A warning for owners of Labs, Goldens, and other Bigdumbdogs

zoombwaz

Radical Moderate Populist
I have a theory about intelligence (or lack thereof) in retrievers. Let me state unequivocally from the outset that I love Labradors, Golden Retrievers, and lab mixes. I've had a series of retrievers, and unbridled exuberance and its cousin, unfocused enthusiasm (as in, "I'M ENTHUSIASTIC!! ABOUT WHAT? WHADDAYA GOT?”) are the best terms to describe their behavior. I had a golden retriever/yellow lab mix named Callie, who used to do this odd little dance around things that made her happy, including her rawhide Cheweez. which she would throw across the room, then dance around it: lunge in, shake head, jump back, step to the side, repeat. Hysterical. My first retriever, Jason, was a purebred black lab from grand field champion stock, the kind who look like beer kegs with legs and have a big square head with a brain the size of a le Seur pea rattling around inside. I should have named him Bullwinkle, because everybody who saw him pointed in mock horror, and exclaimed, "MOOSE!" Jason was 160 pounds of solid muscle unguided by any intellect.

A friend of mine, also a black lab owner, theorized that continual proximity to labs made their owners more and more stupid, as the dogs are so goofy, they suck the IQ points right out of one's head. The only thing he couldn't figure out was why the dog didn't get any smarter. I suggested that the black lab's head was to intelligence what a black hole is to mass and energy, where the intense tidal forces from the collapsed red giant star can bend the path of light, can capture any light beam or solid object that crosses its event horizon, and can absorb an infinite amount of energy and mass.

Similar to the black hole, the black lab's head is such a perfect intellectual vacuum that it can absorb an infinite amount of intellect from those humans near it, without becoming itself more intelligent. Naturally, since the owner is in closer proximity to the dog's intellectual event horizon than the casual participant, and for far longer periods of time, he or she bears the brunt of the mentally debilitating effects. As anecdotal evidence of the theory's validity, I offer the following cautionary tale of Labrador idiocy, and yes, I know that’s redundant.


My brother Pete and i took Jason to Eldorado Canyon State Park in Colorado for an afternoon of Labrador quality time, which of course requires little more than water and something to fetch. There is a strict leash law in Colorado, such that any dog off-leash in open rangeland can legally be shot by the rancher, but the definition of what constitutes a leash is less strictly enforced. Technically, it's supposed to be no longer than 6', but we had the Moose on a 1/2" x 30' polypropylene rope and called it good. We took him up the creek, found a nice deep pool, and started throwing rocks in the pool for him to fetch. “Happy dog, happy dog. Here's your rock, boss Throw it again, c'mon, c'mon, C'MON!!” We gradually increased the size of the rocks we were throwing in, until Pete heaved one that was too big for Jason to pick up into the deepest part of the pool. He dove in after it, but couldn't pick it up, even after repeated attempts with only his hips and tail out of the water, so he got mad at the rock (duh). and started barking at it. With his head and most of his body underwater. Barking underwater. These BIG bubbles would break the surface of the water, then the big, square head would pop up, take a deep breath, and go back down to bark some more. More BIG bubbles. Pete and I were in hysterics, and he was barely able to gasp out, "Rick, your dog is really stupid." We finally stopped laughing and dragged him out with the rope before he drowned himself, and threw a stick down the trail back to the parking lot. Evil rock was forgotten immediately. “Oboyoboyoboy, A STICK!! Happy dog, happy dog.” Once back in the parking lot,we saw the lot was about ¾ full and filling slowly. Since there wasn’t anybody giving us the hairy eyeball over our parking space, we decided to have a beer before we drove home, so we tied the end of Jason’s rope to the front bumper of Pete's Toyota pick up, cracked a couple of cold ones, and sat on the hood of the truck, watching the happy dog saying hi to all his newest best friends in the world, EVER!! At this juncture, with the moose as far away to the left as his 30' of rope would allow, a car pulled in across the dirt parking lot and about 40 feet to the right. This somewhat effeminate guy got out, and put his little foo-foo dog on the ground next to his car and clipped the dog's leash to her collar. Pete and I looked at each other, said "Uh-oh" in unison, and looked to see where Jason was, just in time to see him barreling past the pickup at full speed, running to say hi to Foo-Foo, his newest best friend in the world, EVER!! Pete said, "this is gonna be ugly..." and just as he said "ugly," 160 pounds of unguided muscle hit the end of his rope at full tilt boogie...


The big square head snapped down, as the rope stopped Jason dead in his tracks, but the ass-end kept right on going, up and over the suddenly stationary big square head, and landed on its back in the dirt parking lot, raising a cloud of dust at the impact crater, and jerked the rope so hard, the front of the pickup lurched violently a foot to the right, and caused Pete and I, who were not at all prepared for said sudden lurch to the right, to fall to the left, off the hood of the truck, each landing on his back, spilling his beer on himself, and Foo-Foo, in mortal fear for her life, peed on her owner's shoe and pants leg.

