American Conservatism Is a Poison

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At this point, 'Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones.
A well-funded coalition wants to put the Bible ahead of the Constitution.:whoa:

If this fanatical “Project 2025” if implemented would be the end of democracy and freedom in this country too?!!


You may have noticed, but you probably didn't, that here in the shebeen we have started to refer to the current right-wing politicians as conservatives rather than Republicans. "Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones, indicating that there is poison within. American conservatism, in virtually all its manifestations, is the poison.

It's why I have limited patience for many of our Never Trump allies. (Except for Stuart Stevens, who seems to take much the same long view that I do that many of them contributed not only to the ratfucking and nasty politics they so deplore now, but also to a series of godawful policies beginning with the narcotic fantasy of supply-side economics that has led them into the dark intellectual woods in which they now reside. It is the prion disease that always waxes and never wanes, that exists in a state of permanent relapse.

The Associated Press put together a precise prediction of the future course of the disease. It is not a promising diagnosis.



Led by the long-established Heritage Foundation think tank and fueled by former Trump administration officials, the far-reaching effort is essentially a government-in-waiting for the former president’s return — or any candidate who aligns with their ideals and can defeat President Joe Biden in 2024. With a nearly 1,000-page “Project 2025” handbook and an “army” of Americans, the idea is to have the civic infrastructure in place on Day One to commandeer, reshape and do away with what Republicans deride as the “deep state” bureaucracy, in part by firing as many as 50,000 federal workers. “We need to flood the zone with conservatives,” said Paul Dans, director of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project and a former Trump administration official who speaks with historical flourish about the undertaking. “This is a clarion call to come to Washington,” he said. “People need to lay down their tools, and step aside from their professional life and say, ‘This is my lifetime moment to serve.’”

The unprecedented effort is being orchestrated with dozens of right-flank organizations, many new to Washington, and represents a changed approach from conservatives, who traditionally have sought to limit the federal government by cutting federal taxes and slashing federal spending. Instead, Trump-era conservatives want to gut the “administrative state” from within, by ousting federal employees they believe are standing in the way of the president’s agenda and replacing them with like-minded officials more eager to fulfill a new executive’s approach to governing.

Sounds promising. But that first sentence is the key. This authoritarian wet dream is shared by enough elements of American conservatism that it is a perfect demonstration of what American conservatism is all about in 2023 CE. It isn't Trump. And it isn't a fluke change in our politics. It is what modern conservatism always has been— a vehicle to shove the nation's wealth upwards and to recreate an America run by inherited privilege and white skin.

“The president Day One will be a wrecking ball for the administrative state,” said Russ Vought, a former Trump administration official involved in the effort who is now president at the conservative Center for Renewing America. Much of the new president’s agenda would be accomplished by reinstating what’s called Schedule F — a Trump-era executive order that would reclassify tens of thousands of the 2 million federal employees as essentially at-will workers who could more easily be fired. Biden had rescinded the executive order upon taking office in 2021, but Trump — and other presidential hopefuls — now vow to reinstate it.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a44948964/conservatives-trump-2025-project/

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Instituting “biblically based” policies, saving souls and inducing Sabbath observance constitute a direct attack on religious freedom, a freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment, which keeps the government out of religion. Guthrie Graves Fitzsimmons
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They're literally saying that the founders just didn't get it right w/ the whole "checks & balances" thing, and were wrong about limiting executive power.

They would have loved living under a King. The current crop of conservatives wouldn't have supported our Revolution.
 
At this point, 'Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones.
A well-funded coalition wants to put the Bible ahead of the Constitution.:whoa:

If this fanatical “Project 2025” if implemented would be the end of democracy and freedom in this country too?!!


You may have noticed, but you probably didn't, that here in the shebeen we have started to refer to the current right-wing politicians as conservatives rather than Republicans. "Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones, indicating that there is poison within. American conservatism, in virtually all its manifestations, is the poison.

It's why I have limited patience for many of our Never Trump allies. (Except for Stuart Stevens, who seems to take much the same long view that I do that many of them contributed not only to the ratfucking and nasty politics they so deplore now, but also to a series of godawful policies beginning with the narcotic fantasy of supply-side economics that has led them into the dark intellectual woods in which they now reside. It is the prion disease that always waxes and never wanes, that exists in a state of permanent relapse.

