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but not one word about other ways to cut costs

WASHINGTON (AP) — Air Force leaders will cut flying hours by nearly 20 percent and prepare for a possible end to all noncombat or noncritical flights from late July through September if Congress can't agree on a budget and billions of dollars in automatic cuts are triggered.
In an Air Force internal memo obtained by The Associated Press, Air Force Secretary Michael Donley laid out broad but grim steps the service will be taking in coming days and weeks to enforce a civilian hiring freeze, cancel air show appearances and flyovers, and slash base improvements and repairs by about 50 percent.
Beyond those immediate actions, Donley and Gen. Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, said in the memo that the service will make plans to chop aircraft and depot maintenance by about 17 percent and initiate widespread civilian furloughs if there is no resolution to the budget issue by March. The cut in flights would reduce flying hours by more than 200,000, the memo said.
In a similar memo, the Navy said it faces a $4 billion shortfall in its operations and maintenance accounts and called for "stringent belt-tightening measures" if a new budget is not passed and the military has to operate with the same funding it got for the previous fiscal year.
Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, in the memo obtained by The Associated Press, said a number of actions must be considered to seek cost savings, including postponing the decommissioning of ships, if necessary. Other possible steps included a civilian hiring freeze, termination of temporary employees, cuts to base improvements or repairs and reductions in travel, information technology and administrative spending.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and other military leaders have been predicting dire consequences if Congress fails to pass a new budget and automatic cuts take place. The Pentagon is facing a spending reduction of nearly $500 billion over a decade. An additional $110 billion in automatic spending cuts to military and domestic programs will take effect in early March if no agreement is reached.
In a briefing with Pentagon reporters, Donley said the Air Force is not targeting a particular amount in savings to achieve, but is taking steps to curtail spending where possible at this point without having an irreversible effect on the service and not impacting the nation's ability to wage war.
The Air Force accounts, Donley said, will bear about up to 20 percent of the Defense Department reductions
Asked about Panetta's directive to possibly cancel ship, aircraft and depot maintenance in the third and fourth quarters of this fiscal year if there is no budget solution, Donley said the Air Force will review each type of aircraft and its requirements.
"We're trying to take prudent actions now that are as reversible, recoverable as possible," Donley said. "We're trying to protect maintenance for aircraft and weapons systems sustainability as long as we can into the fiscal year."
Welsh said commanders will make decisions on how best to curtail flying and that the Air Force will try to protect training flights as long into the year as it can.
But, he noted, "if sequestration hits and the multibillion-dollars reductions fall on the last two quarters of the fiscal year, there is no way not to impact training, flying hours and maintenance, which are things, right now, we are trying to protect as long as we can."
Officials said that civilian pay is about 40 percent of the Air Force's operations and maintenance budget. Panetta has made it clear that if there is no budget agreement, the civilian workforce will face sweeping cuts and unpaid furloughs.
There are about 800,000 civilians across the Defense Department, and nearly 1.4 million in the active-duty military. The Air Force numbers about 330,000 active-duty service members and about 143,000 fulltime civilians.

http://news.yahoo.com/air-force-memo-outlines-sweeping-budget-cuts-201226402.html
 
but not one word about other ways to cut costs

WASHINGTON (AP) — Air Force leaders will cut flying hours by nearly 20 percent and prepare for a possible end to all noncombat or noncritical flights from late July through September if Congress can't agree on a budget and billions of dollars in automatic cuts are triggered.
In an Air Force internal memo obtained by The Associated Press, Air Force Secretary Michael Donley laid out broad but grim steps the service will be taking in coming days and weeks to enforce a civilian hiring freeze, cancel air show appearances and flyovers, and slash base improvements and repairs by abou"t 50 percent.
Beyond those immediate actions, Donley and Gen. Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, said in the memo that the service will make plans to chop aircraft and depot maintenance by about 17 percent and initiate widespread civilian furloughs if there is no resolution to the budget issue by March. The cut in flights would reduce flying hours by more than 200,000, the memo said.[/
In a similar memo, the Navy said it faces a $4 billion shortfall in its operations and maintenance accounts and called for "stringent belt-tightening measures" if a new budget is not passed and the military has to operate with the same funding it got for the previous fiscal year.
Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, in the memo obtained by The Associated Press, said a number of actions must be considered to seek cost savings, including postponing the decommissioning of ships, if necessary. Other possible steps included a civilian hiring freeze, termination of temporary employees, cuts to base improvements or repairs and reductions in travel, information technology and administrative spending.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and other military leaders have been predicting dire consequences if Congress fails to pass a new budget and automatic cuts take place. The Pentagon is facing a spending reduction of nearly $500 billion over a decade. An additional $110 billion in automatic spending cuts to military and domestic programs will take effect in early March if no agreement is reached.
In a briefing with Pentagon reporters, Donley said the Air Force is not targeting a particular amount in savings to achieve, but is taking steps to curtail spending where possible at this point without having an irreversible effect on the service and not impacting the nation's ability to wage war.
The Air Force accounts, Donley said, will bear about up to 20 percent of the Defense Department reductions
Asked about Panetta's directive to possibly cancel ship, aircraft and depot maintenance in the third and fourth quarters of this fiscal year if there is no budget solution, Donley said the Air Force will review each type of aircraft and its requirements.
"We're trying to take prudent actions now that are as reversible, recoverable as possible," Donley said. "We're trying to protect maintenance for aircraft and weapons systems sustainability as long as we can into the fiscal year."
Welsh said commanders will make decisions on how best to curtail flying and that the Air Force will try to protect training flights as long into the year as it can.
But, he noted, "if sequestration hits and the multibillion-dollars reductions fall on the last two quarters of the fiscal year, there is no way not to impact training, flying hours and maintenance, which are things, right now, we are trying to protect as long as we can."
Officials said that civilian pay is about 40 percent of the Air Force's operations and maintenance budget. Panetta has made it clear that if there is no budget agreement, the civilian workforce will face sweeping cuts and unpaid furloughs.
There are about 800,000 civilians across the Defense Department, and nearly 1.4 million in the active-duty military. The Air Force numbers about 330,000 active-duty service members and about 143,000 fulltime civilians.