A moment of silence as the dust settled around the stunned moose lying on his back, and the beer soaked into the stunned brothers lying on theirs, and the stunned crowd in the parking lot surveyed the carnage, followed by an explosion of hysterical laughter. All the witnesses to this idiocy were laughing uncontrollably, the principles, not so much. Pete looked over at me and said. "Rick, your dog is really stupid," at which point Jason arrived, having already shaken off his crash and burn, and was delighted to find his two favorite best friends in the world, EVER! lying on their backs at his level, which of course means, “THEY MUST WANT KISSES!! OBOYOBOYOBOY!” I scrambled to my feet, narrowly avoiding Pete's fate, lying flat on his back, helpless, as 160 pounds of HAPPY LAB stood on his beer-soaked chest and gave him lots of slobbery kisses, while he yelled, "Get this big shit off of me!" More hysterical laughter from the assembled multitude, this time including me...
 
I have a theory about intelligence (or lack thereof) in retrievers. Let me state unequivocally from the outset that I love Labradors, Golden Retrievers, and lab mixes. I've had a series of retrievers, and unbridled exuberance and its cousin, unfocused enthusiasm (as in, "I'M ENTHUSIASTIC!! ABOUT WHAT? WHADDAYA GOT?”) are the best terms to describe their behavior. I had a golden retriever/yellow lab mix named Callie, who used to do this odd little dance around things that made her happy, including her rawhide Cheweez. which she would throw across the room, then dance around it: lunge in, shake head, jump back, step to the side, repeat. Hysterical. My first retriever, Jason, was a purebred black lab from grand field champion stock, the kind who look like beer kegs with legs and have a big square head with a brain the size of a le Seur pea rattling around inside. I should have named him Bullwinkle, because everybody who saw him pointed in mock horror, and exclaimed, "MOOSE!" Jason was 160 pounds of solid muscle unguided by any intellect.

A friend of mine, also a black lab owner, theorized that continual proximity to labs made their owners more and more stupid, as the dogs are so goofy, they suck the IQ points right out of one's head. The only thing he couldn't figure out was why the dog didn't get any smarter. I suggested that the black lab's head was to intelligence what a black hole is to mass and energy, where the intense tidal forces from the collapsed red giant star can bend the path of light, can capture any light beam or solid object that crosses its event horizon, and can absorb an infinite amount of energy and mass.

Similar to the black hole, the black lab's head is such a perfect intellectual vacuum that it can absorb an infinite amount of intellect from those humans near it, without becoming itself more intelligent. Naturally, since the owner is in closer proximity to the dog's intellectual event horizon than the casual participant, and for far longer periods of time, he or she bears the brunt of the mentally debilitating effects. As anecdotal evidence of the theory's validity, I offer the following cautionary tale of Labrador idiocy, and yes, I know that’s redundant.


My brother Pete and i took Jason to Eldorado Canyon State Park in Colorado for an afternoon of Labrador quality time, which of course requires little more than water and something to fetch. There is a strict leash law in Colorado, such that any dog off-leash in open rangeland can legally be shot by the rancher, but the definition of what constitutes a leash is less strictly enforced. Technically, it's supposed to be no longer than 6', but we had the Moose on a 1/2" x 30' polypropylene rope and called it good. We took him up the creek, found a nice deep pool, and started throwing rocks in the pool for him to fetch. “Happy dog, happy dog. Here's your rock, boss Throw it again, c'mon, c'mon, C'MON!!” We gradually increased the size of the rocks we were throwing in, until Pete heaved one that was too big for Jason to pick up into the deepest part of the pool. He dove in after it, but couldn't pick it up, even after repeated attempts with only his hips and tail out of the water, so he got mad at the rock (duh). and started barking at it. With his head and most of his body underwater. Barking underwater. These BIG bubbles would break the surface of the water, then the big, square head would pop up, take a deep breath, and go back down to bark some more. More BIG bubbles. Pete and I were in hysterics, and he was barely able to gasp out, "Rick, your dog is really stupid." We finally stopped laughing and dragged him out with the rope before he drowned himself, and threw a stick down the trail back to the parking lot. Evil rock was forgotten immediately. “Oboyoboyoboy, A STICK!! Happy dog, happy dog.” Once back in the parking lot,we saw the lot was about ¾ full and filling slowly. Since there wasn’t anybody giving us the hairy eyeball over our parking space, we decided to have a beer before we drove home, so we tied the end of Jason’s rope to the front bumper of Pete's Toyota pick up, cracked a couple of cold ones, and sat on the hood of the truck, watching the happy dog saying hi to all his newest best friends in the world, EVER!! At this juncture, with the moose as far away to the left as his 30' of rope would allow, a car pulled in across the dirt parking lot and about 40 feet to the right. This somewhat effeminate guy got out, and put his little foo-foo dog on the ground next to his car and clipped the dog's leash to her collar. Pete and I looked at each other, said "Uh-oh" in unison, and looked to see where Jason was, just in time to see him barreling past the pickup at full speed, running to say hi to Foo-Foo, his newest best friend in the world, EVER!! Pete said, "this is gonna be ugly..." and just as he said "ugly," 160 pounds of unguided muscle hit the end of his rope at full tilt boogie...


The big square head snapped down, as the rope stopped Jason dead in his tracks, but the ass-end kept right on going, up and over the suddenly stationary big square head, and landed on its back in the dirt parking lot, raising a cloud of dust at the impact crater, and jerked the rope so hard, the front of the pickup lurched violently a foot to the right, and caused Pete and I, who were not at all prepared for said sudden lurch to the right, to fall to the left, off the hood of the truck, each landing on his back, spilling his beer on himself, and Foo-Foo, in mortal fear for her life, peed on her owner's shoe and pants leg.