The Associated Press put together a precise prediction of the future course of the disease. It is not a promising diagnosis.



Led by the long-established Heritage Foundation think tank and fueled by former Trump administration officials, the far-reaching effort is essentially a government-in-waiting for the former president’s return — or any candidate who aligns with their ideals and can defeat President Joe Biden in 2024. With a nearly 1,000-page “Project 2025” handbook and an “army” of Americans, the idea is to have the civic infrastructure in place on Day One to commandeer, reshape and do away with what Republicans deride as the “deep state” bureaucracy, in part by firing as many as 50,000 federal workers. “We need to flood the zone with conservatives,” said Paul Dans, director of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project and a former Trump administration official who speaks with historical flourish about the undertaking. “This is a clarion call to come to Washington,” he said. “People need to lay down their tools, and step aside from their professional life and say, ‘This is my lifetime moment to serve.’”

The unprecedented effort is being orchestrated with dozens of right-flank organizations, many new to Washington, and represents a changed approach from conservatives, who traditionally have sought to limit the federal government by cutting federal taxes and slashing federal spending. Instead, Trump-era conservatives want to gut the “administrative state” from within, by ousting federal employees they believe are standing in the way of the president’s agenda and replacing them with like-minded officials more eager to fulfill a new executive’s approach to governing.

Sounds promising. But that first sentence is the key. This authoritarian wet dream is shared by enough elements of American conservatism that it is a perfect demonstration of what American conservatism is all about in 2023 CE. It isn't Trump. And it isn't a fluke change in our politics. It is what modern conservatism always has been— a vehicle to shove the nation's wealth upwards and to recreate an America run by inherited privilege and white skin.

“The president Day One will be a wrecking ball for the administrative state,” said Russ Vought, a former Trump administration official involved in the effort who is now president at the conservative Center for Renewing America. Much of the new president’s agenda would be accomplished by reinstating what’s called Schedule F — a Trump-era executive order that would reclassify tens of thousands of the 2 million federal employees as essentially at-will workers who could more easily be fired. Biden had rescinded the executive order upon taking office in 2021, but Trump — and other presidential hopefuls — now vow to reinstate it.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a44948964/conservatives-trump-2025-project/

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Instituting “biblically based” policies, saving souls and inducing Sabbath observance constitute a direct attack on religious freedom, a freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment, which keeps the government out of religion. Guthrie Graves Fitzsimmons
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It's not conservatism in any way. It's ideology turned into despotism.
 
They're literally saying that the founders just didn't get it right w/ the whole "checks & balances" thing, and were wrong about limiting executive power.

They would have loved living under a King. The current crop of conservatives wouldn't have supported our Revolution.





You need to start off by deciding for yourself - (if you're not an atheist) - which of the world religions is the TRUE religion. Is it: Christianity; Islam; Hinduism; Buddhism, etc ?


Naturally, there can only be ONE True religion.


When you decide which of the world religions is TRUE, then contemplate this quotation from the Apocrypha (1 Edras 4:35)...


"Great is TRUTH and mighty above all things."


If you decide - for argument's sake - that Christianity is the one, TRUE religion, then it "great and mighty" above all things. Given this, is should be privileged/blended with political power in order that it can be efficiently and effectively promulgated throughout the nation (America).Right, dude?



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM....Dachshund Lives Matter !!
 
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At this point, 'Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones.
A well-funded coalition wants to put the Bible ahead of the Constitution.:whoa:

If this fanatical “Project 2025” if implemented would be the end of democracy and freedom in this country too?!!


You may have noticed, but you probably didn't, that here in the shebeen we have started to refer to the current right-wing politicians as conservatives rather than Republicans. "Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones, indicating that there is poison within. American conservatism, in virtually all its manifestations, is the poison.

It's why I have limited patience for many of our Never Trump allies. (Except for Stuart Stevens, who seems to take much the same long view that I do that many of them contributed not only to the ratfucking and nasty politics they so deplore now, but also to a series of godawful policies beginning with the narcotic fantasy of supply-side economics that has led them into the dark intellectual woods in which they now reside. It is the prion disease that always waxes and never wanes, that exists in a state of permanent relapse.