http://news.yahoo.com/air-force-memo-outlines-sweeping-budget-cuts-201226402.html


How much time can be trimmed before readiness suffers?
 
How much time can be trimmed before readiness suffers?

considering that we have the best trained pilots right now and that training and maintenance are the principal cuts mentioned, is this the only way that the air force can save money?

also, why are there so many civilian workers in our air force?

what programs and purchases could be cut/reduced other than training and maintenance?

the biggest cost of aircraft (after purchase) is replacement parts, yet there are no programs to examine the actual need for replacement parts for aircraft or servicing of aircraft based on actual usage (such as high speed maneuvers hard landings or other above normal stresses on the aircraft or select components, especially engines and air frame - why, because aircraft manufacturers make more money on replacement parts than actual sales

oh well
 
considering that we have the best trained pilots right now and that training and maintenance are the principal cuts mentioned, is this the only way that the air force can save money?

also, why are there so many civilian workers in our air force?

what programs and purchases could be cut/reduced other than training and maintenance?

the biggest cost of aircraft (after purchase) is replacement parts, yet there are no programs to examine the actual need for replacement parts for aircraft or servicing of aircraft based on actual usage (such as high speed maneuvers hard landings or other above normal stresses on the aircraft or select components, especially engines and air frame - why, because aircraft manufacturers make more money on replacement parts than actual sales

oh well

I think a review of all military contracts would be good.
 
How much time can be trimmed before readiness suffers?

Well, theoretically any cut in hours affects readiness, since readiness is a determination of manpower and up to date training.

But realistically 20% in flight times is fine. Of course they COULD cut the trillion dollar F35 boondoggle but we all know that's not going to happen. The AF always bitches and pisses and moans for the shiny toys and boy do they get them. Nevermind that the Navy does most combat flights anyways.
 
I've seen TDY opportunities cut way back. It would be nice to get opportunities to visit the Canadian Sector and other units associated with my career field and NORAD, but I can wait another year or two.
 
How much time can be trimmed before readiness suffers?
How much readiness/manpower do we need? Do we really need to be able to invade any country on the globe within a week of them irritating us? Honestly guys I'd like an answer to this one. Aside from nuclear doom(which we can't really prevent anyway) How many countries are a true military threat to us? China? Maybe, and even then I don't think either nation has much of a delivery system, we'd send out boats and make faces at eachother until somebody got desperate enough to launch a nuke and everybody died.
 
Quite a bit, actually. With Iraq gone, Afghanistan soon to be gone, and new technology, this will be an easy goal to accomplish without sacrificing readiness.
The Middle East will never stay "gone". In fact, America's enemies will never stay "gone", therefore, Readiness needs to never be "gone".
 
The Middle East will never stay "gone". In fact, America's enemies will never stay "gone", therefore, Readiness needs to never be "gone".
Of course our enemies will never be gone, we keep manufacturing more. Germany was the cause of the deaths of over 60 million people in ww2 and they have fewer enemies than the united states.
 
They should have more. People should never forgive Germany.

I disagree on that point.
The Germans of today are not the same as those from back then.
They have even enacted laws, in an attempt to stop anyone from honoring those that were involved in what happened.
 
They should have more. People should never forgive Germany.
And never forgive England, or France, or Egypt, or Russia, or China, or Japan, or Korea, or Vietnam, or Mexico, or Cuba, or Spain, or Morocco, or Algiers or Italy or Tunisia. Oh, and the US, never forgive the US.

Have I made my point or do you want more hyperbole?
 
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