Al Gore and Atheists

klaatu

Fusionist
I stumbled upon this during a search ....its old but I thought it was interesting .... considering all the talk of religion today


If the message boards are not yet crawling with the news they soon will be: U.S. Vice President and Presidential candidate Al Gore admitted that he was a born-again Christian. During a 60 Minutes interview, broadcast on Dec. 5, he also attacked nonbelievers--or what Gore referred to as the "anti-religious view"-- calling them "arrogant" and "intimidating . . . making people who do believe in God feel like they're being put down and I don't like that. I've never liked that."
Nonbelievers are arrogant? For shame! Al Gore is sure to fall under the wrath of every online freethought editor for his comments. By the end of the week, it will be the conventional wisdom of outraged atheists, humanists, and agnostics everywhere that Gore is one more in a long line of religious... as a good gimmick for political gain among the religious right... let's stop and examine the context of Gore's remarks. He made them during a moment in which his personal life was under the microscope. As the cameras roll, Gore is seen strolling on the campus of Vanderbilt University while the voice over tells us that just after his tour of duty in Vietnam, Gore enrolled in the Divinity School. "Did you want to be a minister?" the interviewer asks. "I was open to the call," he replies. Gore admitted that he was searching for the meaning of life. "What duty do we owe to our Creator?" he had asked himself at the time. Gore went on to express frustration that born-again Christians are often lampooned by nonbelievers but he admitted that he is uncomfortable when politicians talk about religion all of the time, especially when they use it as a wedge to drive between the separation of church and state. Even so, Gore said that religion was the "foundation of his life" and he stated that he will continue to be "personally guided by religion in his professional life."

Rather than join the bandwagon of outrage over Gore's remarks, I'd rather spend a moment to reflect and to defend him. Many of us nonbelievers are arrogant, incredibly arrogant, and in our single-minded attempt to engage in spiritual cleansing, we often forget that we have no more a monopoly on the truth than anyone else. Yet this reality does not seem to prevent some nonbelievers from howling their indignation loudly, bolstering their own sense of superiority by ridiculing those who believe in God. It is this rigid attitude that unites fundamentalist atheists with their religious cousins in that fundamentalist atheists are not content to revel in their own perfect worldview, but rather they must also prove others wrong in order for them to be right. It is this intellectual elitism that religious believers see when they glance behind them at those atheists who nip at their heels. In the end, this had led to a serious image problem for the rest of us for whom our atheism is not challenged by the coexistence of religious belief.

It is important to notice that Gore never once says that arrogant atheists are wrong for proclaiming their beliefs or even for proclaiming them passionately. Gore says that they are wrong for putting down others who do believe, and in that remark lies the rub. The result of denigrating the beliefs of others, no matter how silly they seem to us, is bigotry and intolerance. Gore attended a divinity school because he was searching for meaning in his life. That search led him to public service and regardless of what one thinks of his political views, no one should look down upon him for honestly searching for answers in his life...

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The same argument applies to the Christian believers trashing Atheists or those who do not worship God as they do even though they worship the same god. ie Christians vs Isalm....
 
One big difference between Christians and Atheists. Christians have to have an evil ourside influence threatening them to justify their existance. Devil, Satan, Atheist, Islamofascist, etc. Atheists do not want or need these outside evils to decide for themselves.
 
One big difference between Christians and Atheists. Christians have to have an evil ourside influence threatening them to justify their existance. Devil, Satan, Atheist, Islamofascist, etc. Atheists do not want or need these outside evils to decide for themselves.

alot of em think that religion is evil... where did you get that idea ?
 
alot of em think that religion is evil... where did you get that idea ?

HUH ? Did I say religion is evil ? It has been misused for evil purposes throught the centuries though.

How long would christianity last if not for the threat of hell , Satan, etc ?
 
The same argument applies to the Christian believers trashing Atheists or those who do not worship God as they do even though they worship the same god. ie Christians vs Isalm....

The gist of this article USC is respect for anothers belief... and by the way ... you are a perfect example of what the author is talking about. Thread after thread..whenever religion is jousted about (particularily Christianity) your contributions amount nothing more than ridicule. I.E. see the examples set forth in the thread about Sciptures.

Islamofascist? You dont seem to have an ability to distinguish political rhetoric from religion ....

Good Evil .. Yin Yang ... its been around for eons USC .....
 
Good Evil .. Yin Yang ... its been around for eons USC .....
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Yes mankind has a need to be able to explain thru religion and superstition the unknown.
 
Thread after thread..whenever religion is jousted about (particularily Christianity) your contributions amount nothing more than ridicule. I.E. see the examples set forth in the thread about Sciptures.

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I admire and support true christians, those who follow the lifestyle taught by Christ. The ones that use religion for their own purposes is an entirely different matter and I only feel scorn and pity for them.
 
We do have a monopoly on the belief of truth. It IS truth. You have a right to whatever religion you desire and I have the right to call you a fucking idiot.
 
We do have a monopoly on the belief of truth. It IS truth. You have a right to whatever religion you desire and I have the right to call you a fucking idiot.

Oooh ... thems fightin words sonny. You are right though.... you can call me an idiot if you want ... I'll let you and while you are searching for your sexuality and discovered the meaning of life .... I'll get out of your way ...

By the way... since you have found the truth ... what is it..? Im curious ...
 
Yet this reality does not seem to prevent some nonbelievers from howling their indignation loudly, bolstering their own sense of superiority by ridiculing those who believe in God.

There is a reason for this. The merits of both arguments. Religion is based on pathos, atheism logos....
 
And religious believers express their superiority because they believe in God, what is your point ?

There is a big difference ... and I think thats where Gore is coming from ...
As I have stated before .. you are a classic example of what he is talking about. Whenever the subject of God or faith pops up ... you are quick to snipe in with ridicule.. as if you have overriding proof of your personal take.
I cannot prove the existance of God ... just as you cannot prove why we exist.. yet you and many who think the way you do attempt to use Science as the overriding factor to support yours as definitive proof.... when all you have is theory. Now dont get me wrong .. I am not in anyway, shape or form anti-Science. ..... I just have a wide open mind ..... and Im not sure we will ever have definitive proof as to the reason why we exist ... until our term here expires .. and then either we will know ..or it wont matter.. will it?
 
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