The Associated Press put together a precise prediction of the future course of the disease. It is not a promising diagnosis.



Led by the long-established Heritage Foundation think tank and fueled by former Trump administration officials, the far-reaching effort is essentially a government-in-waiting for the former president’s return — or any candidate who aligns with their ideals and can defeat President Joe Biden in 2024. With a nearly 1,000-page “Project 2025” handbook and an “army” of Americans, the idea is to have the civic infrastructure in place on Day One to commandeer, reshape and do away with what Republicans deride as the “deep state” bureaucracy, in part by firing as many as 50,000 federal workers. “We need to flood the zone with conservatives,” said Paul Dans, director of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project and a former Trump administration official who speaks with historical flourish about the undertaking. “This is a clarion call to come to Washington,” he said. “People need to lay down their tools, and step aside from their professional life and say, ‘This is my lifetime moment to serve.’”

The unprecedented effort is being orchestrated with dozens of right-flank organizations, many new to Washington, and represents a changed approach from conservatives, who traditionally have sought to limit the federal government by cutting federal taxes and slashing federal spending. Instead, Trump-era conservatives want to gut the “administrative state” from within, by ousting federal employees they believe are standing in the way of the president’s agenda and replacing them with like-minded officials more eager to fulfill a new executive’s approach to governing.

Sounds promising. But that first sentence is the key. This authoritarian wet dream is shared by enough elements of American conservatism that it is a perfect demonstration of what American conservatism is all about in 2023 CE. It isn't Trump. And it isn't a fluke change in our politics. It is what modern conservatism always has been— a vehicle to shove the nation's wealth upwards and to recreate an America run by inherited privilege and white skin.

“The president Day One will be a wrecking ball for the administrative state,” said Russ Vought, a former Trump administration official involved in the effort who is now president at the conservative Center for Renewing America. Much of the new president’s agenda would be accomplished by reinstating what’s called Schedule F — a Trump-era executive order that would reclassify tens of thousands of the 2 million federal employees as essentially at-will workers who could more easily be fired. Biden had rescinded the executive order upon taking office in 2021, but Trump — and other presidential hopefuls — now vow to reinstate it.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a44948964/conservatives-trump-2025-project/

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Instituting “biblically based” policies, saving souls and inducing Sabbath observance constitute a direct attack on religious freedom, a freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment, which keeps the government out of religion. Guthrie Graves Fitzsimmons
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Ooooooh !! Be careful, Kenneth - watch your back, dude. The Trumper, White Christian Nationalists have got your number, baby ! There a gunnin' for you man, and when they find you they're a gonna kick yo Black ass - BIG TIME! Be afraid, Signalman, BE VERY AFRAID !!



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM....Dachshund Lives Matter !!
 
They're literally saying that the founders just didn't get it right w/ the whole "checks & balances" thing, and were wrong about limiting executive power.

They would have loved living under a King. The current crop of conservatives wouldn't have supported our Revolution.

You realize dont you that there is a leftist moron on this very site that has said a first year law student could write a better constitution than the one the founders wrote? And how often have we heard the constitution is a "living breathing document" from you fucking idiots but now the constitution is sacrosanct. You need to stop fucking talking.
 
All forms of Fundamentalism, whether Taliban or Christian, will ALWAYS seek to take power (government and military) and then force their way of life and choices on others.


Religion by definition operates on 'FAITH' and not facts, truth or logic, which means even when all facts, truth and logic diverge from faith, they will simply 'have faith' they are correct and plow ahead with the wrong decision regardless.

It is terrible dangerous, and as we see anti logic, anti science, and fact and truth, as only the 'faith' matters.

You see how easily once support of Trump became a matter of faith, how easily then truth, fact, evidence and science could be thrown aside.
 
You realize dont you that there is a leftist moron on this very site that has said a first year law student could write a better constitution than the one the founders wrote? And how often have we heard the constitution is a "living breathing document" from you fucking idiots but now the constitution is sacrosanct. You need to stop fucking talking.