A moment of silence as the dust settled around the stunned moose lying on his back, and the beer soaked into the stunned brothers lying on theirs, and the stunned crowd in the parking lot surveyed the carnage, followed by an explosion of hysterical laughter. All the witnesses to this idiocy were laughing uncontrollably, the principles, not so much. Pete looked over at me and said. "Rick, your dog is really stupid," at which point Jason arrived, having already shaken off his crash and burn, and was delighted to find his two favorite best friends in the world, EVER! lying on their backs at his level, which of course means, “THEY MUST WANT KISSES!! OBOYOBOYOBOY!” I scrambled to my feet, narrowly avoiding Pete's fate, lying flat on his back, helpless, as 160 pounds of HAPPY LAB stood on his beer-soaked chest and gave him lots of slobbery kisses, while he yelled, "Get this big shit off of me!" More hysterical laughter from the assembled multitude, this time including me...
Have you sent this in, yet? Have you heard from Jumbo. lately? How about Telstar?
 
That's pretty funny. I grew up in the country with a big black Lab named Buster. He went everywhere with me, always walked between me and the road, nearly sending me into the ditch, and basically kept me out of whatever trouble I might otherwise found myself doing. He was extremely protective of us, yet seemed to have a sixth sense as to who was a good person. He was my best pal, and I don't remember any silliness on his part at all.

Now I have a friend who has two Labs who are friendly and energetic and lots of fun. I've moved on to the herding group, but still have a very very soft spot in my heart for the big Labs.
 
I have a theory about intelligence (or lack thereof) in retrievers. Let me state unequivocally from the outset that I love Labradors, Golden Retrievers, and lab mixes. I've had a series of retrievers, and unbridled exuberance and its cousin, unfocused enthusiasm (as in, "I'M ENTHUSIASTIC!! ABOUT WHAT? WHADDAYA GOT?”) are the best terms to describe their behavior. I had a golden retriever/yellow lab mix named Callie, who used to do this odd little dance around things that made her happy, including her rawhide Cheweez. which she would throw across the room, then dance around it: lunge in, shake head, jump back, step to the side, repeat. Hysterical. My first retriever, Jason, was a purebred black lab from grand field champion stock, the kind who look like beer kegs with legs and have a big square head with a brain the size of a le Seur pea rattling around inside. I should have named him Bullwinkle, because everybody who saw him pointed in mock horror, and exclaimed, "MOOSE!" Jason was 160 pounds of solid muscle unguided by any intellect.

A friend of mine, also a black lab owner, theorized that continual proximity to labs made their owners more and more stupid, as the dogs are so goofy, they suck the IQ points right out of one's head. The only thing he couldn't figure out was why the dog didn't get any smarter. I suggested that the black lab's head was to intelligence what a black hole is to mass and energy, where the intense tidal forces from the collapsed red giant star can bend the path of light, can capture any light beam or solid object that crosses its event horizon, and can absorb an infinite amount of energy and mass.

Similar to the black hole, the black lab's head is such a perfect intellectual vacuum that it can absorb an infinite amount of intellect from those humans near it, without becoming itself more intelligent. Naturally, since the owner is in closer proximity to the dog's intellectual event horizon than the casual participant, and for far longer periods of time, he or she bears the brunt of the mentally debilitating effects. As anecdotal evidence of the theory's validity, I offer the following cautionary tale of Labrador idiocy, and yes, I know that’s redundant.


My brother Pete and i took Jason to Eldorado Canyon State Park in Colorado for an afternoon of Labrador quality time, which of course requires little more than water and something to fetch. There is a strict leash law in Colorado, such that any dog off-leash in open rangeland can legally be shot by the rancher, but the definition of what constitutes a leash is less strictly enforced. Technically, it's supposed to be no longer than 6', but we had the Moose on a 1/2" x 30' polypropylene rope and called it good. We took him up the creek, found a nice deep pool, and started throwing rocks in the pool for him to fetch. “Happy dog, happy dog. Here's your rock, boss Throw it again, c'mon, c'mon, C'MON!!” We gradually increased the size of the rocks we were throwing in, until Pete heaved one that was too big for Jason to pick up into the deepest part of the pool. He dove in after it, but couldn't pick it up, even after repeated attempts with only his hips and tail out of the water, so he got mad at the rock (duh). and started barking at it. With his head and most of his body underwater. Barking underwater. These BIG bubbles would break the surface of the water, then the big, square head would pop up, take a deep breath, and go back down to bark some more. More BIG bubbles. Pete and I were in hysterics, and he was barely able to gasp out, "Rick, your dog is really stupid." We finally stopped laughing and dragged him out with the rope before he drowned himself, and threw a stick down the trail back to the parking lot. Evil rock was forgotten immediately. “Oboyoboyoboy, A STICK!! Happy dog, happy dog.” Once back in the parking lot,we saw the lot was about ¾ full and filling slowly. Since there wasn’t anybody giving us the hairy eyeball over our parking space, we decided to have a beer before we drove home, so we tied the end of Jason’s rope to the front bumper of Pete's Toyota pick up, cracked a couple of cold ones, and sat on the hood of the truck, watching the happy dog saying hi to all his newest best friends in the world, EVER!! At this juncture, with the moose as far away to the left as his 30' of rope would allow, a car pulled in across the dirt parking lot and about 40 feet to the right. This somewhat effeminate guy got out, and put his little foo-foo dog on the ground next to his car and clipped the dog's leash to her collar. Pete and I looked at each other, said "Uh-oh" in unison, and looked to see where Jason was, just in time to see him barreling past the pickup at full speed, running to say hi to Foo-Foo, his newest best friend in the world, EVER!! Pete said, "this is gonna be ugly..." and just as he said "ugly," 160 pounds of unguided muscle hit the end of his rope at full tilt boogie...


