses seems a clear sign that once again, the President just doesn’t get it. Time and again, new, burdensome regulations are heaped upon small businesses and the nation’s job creators. And yet, Obama seems simultaneously unaware of the damage he has done and continues to do, even as he issues platitudes and half-baked thoughts about the need to create jobs.

Unless I miss my guess, Obama’s big Jobs Speech is likely to be "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." The fact is, the president lacks even a basic understanding of how difficult it is to start a small business and see it grow. This disturbing anti-business trend is quickly becoming the primary Obama legacy.

Small business owners understand that creating jobs requires a system that encourages risk-taking because it makes it possible for risk takers to reap rewards. What government should do is provide regulatory relief for many of the arcane and obsolete requirements that hinder job creators.

Unfortunately, this latest executive order tells us that Obama is moving his Administration in the opposite direction and has decided to add to the regulatory thicket by making it hard for entrepreneurs and small business owners to succeed.

Creating jobs is fairly straightforward. Getting the White House to abandon union-generated ideas that stifle innovation, crush competitiveness, and condescend to small businesses—well, that's a lot harder.
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What do you consider a small business?

Are you fucking kidding me? You made the claim that Reps are hostile to small business. I am asking you to show me what YOU are referring to.

My definition is irrelevant to what YOU were referring to. 'Small business' is a subjective term. so just trot out whatever 'hostility' you were referring to.
 
I am talking about a business the size of mine... two employees, including myself.


For one, try not working for a corporation if you have high cholestrol. Its almost impossable to get insurance... My little business paid more in taxes than Exxon or GE last year!
 
I am talking about a business the size of mine... two employees, including myself.

Ok, well that is indeed a small business.

For one, try not working for a corporation if you have high cholestrol. Its almost impossable to get insurance... My little business paid more in taxes than Exxon or GE last year!

http://www.sbhi.net/florida.htm

You are an idiot. If you think high cholesterol makes it 'almost impossible' to get insurance. Also... you haven't shown me how Republicans are the ones that made you have high cholesterol.

Ok, now show me how it was Republicans that want you to pay more taxes. What Exxon and GE did or didn't pay in taxes is irrelevant. How did Reps hurt small businesses as you claimed? What policies have they enacted that hurt small businesses Jarod?
 
You can get health insurance at about 800 a month with all cardiovascular issues excluded. Republicans did not get me the cholestrol issue, but big business wants me to depend on them for health insurance its one reason Republicans are against doing away with pre-existing condidtions as an excuse to increase insurance rates.
 
THis is the responce I got from your link:


Based on the information you provided, we could not find a health plan meeting your profile and requirements. Please, refine your search criteria or call 800-261-4145 toll-free to talk to a licensed health insurance expert.
 
I was suprised those numbers were not worse given how badly the "liberal media" pounds on the economy!

At church Sunday our spiritual leader asked who came in a car? who had a roof to sleep under last night, who had been without a meal in the past week.... She pointed out its not desperate and we should thank God for that!

the liberal media is not pounding the economy, they are doing everything they can to paint the economy in the best light possible
 
George Washington University/Politico Battleground Poll conducted by the Tarrance Group (R) and Lake Research Partners (D). Aug. 28-Sept. 1, 2011. N=1,000 likely voters nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.1.



"Now, thinking about the economy: As you may have heard, President Obama is planning to propose measures aimed at creating jobs. One of these proposals may be a large scale federally subsidized nationwide construction program putting Americans back to work building roads, bridges, schools, and hospitals. With this in mind, would you favor or oppose this proposal, or are you undecided?"



Favor: 51%

Oppose: 21%


Undecided: 28%

http://pollingreport.com/budget.htm
 
I have to grin at the way the data was spun to its most positive light possible: 65% believe they are about the same, or better off than when Obama took office.

There are three categories: Better off, the same, and worse off. Better off is, of course, a good thing to be. So if people think they are doing better since Obama took office, good for them. I would question whether their higher status has a damned thing to do with Obama's policies, or if they are, rather, in spite of Obama. But still, a whole, whopping 15% of respondents think they are doing better.

Then there are the 35% who think they are worse off. That is not a good thing, no matter how you try to spin it. It means over 1/3 of the respondents think they are doing worse financially. That's over twice as many think they are worse off than better off. And, if the survey is valid, a corresponding 1/3 of our population are feeling worse off.

Then we get to the 50% who think they are about the same. Now, on the surface, that seems pretty good, or at least neutral, right? The problem is, MOST people believe they should make some progress over 2 years. How many of the individuals on this board talked with someone at one time or another who says "well, we can't afford that now, but we should be able to in a couple years." People expect progress, and we have half the country saying they are NOT experiencing progress, but rather hanging in there - and if the right questions were asked, would probably state they are BARELY hanging in there. Staying the same after more than 2 years of effort would not be a pleasing thing for most people.
 
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