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You need to start off by deciding for yourself - (if you're not an atheist) - which of the world religions is the TRUE religion. Is it: Christianity; Islam; Hinduism; Buddhism, etc ?


Naturally, there can only be ONE True religion.


When you decide which of the world religions is TRUE, then contemplate this quotation from the Apocrypha (1 Edras 4:35)...


"Great is TRUTH and mighty above all things."


If you decide - for argument's sake - that Christianity is the one, TRUE religion, then it "great and mighty" above all things. Given this, is should be privileged/blended with political power in order that it can be efficiently and effectively promulgated throughout the nation (America).Right, dude?



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM....Dachshund Lives Matter !!

It is small minded, not natural, to say “there can be only one true religion”. It’s possible there can be no true religion. It’s possible that any faith that adheres to the same principles as other faiths is a true religion. It’s possible there is but one true religion but it’s not a given.
 
At this point, 'Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones.
A well-funded coalition wants to put the Bible ahead of the Constitution.:whoa:

If this fanatical “Project 2025” if implemented would be the end of democracy and freedom in this country too?!!


You may have noticed, but you probably didn't, that here in the shebeen we have started to refer to the current right-wing politicians as conservatives rather than Republicans. "Republican" is just the name on the label, right there next to the yellow sticker with the skull and crossbones, indicating that there is poison within. American conservatism, in virtually all its manifestations, is the poison.

It's why I have limited patience for many of our Never Trump allies. (Except for Stuart Stevens, who seems to take much the same long view that I do that many of them contributed not only to the ratfucking and nasty politics they so deplore now, but also to a series of godawful policies beginning with the narcotic fantasy of supply-side economics that has led them into the dark intellectual woods in which they now reside. It is the prion disease that always waxes and never wanes, that exists in a state of permanent relapse.

The Associated Press put together a precise prediction of the future course of the disease. It is not a promising diagnosis.



Led by the long-established Heritage Foundation think tank and fueled by former Trump administration officials, the far-reaching effort is essentially a government-in-waiting for the former president’s return — or any candidate who aligns with their ideals and can defeat President Joe Biden in 2024. With a nearly 1,000-page “Project 2025” handbook and an “army” of Americans, the idea is to have the civic infrastructure in place on Day One to commandeer, reshape and do away with what Republicans deride as the “deep state” bureaucracy, in part by firing as many as 50,000 federal workers. “We need to flood the zone with conservatives,” said Paul Dans, director of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project and a former Trump administration official who speaks with historical flourish about the undertaking. “This is a clarion call to come to Washington,” he said. “People need to lay down their tools, and step aside from their professional life and say, ‘This is my lifetime moment to serve.’”

The unprecedented effort is being orchestrated with dozens of right-flank organizations, many new to Washington, and represents a changed approach from conservatives, who traditionally have sought to limit the federal government by cutting federal taxes and slashing federal spending. Instead, Trump-era conservatives want to gut the “administrative state” from within, by ousting federal employees they believe are standing in the way of the president’s agenda and replacing them with like-minded officials more eager to fulfill a new executive’s approach to governing.

Sounds promising. But that first sentence is the key. This authoritarian wet dream is shared by enough elements of American conservatism that it is a perfect demonstration of what American conservatism is all about in 2023 CE. It isn't Trump. And it isn't a fluke change in our politics. It is what modern conservatism always has been— a vehicle to shove the nation's wealth upwards and to recreate an America run by inherited privilege and white skin.

“The president Day One will be a wrecking ball for the administrative state,” said Russ Vought, a former Trump administration official involved in the effort who is now president at the conservative Center for Renewing America. Much of the new president’s agenda would be accomplished by reinstating what’s called Schedule F — a Trump-era executive order that would reclassify tens of thousands of the 2 million federal employees as essentially at-will workers who could more easily be fired. Biden had rescinded the executive order upon taking office in 2021, but Trump — and other presidential hopefuls — now vow to reinstate it.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a44948964/conservatives-trump-2025-project/

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Instituting “biblically based” policies, saving souls and inducing Sabbath observance constitute a direct attack on religious freedom, a freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment, which keeps the government out of religion. Guthrie Graves Fitzsimmons
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The current crop of conservatives wouldn't have supported OUR Revolution.