The big square head snapped down, as the rope stopped Jason dead in his tracks, but the ass-end kept right on going, up and over the suddenly stationary big square head, and landed on its back in the dirt parking lot, raising a cloud of dust at the impact crater, and jerked the rope so hard, the front of the pickup lurched violently a foot to the right, and caused Pete and I, who were not at all prepared for said sudden lurch to the right, to fall to the left, off the hood of the truck, each landing on his back, spilling his beer on himself, and Foo-Foo, in mortal fear for her life, peed on her owner's shoe and pants leg.

A moment of silence as the dust settled around the stunned moose lying on his back, and the beer soaked into the stunned brothers lying on theirs, and the stunned crowd in the parking lot surveyed the carnage, followed by an explosion of hysterical laughter. All the witnesses to this idiocy were laughing uncontrollably, the principles, not so much. Pete looked over at me and said. "Rick, your dog is really stupid," at which point Jason arrived, having already shaken off his crash and burn, and was delighted to find his two favorite best friends in the world, EVER! lying on their backs at his level, which of course means, “THEY MUST WANT KISSES!! OBOYOBOYOBOY!” I scrambled to my feet, narrowly avoiding Pete's fate, lying flat on his back, helpless, as 160 pounds of HAPPY LAB stood on his beer-soaked chest and gave him lots of slobbery kisses, while he yelled, "Get this big shit off of me!" More hysterical laughter from the assembled multitude, this time including me...

That's hilarious. It must be in their genes. Jason sounds like the dog (a golden retriever) in Marley and Me.
 
I have never owned a dog, but if I were to ever get one, I think Golden Retrievers are pretty cool guys.

They are a wonderful breed. Smart, affectionate, energetic, and biddable if you want to train. If you decide to go that way, make sure that the grandparents are still living. Several lines of Goldens have a vulnerability to cancer. A friend of mine so sadly just lost two of his wonderful Goldens to cancers within the past two years. If you have one without this vulnerability, though, you'll have a wonderful friend for nearly 15 years.
 
My sister had a Lab-Shepard mix, the son of an earlier dog, but it looked all lab, solid black and weighed at least 140. It wasn't so dumb though and was a good protector of the family. When they moved to Virginia from Maine her husband was busy at work and one of the movers started giving her a hard time. She was all alone with 5 kids. "Barney" sensed something was up and leaped over a 4' fence like it was a curb, got between sis and the perp and just glared at him. Needless to say he furniture got moved in without a scratch.

I used to wrestle with the dog and could not pin him. One winter I was visiting them in Maine and it was a dry winter- no snow at all. They lived on a lake and I brought my skates with me and literally skated miles that weekend. Barney followed along with me for as much as he could but I had a distinct advantage in speed and grip on the ice. I tired him out and was finally able to show him who was boss and pinned him on the ice in the middle of that big lake. He was still in good humor after that proving himself was a fine friend.

They had to kennel him during a vacation trip and poor Barney thought he was abandoned I suppose, because he died of a broken heart, age 8.
 
The most important thing is that people take proper care of their dogs. Keep them from being a problem to others and such.

I shot a woman down the roads HUGE white german sheperd. I was sitting out back it came by chasing one of my cats I yelled at it and it growled at me so dead dog.
She told me she paid $500 for the dog. I told here I was sorry but she should have protected her investment better.

In KY you are allowed to shoot any dog that comes on your property and threatens or causes damage. My county also has a leash law.
 
My sister had a Lab-Shepard mix, the son of an earlier dog, but it looked all lab, solid black and weighed at least 140. It wasn't so dumb though and was a good protector of the family. When they moved to Virginia from Maine her husband was busy at work and one of the movers started giving her a hard time. She was all alone with 5 kids. "Barney" sensed something was up and leaped over a 4' fence like it was a curb, got between sis and the perp and just glared at him. Needless to say he furniture got moved in without a scratch.

I used to wrestle with the dog and could not pin him. One winter I was visiting them in Maine and it was a dry winter- no snow at all. They lived on a lake and I brought my skates with me and literally skated miles that weekend. Barney followed along with me for as much as he could but I had a distinct advantage in speed and grip on the ice. I tired him out and was finally able to show him who was boss and pinned him on the ice in the middle of that big lake. He was still in good humor after that proving himself was a fine friend.

They had to kennel him during a vacation trip and poor Barney thought he was abandoned I suppose, because he died of a broken heart, age 8.


Oh, sure. Make me cry. There's no doubt in my mind that Barney died of a broken heart.

