A National debt of gratitude to these guys!

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
IF this story is true, then this nation (if not the world) owes these people a debt of gratitude. Note that the allegedly liberal biased main stream media barely (if at all) acknowledged this story:


Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012 08:54 AM EST
Did Anonymous stop Rove from stealing the election? It would explain his Fox News outburst, but the Hacker claim lacks evidence
By Natasha Lennard


http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/did_anonymous_stop_rove_stealing_the_election/
 
Taichiliberal said:
IF this story is true, then this nation (if not the world) owes these people a debt of gratitude. Note that the allegedly liberal biased main stream media barely (if at all) acknowledged this story:


Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012 08:54 AM EST
Did Anonymous stop Rove from stealing the election? It would explain his Fox News outburst, but the Hacker claim lacks evidence
By Natasha Lennard


http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/did_anonymous_stop_rove_stealing_the_election/
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I love Anonymous!
 
I saw this story shortly after the election. There is no proof and I don't think it is plausible. Rove was simply misled by his bias. He has been leading the right in the wrong direction for some time now.
 
Because the evidence doesn't point to that conclusion....as demonstrated by Little Karl's hissy fit on Fox. Like Florida and Ohio, Karl was SO sure that the tide would magically turn (coincidently, just as it did at the 11th hour previously).
 
SuperstringTheory said:
I saw this story shortly after the election. There is no proof and I don't think it is plausible. Rove was simply misled by his bias. He has been leading the right in the wrong direction for some time now.
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Oh it's HIGHLY plausible....just think back to when the electronic voting machines were first installed, and it was proven how easily they could be hacked into. And then you had all those people in Ohio complaining that when they hit the button for Kerry, up came Bush's name.
 
SuperstringTheory said:
OMG, are you serious?

Anonymous is not one person. It's not even one central organization. It's just a bunch of hackers that claim the name.
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Which doesn't change the rather pertinent question, why would you believe these people were perfect while attempting to blame Karl Rove for hacking the machines?

Reality: Karl has no ability to really do that, Anonymous does.
 
SuperstringTheory said:
OMG, are you serious?

Anonymous is not one person. It's not even one central organization. It's just a bunch of hackers that claim the name.
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Which doesn't change the rather pertinent question, why would you believe these people were perfect while attempting to blame Karl Rove for hacking the machines?

Reality: Karl has no ability to really do that without hiring a group of people like well.. Anonymous, Anonymous does, as they are a group of people like Anonymous.
 
Damocles said:
Which doesn't change the rather pertinent question, why would you believe these people were perfect while attempting to blame Karl Rove for hacking the machines?

Reality: Karl has no ability to really do that without hiring a group of people like well.. Anonymous, Anonymous does, as they are a group of people like Anonymous.
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You obviously don't watch Scandal.
 
Anon wouldn't vote for the SOPA/NDAA happy Obama. If they changed anything it'd be for either Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. Since neither of them won, it's safe to say Anon didn't give a damn.
 
Taichiliberal said:
IF this story is true, then this nation (if not the world) owes these people a debt of gratitude. Note that the allegedly liberal biased main stream media barely (if at all) acknowledged this story:


Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012 08:54 AM EST
Did Anonymous stop Rove from stealing the election? It would explain his Fox News outburst, but the Hacker claim lacks evidence
By Natasha Lennard


http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/did_anonymous_stop_rove_stealing_the_election/
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I like Nate Silvers response to this theory, when it was posed to him on his iama:

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Taichiliberal said:
Oh it's HIGHLY plausible....just think back to when the electronic voting machines were first installed, and it was proven how easily they could be hacked into. And then you had all those people in Ohio complaining that when they hit the button for Kerry, up came Bush's name.
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Hacked into? From where? Are these voting machines hooked up to the internet? If so, then that is indeed a bad design that pointlessly exposes it to security threats, wasteful as well, for including the hardware necessary to connect to the internet when it has no need to do so. If it's not, then no, you couldn't hack into them besides by going up to them and circumventing their security yourself, which I assume anonymous did not do.
 
Oh man, they installed a "password protected firewall", that's some serious technology there. They even gave it a code name, so you know it's good*. And instead of installing it on the computers or servers, they install it right on the tunnels themselves. Smart move - Rove's hackers probably thought they had it easy once they got past the servers, thinking all they had to do was traverse some harmless fiberoptic cables to their intended destination afterwards. But nope, the firewalls blocked them. I'd love to have seen the look on their face.

Of course, thinking about it, it's true that Anonymous is, in no way, a unified organization, and basically consists of a bunch of random lone people and groups all giving credit to "Anonymous", and that, just as well, someone could release videos and write letter claiming to have done something attributed to "Anonymous" which they hadn't actually done. But that's cynical nonsense talk. I ask you, is there any evidence to disprove their claim? Thought not. That means it's true.

*Normally, I'd be kind of scared if someone was using an off-brand firewall with an unrecongnizable name, but these guys are Anonymous after all, they know what they're doing.
 
Fluttershy said:
Hacked into? From where? Are these voting machines hooked up to the internet? If so, then that is indeed a bad design that pointlessly exposes it to security threats, wasteful as well, for including the hardware necessary to connect to the internet when it has no need to do so. If it's not, then no, you couldn't hack into them besides by going up to them and circumventing their security yourself, which I assume anonymous did not do.
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ANY system that relies on land lines is open to hacking. The voting machines use land lines, and are NOT an enclosed system. So what Anonymous claims is quite plausible.
 
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