Again, they are not really that different...

Jarod

Jarod

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So what differences are there really between Mitt Romney and President Obama.

Other than the rhethoric that Romney spouts out about being against the AHCA and being Pro-Choice and Anti-Gay... What are the real differences?

We all know Romney is really pro-choice, we all know when it comes down to it he cant do much to change the AHCA or the rights of Gay People..

I dont like that he wont release his taxes, or that he continues to be disengenous about the Presidents "You did not build that" comment... but really in the end, life will not be much different depending on who wins.

I like Romney okay, and while he is pretending to be very conservative I dont buy it. He is no GWB, he is much more like a less principled McCain. Can anyone cite any real differences?
 
Well, you can start here:

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That's a pretty big difference.
 
And that doesn't even factor in the increases for low and middle income folks under Romney if his tax rate cuts are revenue neutral.
 
Jarod said:
Those projections are not realistic, and they are simply based on what Romney says, not what he will do.
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So you want us to show how they are different but we can't use what Romney says as a basis for the analysis and instead have to pretend to know what Romney will do and ignore what he is actually proposing?

Makes sense.
 
Romney admited he intends to govern differently than his rhetoric. Clearly the government would not function with that drastic of tax cuts.
 
etch a skecth planning vs ineptitude and corruption

slight difference
Obama will have better luck pushing through the (big business friendly) healthcare reform than Romney

Goldman Sachs FTW!
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
So you want us to show how they are different but we can't use what Romney says as a basis for the analysis and instead have to pretend to know what Romney will do and ignore what he is actually proposing?

Makes sense.
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The argument I see people making, which often times is very true, is their rhetoric on the campaign trail may be quite different but once in office their actions are not all that different.

I like this quote from John Mauldin in an email I received from him: "One thing I like about this analysis from my friend and geopolitical expert George Friedman is that he starts off with an obvious yet understated fact: you can't believe what presidential candidates say. Not because they are pathological liars, but because they must make promises that, once elected, they cannot keep, given the reality of the office."
 
cawacko said:
The argument I see people making, which often times is very true, is their rhetoric on the campaign trail may be quite different but once in office their actions are not all that different.

I like this quote from John Mauldin in an email I received from him: "One thing I like about this analysis from my friend and geopolitical expert George Friedman is that he starts off with an obvious yet understated fact: you can't believe what presidential candidates say. Not because they are pathological liars, but because they must make promises that, once elected, they cannot keep, given the reality of the office."
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I don't necessarily disagree, but pretending that Romney will be substantially more centrist than his campaign rhetoric is wishful thinking. If Rmoney wins in all likelihood the Republicans will control the House and the Senate and they won't let him.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
I don't necessarily disagree, but pretending that Romney will be substantially more centrist than his campaign rhetoric is wishful thinking. If Rmoney wins in all likelihood the Republicans will control the House and the Senate and they won't let him.
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When Republicans controlled Congress under Bill Clinton they fought him tooth and nail on almost all spending. Once George W. Bush took office they put up no effort to fight his spending. As Santorum said 'sometimes you have to take one for the team'. Why do you feel a Republican led Congress this time would be any different with Romney as President than with Bush?
 
cawacko said:
The argument I see people making, which often times is very true, is their rhetoric on the campaign trail may be quite different but once in office their actions are not all that different.

I like this quote from John Mauldin in an email I received from him: "One thing I like about this analysis from my friend and geopolitical expert George Friedman is that he starts off with an obvious yet understated fact: you can't believe what presidential candidates say. Not because they are pathological liars, but because they must make promises that, once elected, they cannot keep, given the reality of the office."
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THIS!
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
So you want us to show how they are different but we can't use what Romney says as a basis for the analysis and instead have to pretend to know what Romney will do and ignore what he is actually proposing?

Makes sense.
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Just look at what he did as gov of Mass!
 
cawacko said:
When Republicans controlled Congress under Bill Clinton they fought him tooth and nail on almost all spending. Once George W. Bush took office they put up no effort to fight his spending. As Santorum said 'sometimes you have to take one for the team'. Why do you feel a Republican led Congress this time would be any different with Romney as President than with Bush?
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Well, I doubt that they'd be much different on spending, but the Tea Party folks will fight like hell and you know the tax cuts will go through. I also think that the Republicans in Congress recall where they were left by following Bush blindly. They won't let that happen again. Also, too, Bush had some conservative bonafides and does not have the tenuous relationship with the right that Romney has. I expect for the most part for Romeny the president to just sign the bills that the Republican Congress passes.
 
Romney will do whatever Adelson demands.

Cute little graph above. I wonder if anyone has one for a projected deficit increase when the Romney/Ryan budget is enacted?


BTW...the premise of the OP is close. It doesn't matter who wins POTUS. Congressional changes are more important.
 
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