I lost Jason to diabetes when he was 12, and I felt like i'd lost a brother. I use the term Bigdumbdog with a lot of affection and tongue firmly in cheek, like Pete uses the term Annoyingdog to describe the three Goldens he has had (and in fact was in PetSmart, wondering out loudwhere the Annoyingdog food was, and a lady down the aisle asked him how many goldens he had. I asked how she knew he had a golden, and she said, "from the 'Annoyingdog'. I have six."). Pete and i knew Jason was really a smart dog getting over on us by playing dumb, but we felt he would be bummed if he knew we knew, so we played along. He was also loyal, very protective of my daughter Erika, who absolutely adored him, and he would put up with no end of physical mauling from Erika and her cousins. He had a couple of run-ins with the dog catcher in the small town in Colorado where we lived, and the first time, I had to bail this very sad-faced dog out of the kennel, but the second time, the animal control officer called me when i got home from work, told me he had Jason but said there would be no fine, because he saw some of the "rotten little bastards" (his words) from the neighborhood let Jason out of the fenced back yard via the alley gate, so it wasn't my fault. I asked if he had any trouble catching him, and he laughed and said, "Hell, I didn't even have to get out of my truck. I just leaned over, opened the passenger door, and yelled, 'Jason! Go for a ride in the truck?' He was in the cab in about half a second, and rode with me the rest of the day. He's sleeping under my desk right now."

"I'll be right down."

"Take your time. There's no hurry...he's good company."


But as cool as Jason was, and I could go on forever with stories about him, like running around with a "stick" in his mouth (the quotes are because the "stick" in question was a 5' log about 3" in diameter) and tried to run full speed between two trees 3' apart. Stopped him cold. He dropped the stick, shook his headhttp://www.nonstick.com/wsounds/shakeup.mp3, picked up the stick and tried it again at low speed, his successor, Callie, a yellow lab/golden mix, was convinced that the world loved her, and since she was determined to love it right back, the whole world did end up loving her. When we had to have her put down when her kidneys failed, the vet and his whole staff were in tears. When i called Pete to tell him, we both cried, and i'm tearing up as we speak.
 
What a sick bastard.


No the sick bastards are the ones who do not properly care for their pets and animals. Especially those who treat pets as disposable toys to be discarded when they fail to amuse their owners.

I live out in the country where many from the city come to dump their unwanted animals off...
 
I have a theory about intelligence (or lack thereof) in retrievers. Let me state unequivocally from the outset that I love Labradors, Golden Retrievers, and lab mixes. I've had a series of retrievers, and unbridled exuberance and its cousin, unfocused enthusiasm (as in, "I'M ENTHUSIASTIC!! ABOUT WHAT? WHADDAYA GOT?”) are the best terms to describe their behavior. I had a golden retriever/yellow lab mix named Callie, who used to do this odd little dance around things that made her happy, including her rawhide Cheweez. which she would throw across the room, then dance around it: lunge in, shake head, jump back, step to the side, repeat. Hysterical. My first retriever, Jason, was a purebred black lab from grand field champion stock, the kind who look like beer kegs with legs and have a big square head with a brain the size of a le Seur pea rattling around inside. I should have named him Bullwinkle, because everybody who saw him pointed in mock horror, and exclaimed, "MOOSE!" Jason was 160 pounds of solid muscle unguided by any intellect.

A friend of mine, also a black lab owner, theorized that continual proximity to labs made their owners more and more stupid, as the dogs are so goofy, they suck the IQ points right out of one's head. The only thing he couldn't figure out was why the dog didn't get any smarter. I suggested that the black lab's head was to intelligence what a black hole is to mass and energy, where the intense tidal forces from the collapsed red giant star can bend the path of light, can capture any light beam or solid object that crosses its event horizon, and can absorb an infinite amount of energy and mass.

Similar to the black hole, the black lab's head is such a perfect intellectual vacuum that it can absorb an infinite amount of intellect from those humans near it, without becoming itself more intelligent. Naturally, since the owner is in closer proximity to the dog's intellectual event horizon than the casual participant, and for far longer periods of time, he or she bears the brunt of the mentally debilitating effects. As anecdotal evidence of the theory's validity, I offer the following cautionary tale of Labrador idiocy, and yes, I know that’s redundant.


My brother Pete and i took Jason to Eldorado Canyon State Park in Colorado for an afternoon of Labrador quality time, which of course requires little more than water and something to fetch. There is a strict leash law in Colorado, such that any dog off-leash in open rangeland can legally be shot by the rancher, but the definition of what constitutes a leash is less strictly enforced. Technically, it's supposed to be no longer than 6', but we had the Moose on a 1/2" x 30' polypropylene rope and called it good. We took him up the creek, found a nice deep pool, and started throwing rocks in the pool for him to fetch. “Happy dog, happy dog. Here's your rock, boss Throw it again, c'mon, c'mon, C'MON!!” We gradually increased the size of the rocks we were throwing in, until Pete heaved one that was too big for Jason to pick up into the deepest part of the pool. He dove in after it, but couldn't pick it up, even after repeated attempts with only his hips and tail out of the water, so he got mad at the rock (duh). and started barking at it. With his head and most of his body underwater. Barking underwater. These BIG bubbles would break the surface of the water, then the big, square head would pop up, take a deep breath, and go back down to bark some more. More BIG bubbles. Pete and I were in hysterics, and he was barely able to gasp out, "Rick, your dog is really stupid." We finally stopped laughing and dragged him out with the rope before he drowned himself, and threw a stick down the trail back to the parking lot. Evil rock was forgotten immediately. “Oboyoboyoboy, A STICK!! Happy dog, happy dog.” Once back in the parking lot,we saw the lot was about ¾ full and filling slowly. Since there wasn’t anybody giving us the hairy eyeball over our parking space, we decided to have a beer before we drove home, so we tied the end of Jason’s rope to the front bumper of Pete's Toyota pick up, cracked a couple of cold ones, and sat on the hood of the truck, watching the happy dog saying hi to all his newest best friends in the world, EVER!! At this juncture, with the moose as far away to the left as his 30' of rope would allow, a car pulled in across the dirt parking lot and about 40 feet to the right. This somewhat effeminate guy got out, and put his little foo-foo dog on the ground next to his car and clipped the dog's leash to her collar. Pete and I looked at each other, said "Uh-oh" in unison, and looked to see where Jason was, just in time to see him barreling past the pickup at full speed, running to say hi to Foo-Foo, his newest best friend in the world, EVER!! Pete said, "this is gonna be ugly..." and just as he said "ugly," 160 pounds of unguided muscle hit the end of his rope at full tilt boogie...


