Air Force Requests Emergency Funding To Help Transport Killed And Wounded Soldiers...

Prakosh

Senior Member
Air Force Requests Emergency Funding To Help Transport Killed And Wounded Soldiers...

In the meantime, after all the Kerry Bashing, and all the claims about who supports the troops who are after all "purdy smart," not, of course, omitting that if they were all that smart they wouldn’t be in an all-volunteer Military fighting for nothing in Iraq, but the point is that the military has been consistently under-funded during the Bush years and they are still being under-funded and funded off the books, in order to make things look rosier economically than they are. If the Congress under the Democrats just changes how the war is financed, the war will change drastically and Bush will be shown to be the dishonest and fraudulent bastard that he is. Of course, it remains to be seen if Democrats like Joe Lieberman will even vote to bring the payments into the light of day let alone to make anyone accountable for the lavish and fraudulent expenditures to well connected private contractors who are making a killing every time someone gets in trouble in this administration.

Support the Troops? Give Me a Break!!!!!

Air Force To Seek $50 Billion In Emergency Funds For Transport of Dead and Wounded Soldiers

By Andrea Shalal-Esa
Reuters
Tuesday, October 31, 2006; 2:50 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Air Force is asking the Pentagon's leadership for a staggering $50 billion in emergency funding for fiscal 2007 -- an amount equal to nearly half its annual budget, defense analyst Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute said on Tuesday.

The request is expected to draw criticism on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers are increasingly worried about the huge sums being sought "off budget" to fund wars, escaping the more rigorous congressional oversight of regular budgets.

Another source familiar with the Air Force plans said the extra funds would help pay to transport growing numbers of U.S. soldiers being killed and wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Thompson, who has close ties to U.S. military officials, said the big funding request was fueled by Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England. England told the services in a October 25 memo to include the "longer war on terror," not just the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, in their emergency requests.

"This amount of money is so much bigger than the Air Force would normally request ... it hints at a basic breakdown in the process for planning and funding war costs," said Thompson.

He said the Air Force had identified $30 billion just in past war-related costs that were not approved by the Pentagon.

The Air Force's proposed emergency budget is nearly half the $105.9 billion it requested as its total base budget for fiscal year 2007, which began on October 1.

The Air Force said it asked Pentagon officials for $17.4 billion in emergency war funds in August, but was now submitting "additional requirements to cover costs for the longer war against terror," based on England's memo.

Spokeswoman Maj. Morshe Araujo gave no details on the new request, saying it would be completed only next week.

She said the service had already mapped out an expected supplemental funding request of $50 billion for fiscal 2008.

The Army, which got the lion's share of an initial $70 billion supplemental budget passed by Congress last month, is asking for more than $80 billion in additional funds for the second half of fiscal 2007, according to published reports. The Navy is also expected to seek funds for the Marine Corps.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will decide on the supplemental funding requests on November 15, according to the England memo, reported by Inside Defense last week.

In the memo, England said the emergency funding requests should include reset costs for combat losses, accelerated wear and necessary repairs for equipment, or upgrades to newer models when repairs were not economically feasible.

But Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain and some other lawmakers are alarmed about continued use of "emergency" funding requests when the war in Iraq has been under way for over three years. Such requests should be reserved for true emergency situations, they argue.

With the latest bill passed last month, Congress has approved about $507 billion in spending for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, under some 13 "emergency" spending requests, according to the Congressional Research Service.

That compares to two supplemental requests made during 11 years of fighting in Vietnam several decades ago, and just one request for the Korean War, according to a congressional aide.

Thompson said Rumsfeld was clearly challenging Congress.

"Rumsfeld is playing budgetary chicken with Capitol Hill. Congress is saying it's time to stop doing budgeting outside the regular process, and the secretary is saying, 'Well, give us the money we need to defend the nation'," Thompson said.

In recent months, top military brass have called for more defense dollars, arguing that current spending as a percentage of gross domestic product is lower than during other wars.

Army officials say they can accurately calculate war costs this far into the conflict, but the White House does not want those costs included in the base budget.

Defense consultant Jim McAleese said the White House took exception to a clause in the 2007 defense spending law, which required the Pentagon to include all foreseeable Iraq and Afghanistan war costs within its 2008 budget.

Given that, he predicted the Bush administration could try to ram through a 2007 emergency budget during the congressional "lame duck" session in November and December.

Full Heartbreaking Story With Pictures and Graphs
 
Wait and see what the budget asks for. But your headline is a lie. Clearly stated in the article is this >>> "additional requirements to cover costs for the longer war against terror," . So much more than transporting soldiers.
 
this war has intentionally been funded outside regular budgetary channels for 2 reasons.
!. Easier to lie about the budget when the war costs are not figured in.
2. Supplemental spending bills are expment from as much oversight as regular buget items are.
 
this war has intentionally been funded outside regular budgetary channels for 2 reasons.
!. Easier to lie about the budget when the war costs are not figured in.
2. Supplemental spending bills are expment from as much oversight as regular buget items are.
It is impossible to lie about the cost of war when it is voted on seperately from every other budget item. This is a pretense that is almost laughable. Somehow they are hiding it by underscoring it instead of hiding it among other billions?
 
When bush talks of balancing and having cut the defecit, does he include the war costs Damo ?
do too rediculious methinks...
 
That is included US. pay attention. The total deficit includes the supplements and all payments.
 
This funding is supposedly "off the books" but I have never seen anyone define what "off the books" means budgetarily in this context. Damocles is right, it is done in front of your face but that doesn't mean it is being counted in the places where it matters to the taxpayer or the regulatory agenceis or if it is being counted in debt and expenditures. As far as Bush doing something in public which is wholly slight of hand. One only has to recall his signature on the McCain anti-torture bill and his signing statement saying that he would continue to torture because the bill didn't apply to the Executive Branch which includes the CIA. Bush doing something in public means nothing. He is the all-time champion of "who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"
 
The actual numbers are the actual numbers, not to be confused with the budget. What is so hard to understand about that?
 
The actual numbers are the actual numbers, not to be confused with the budget. What is so hard to understand about that?

Fair enough, numbers are numbers. Who can argue with that? So then I have just one question: How much exactly has been appropriated and spent on the war on terror????

That should be simple to put together for my main man, tody. Don't you think????

And of course, show your work!!!!!
 
Prakosh, why do we get CPI figures with inflation figured in and wage information without inflation figured in ?
:)
 
Simple Bush Apparently wants to it both ways. But I don't know enough to know why this particular combination helps him. Let me think about it for a while. I have to run now.
 
Well it makes the CPI look lower once indexed for inflation and the wages look higher because the are not indexed for inflation.
Yep Tobes numbers are numbers, but a lot of how they are percieved is in the manner in which they are presented.

And in todays instant gratification short attention span media, perception is what it is all about, the whole truth is an unfortunate victim.
 
Back
Top