YOURRevolution was triggered by Thomas Jefferson's "Declaration of Independence," baby. Jefferson copied the famous lines: "We had these truths to be self evident...etc" from the work of John Locke, spccifically, hid famous, "Second Treatise on Government" (1689) He also copied the moral justification for the colonist's revolution from the same book by John Locke.



John Locke was a 17th century English, Enlightenment thinker who is regarded as one the greatest political philosophers of all time. His political theory was largely inspired and shaped by his Christian faith (Lock was a very devout Protestant) and his Christian doctrine of the God (biblical) -ordained, Natural (moral) Law. This is where Jefferson lifted his unalienable (Natural) Rights to: Life. Liberty and the pursuit of happiness/(private property).
from.



As for the 52 Founding Fathers, they were almost entirely White, Anglo-American Protestants. As for the rag-tag, rebel colonists who fought and - against all odds - defeated the mighty, British war machine; they too, were almost entirely White, Anglo-American Protestant Christians. The colomists won their independence on the battlefields of the Revolution. . The land they stood on in 1783 WAS NOW THEIR LAND - THEIR turf.. They were White Christians (Protestants) and the Founders wanted the new republic to stay that way - as a nation of White (European) Christians. The Constitution was designed specifically and explicitly for the governance a White (North-Western), European, CHRISTIAN people. FULL STOP.




Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM....Dachshund Lives Matter !!
 
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You realize dont you that there is a leftist moron on this very site that has said a first year law student could write a better constitution than the one the founders wrote? And how often have we heard the constitution is a "living breathing document" from you fucking idiots but now the constitution is sacrosanct. You need to stop fucking talking.

You're lumping me in w/ the far left.

I have never stated that it's a living, breathing document.
 
Heritage foundation is a massive public opinion shaping organization funded by big secret money from the greedy super-rich. Their goal is to get Republican voters to give them absolute power. They must first divide America to do it. A united well informed populace cannot be coerced to vote against it's own better interest.

We must continue to spread the information about this sinister mechanism of greed so more people wise up and stop falling for their propaganda. It scientifically studies how to get the most people to respond to their will and then enacts it's findings upon the unsuspecting public. If we are smart and avoid falling for it we will have a much better country that serves us, not the rich.
 
Hello Martin,

It is small minded, not natural, to say “there can be only one true religion”. It’s possible there can be no true religion. It’s possible that any faith that adheres to the same principles as other faiths is a true religion. It’s possible there is but one true religion but it’s not a given.

Any religion that is forced upon others is no true religion at all.

It's bad enough that most religions use indoctrination of children as their means of expansion and continuance. It is forced on unsuspecting kids by their own parents. Good parents and fair religions would let the kid grow up first and only try to convince them to join after they are adults and capable of making their own life-altering decisions.

Maybe they don't want to. But they are not given that chance. "Get dressed. It's almost time to go to church." No choice allowed. It's child abuse.

And they think they can expand this to be the way the government treats citizens???
 
If red states truly want theocracy,
I believe that they deserve to have what they want.

They just need to do it as a separate nation.
The very concept is intolerable to the blue state intellect.
 
Republicans are Self-Righteous and think they are Superior! Not just because they believe that they are Christians- BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE AND REPUBLICAN!

Superiority and power over others is their entire ideology and main thrust!

Republicans have completely eliminated the word Democracy from their vocabulary!

When fair elections do not work for them, they are determined to try and take power by force by any means.

Even Republican Congressmen are now threatening Civil War!

Should the Republicans win the White House in the upcoming election, Democracy will be lost forever in the USA. Because there will never be another fair election.
 
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Republicans are Self-Righteous and think they are Superior! Not just because they believe that they are Christians- BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE AND REPUBLICAN!

Superiority over others is their ideology and main thrust!

The Republican leadership, a tiny cartel of billionaire oligarchs, have no ideology.
They like anybody from whom they can extract money.

The Republican rank and file has to be told that they're superior to somebody.
The way they live, not having delusions would precipitate suicide.

The oligarchs know
how to make the broke-ass rank and file
vote just as if they were oligarchs too.

It's really fascinating, even if it is discouraging and even tragic,
to see.
 
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