The big square head snapped down, as the rope stopped Jason dead in his tracks, but the ass-end kept right on going, up and over the suddenly stationary big square head, and landed on its back in the dirt parking lot, raising a cloud of dust at the impact crater, and jerked the rope so hard, the front of the pickup lurched violently a foot to the right, and caused Pete and I, who were not at all prepared for said sudden lurch to the right, to fall to the left, off the hood of the truck, each landing on his back, spilling his beer on himself, and Foo-Foo, in mortal fear for her life, peed on her owner's shoe and pants leg.

A moment of silence as the dust settled around the stunned moose lying on his back, and the beer soaked into the stunned brothers lying on theirs, and the stunned crowd in the parking lot surveyed the carnage, followed by an explosion of hysterical laughter. All the witnesses to this idiocy were laughing uncontrollably, the principles, not so much. Pete looked over at me and said. "Rick, your dog is really stupid," at which point Jason arrived, having already shaken off his crash and burn, and was delighted to find his two favorite best friends in the world, EVER! lying on their backs at his level, which of course means, “THEY MUST WANT KISSES!! OBOYOBOYOBOY!” I scrambled to my feet, narrowly avoiding Pete's fate, lying flat on his back, helpless, as 160 pounds of HAPPY LAB stood on his beer-soaked chest and gave him lots of slobbery kisses, while he yelled, "Get this big shit off of me!" More hysterical laughter from the assembled multitude, this time including me...
Dude, There DOGS! None of them is ever going to win the Nobel Prize or earn tenure at Harvard.

My black lab (now deceased) was fairly bright and he had real focused enthusiasm for three things. Hunting, breeding, sleeping and eating for which he did all four exceptionally well. What's amazing is that dog taught me how to hunt.

Course I always treated my dog like a dog (and he liked it that way too). I mean, dogs like to roll in bear shit. Does that make them dumb? No, it makes them a dog!
 
The most important thing is that people take proper care of their dogs. Keep them from being a problem to others and such.

I shot a woman down the roads HUGE white german sheperd. I was sitting out back it came by chasing one of my cats I yelled at it and it growled at me so dead dog.
She told me she paid $500 for the dog. I told here I was sorry but she should have protected her investment better.

In KY you are allowed to shoot any dog that comes on your property and threatens or causes damage. My county also has a leash law.
Yea, I had a shepard that killed a neighbors sheep. Tore me up when I shot him.
 
Dude, There DOGS! None of them is ever going to win the Nobel Prize or earn tenure at Harvard.

My black lab (now deceased) was fairly bright and he had real focused enthusiasm for three things. Hunting, breeding, sleeping and eating for which he did all four exceptionally well. What's amazing is that dog taught me how to hunt.

Course I always treated my dog like a dog (and he liked it that way too). I mean, dogs like to roll in bear shit. Does that make them dumb? No, it makes them a dog!

Well, no shit. That's why I love retrievers. They're big, goofy, loyal, and happy. And they're a blast to be around I wrote that just for the hell of it about 6 months ago, and sent it to friends who had retrievers or other big, goofy dogs to give them a laugh. I never intended it as a serious treatise on canine intelligence. Mostly, I just felt like writing OBOYOBOYOBOY a bunch of times in honor of my best friends in the world EVER.
 
I had a golden that was smarter than some people I have worked with.

He wanted to be a mother to any tiny animal he found. He raised 1 child, 2 kittens, and 2 puppies. When my mother-in-law came to tell my wife that her cousin had died suddenly, my wife grabbed the door jam and sunk to the floor (they were very close). That old dog came over and put one paw on my wife's shoulder so gently that my mother-in-law still talks about it.

I could send him to any room in the house verbally. He knew what a pizza box looked like from across the yard. When I had to have him put down it was one of the worst days of my life. He was not only a smart dog, he was one of the most gentle, loving souls I have ever known. And I miss him to this day.

Dogs may not be the smartest animals out there. But they have the capacity to love unconditionally and the ability to teach us to do the same. Maybe smarts aren't all they are cracked up to be.

One of the reasons I admire Thorn is for her signature. Truly a noble goal.
 
I had a golden that was smarter than some people I have worked with.

He wanted to be a mother to any tiny animal he found. He raised 1 child, 2 kittens, and 2 puppies. When my mother-in-law came to tell my wife that her cousin had died suddenly, my wife grabbed the door jam and sunk to the floor (they were very close). That old dog came over and put one paw on my wife's shoulder so gently that my mother-in-law still talks about it.

I could send him to any room in the house verbally. He knew what a pizza box looked like from across the yard. When I had to have him put down it was one of the worst days of my life. He was not only a smart dog, he was one of the most gentle, loving souls I have ever known. And I miss him to this day.

Dogs may not be the smartest animals out there. But they have the capacity to love unconditionally and the ability to teach us to do the same. Maybe smarts aren't all they are cracked up to be.

One of the reasons I admire Thorn is for her signature. Truly a noble goal.


Agreed.

One of the reasons dog-fighting is so unforgiveable is that it is not only animal cruelty in general, but specifically is also nothing less than a betrayal of that unconditional love and loyalty we have bred into dogs for 16,000 years. Since we as a species have undertaken the elimination through selective breeding of a wild animal's natural wariness of humans, in order to develop a companion species. it is incumbent upon us not to take undue advantage of that unquestioning trust which we have engendered in that species.

On a lighter note, I was watching a program on the Animal Channel about training Labs as service dogs. One of the segments dealt with the absolute necessity that the service dog obey commands and not be distracted by any external stimulus not directly related to their job, and the test for that discipline they gave this group of retrievers was a real hoot. They led the group into the test area, gave the commands "down" and "stay," and then, cruelty of all cruelties to a Lab (or a Golden), they dumped a box of tennis balls out in front of the dogs. Every Lab's head shot up, every Lab's body stiffened with the stress of the internal battle raging within, every pair of eyes tracked the balls as they rolled past, but not one dog broke the "stay" command. I was mightily impressed, especially since my yellow Lab/golden mix had jumped to her feet when the box was dumped, pressed her nose to the TV screen, and was at first whimpering at the sight of all those tennis balls rolling free, then stepped back from the TV and began alternately "talking" to the TV and looking at me with this look of concern on her face (the furrowed brow, what Pete calls the "oh, we almost had a thought" look), apparently very unhappy with the failure of the dogs on the screen to perform their due diligence as regards basic tennis ball management.
 
Agreed.

One of the reasons dog-fighting is so unforgiveable is that it is not only animal cruelty in general, but specifically is also nothing less than a betrayal of that unconditional love and loyalty we have bred into dogs for 16,000 years. Since we as a species have undertaken the elimination through selective breeding of a wild animal's natural wariness of humans, in order to develop a companion species. it is incumbent upon us not to take undue advantage of that unquestioning trust which we have engendered in that species.

On a lighter note, I was watching a program on the Animal Channel about training Labs as service dogs. One of the segments dealt with the absolute necessity that the service dog obey commands and not be distracted by any external stimulus not directly related to their job, and the test for that discipline they gave this group of retrievers was a real hoot. They led the group into the test area, gave the commands "down" and "stay," and then, cruelty of all cruelties to a Lab (or a Golden), they dumped a box of tennis balls out in front of the dogs. Every Lab's head shot up, every Lab's body stiffened with the stress of the internal battle raging within, every pair of eyes tracked the balls as they rolled past, but not one dog broke the "stay" command. I was mightily impressed, especially since my yellow Lab/golden mix had jumped to her feet when the box was dumped, pressed her nose to the TV screen, and was at first whimpering at the sight of all those tennis balls rolling free, then stepped back from the TV and began alternately "talking" to the TV and looking at me with this look of concern on her face (the furrowed brow, what Pete calls the "oh, we almost had a thought" look), apparently very unhappy with the failure of the dogs on the screen to perform their due diligence as regards basic tennis ball management.

My golden was the rare exception concerning tennis balls. He was a rescue, and already had grey around his muzzle when we adopted him (or he adopted us). I bought a few tennis balls, thinking he would love to play, be he was completely uninterested. But if you rolled an orange accross the floor he would chase it like a puppy. The vet estimated he was around 9 or 10, so he was way passed his prime.

What ruined us was him being diagnosed as having heart worms. The treatment was as likely to kill him as the heartworms. I asked the vet how long he had before the heartworms would cause serious health issues. The vet told us that the heartworms were pretty advanced, so he figured 6 months to a year. Knowing that, we started spoiling him and giving him more treats to eat, sharing "people food" with him ect. 5 years later when we had to have him put down, he was an overweight, happy dog with advanced arthritus and liver problems.

Sorry, remembering that shaggy old beast gets me smiling and ready to tear up at the same time.
 
Agreed.

One of the reasons dog-fighting is so unforgiveable is that it is not only animal cruelty in general, but specifically is also nothing less than a betrayal of that unconditional love and loyalty we have bred into dogs for 16,000 years. Since we as a species have undertaken the elimination through selective breeding of a wild animal's natural wariness of humans, in order to develop a companion species. it is incumbent upon us not to take undue advantage of that unquestioning trust which we have engendered in that species.

On a lighter note, I was watching a program on the Animal Channel about training Labs as service dogs. One of the segments dealt with the absolute necessity that the service dog obey commands and not be distracted by any external stimulus not directly related to their job, and the test for that discipline they gave this group of retrievers was a real hoot. They led the group into the test area, gave the commands "down" and "stay," and then, cruelty of all cruelties to a Lab (or a Golden), they dumped a box of tennis balls out in front of the dogs. Every Lab's head shot up, every Lab's body stiffened with the stress of the internal battle raging within, every pair of eyes tracked the balls as they rolled past, but not one dog broke the "stay" command. I was mightily impressed, especially since my yellow Lab/golden mix had jumped to her feet when the box was dumped, pressed her nose to the TV screen, and was at first whimpering at the sight of all those tennis balls rolling free, then stepped back from the TV and began alternately "talking" to the TV and looking at me with this look of concern on her face (the furrowed brow, what Pete calls the "oh, we almost had a thought" look), apparently very unhappy with the failure of the dogs on the screen to perform their due diligence as regards basic tennis ball management.

Actually, in making them companions we simply are emphasizing something that is inherent in their natures, the "pack" mindset, with the alteration that the humans become the alphas rather than other dogs. You can see a reversion to the Pack, sadly, when people ignorantly release unwanted pets into the country and they form packs of their own, suspicious of humans. That is, assuming that they survive before this happens, but that's for another thread.

My Australian Shepherd, now four, has been "a lot of dog" since he was a puppy. With a lot of love, maturity and training he's finally becoming calmer. We went through the Canine Good Citizen program when he was about two. One of the tests was to place the dog in a sit-stay while the testers walked around bouncing tennis balls, squeaking toys, and shaking treats. Amazingly, my guy actually held his stay and earned a treat and a toy along with his CGC title. More recently I took him to a fun Match in competitive-level obedience; his CGC instructor didn't even recognize him because he was so well behaved. His hind end wriggled enough to make a milkshake, but he didn't jump up and was fantastic in the ring. He has fun doing this, and loves all the attention, which is why we do it. :)
 
My golden was the rare exception concerning tennis balls. He was a rescue, and already had grey around his muzzle when we adopted him (or he adopted us). I bought a few tennis balls, thinking he would love to play, be he was completely uninterested. But if you rolled an orange accross the floor he would chase it like a puppy. The vet estimated he was around 9 or 10, so he was way passed his prime.

What ruined us was him being diagnosed as having heart worms. The treatment was as likely to kill him as the heartworms. I asked the vet how long he had before the heartworms would cause serious health issues. The vet told us that the heartworms were pretty advanced, so he figured 6 months to a year. Knowing that, we started spoiling him and giving him more treats to eat, sharing "people food" with him ect. 5 years later when we had to have him put down, he was an overweight, happy dog with advanced arthritus and liver problems.

Sorry, remembering that shaggy old beast gets me smiling and ready to tear up at the same time.


I know the feeling. As I mentioned before, Callie, my lab/golden mix, had to be put down because of kidney failure. The last few months of her life, we had to give her half a bag of saline solution subcutaneously (at the scruff of the neck) every night to help flush her system, and she was so trusting that she always came over immediately when I waved her over, and lay quietly through the whole nightly ordeal. I had to use hand signals because she was deaf, the result of a vet's assistant deciding to flush her ears out while she was still under anesthesia from surgery when she was 5, and rupturing both her eardrums, since she was unable to flinch away. Fortunately, she had been taught hand signals as part of her obedience training. When we started the IVs, I had asked the vet when I would know it was time to put her down, because I didn't want to prolong her life if she was going to be in pain and unhappy, He said, "she'll let you know when it's time. When she refuses the IV, it will be time to make the appointment to bring her in." That's exactly what happened: one night I motioned for her to come, but she wouldn't. She looked very unhappy about disobeying, so I put the IV away, and let her know it was okay. I called the vet the next morning.

The day of the appointment, a couple of hours before we were due at the vet's, I took her outside for a last game of fetch with the tennis ball. She was a tennis ball addict, and had been since puppyhood, but had no idea what the word "ball" meant, since we had never used that word. "What?" I hear you cry. "How the hell could she be a tennis ball addict and not know what a ball was?"

The explanation is a little convoluted, so bear with me. High school buddy and post-college roommate invents faux Spanish phrase: Que pata la bueno. Years later, he was over for dinner and mentioned it. My daughter Erika, then 10, asked what it meant. Nothing, she was told.

"Well, can we teach Callie it means something?"

"Sure, as long as we're consistent and never use the real name, because that would confuse her. What do you have in mind?"

"Tennis ball. We just got them for her and haven't started training her to fetch yet."

"I like it." We have a lot of wise-ass friends and relatives,and I thought it had potential for a lot of laughs at their expense, and that turned out to be the case. Que pata la bueno became shortened in time to que pata, and everyone who knew or met her was roped into at least a couple of rounds of que pata. My extended family still refers to que patas when talking about those round fuzzy things, and Callie has been gone for almost 6 years now. That last afternoon, I threw what turned out to be her last que pata. Where she used to run back with it, drop it at your feet and run out to turn and wait for the next throw, that day she trotted back, dropped the que pata about 8-10 feet away, walked slowly the rest of the way back, turned and leaned against my right leg, then looked up at me with this apologetic look on her face, because she was too tired and weak to do her job. Anybody who has had a gun dog or a working dog/herder knows I'm not anthropomorphizing. Retrieving or herding is their raison d'etre, and when they can't do their job they get depressed. Any reputable Border Collie breeder will tell you they don't make the best house pets, because they need to work, and if there's no herding to be done, you need to give them work to do. If you don't, they will find a job to do, and you won't like the job they find.

When Callie turned down a game of que pata, I knew it was all over but the crying.
 
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