America's gun situation: SOS, different deaths.

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!

Here's something I posted 10 years ago. Hopefully the link still works. It was an article about a grade schoolgirl who got her brains blown out when she was at a firing range, being given an UZI to "practice" with under the supervision of an instructor (with the parents' permission). Sadly, things have not fared much better since. Seems some people just never learn:


By now, this story is international

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What drives me crazy is that zealot gun lovers/owners will bend over backwards to somehow justify or downplay this incident.

Let's be clear, folks: An Uzi is a weapon of war. It was designed to kill people .... a number of people in a short period of time. It was NOT designed for target practice, or to hunt animals for food.

So the question that immediately comes to mind is, what the hell is this kid "practicing" for?

I venture that this mindset goes back 30-some-odd years when the "survivalist" trend was in full swing. These were folk who saw the end of civilization as we know it was just around the corner and devoted a portion of their lives to preparing for the cataclysm. They did this by securing "secret" hide-a-ways and outposts stocked with freeze dried foods, potable water and water purification devices, medicines, clothing.....and guns. Lot's of guns. Parallel to these people were the separatists....groups who just couldn't stand the federal government taking their tax dollars for things like the Civil Rights (Fair Housing) Act of 1968, etc. They all ran to remote parts of various states, set up their own communes...and waited. I always wondered are they still waiting. But in any event, these folks were ready to "defend" their property and family against "them" (be they the government or a particular race, creed or color).

So a kid "practicing" with an Uzi would fit right in with an over 30-year-old paranoia that never saw its realization. but unfortunately, the instructor and the kid (and her parents, relatives and friends) all learned a hard lesson that maybe a CHILD shouldn't be handling a weapon of war as some sort of "fun" practice game. Hell, you have accidents in law enforcement and the military with recruits learning to handle weapons from time to time. So why risk it with kids?

And here's a thought .... when we see videos of "child soldiers" in parts of Africa, or grade school kids in celebration waving and shooting automatic weapons in the middle east, Americans are repelled and horrified. So why turn such a thing into a "game" or "entertainment" for children here?

When I was a kid, I played "war" with all my friends. We had the toy guns and rifles ... and ran around pretending to kill the other guy/girl "soldiers". But I GREW UP, and LEARNED WHAT REAL WAR IS AND WHAT IT DOES TO PEOPLE. My father was a cop ... a homicide detective...so I LEARNED WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE SHOT WITH VARIOUS WEAPONS. So, unless I was enlisting in the military or joining law enforcement, I had no need to have a gun. Maybe if I were a homeowner, I might get one for home protection .... but that would be a handgun, and I would receive proper training ..... I wouldn't need an automatic weapon that belongs in the field of battle. And since I wasn't raised to hunt for food as a past time, I wouldn't need a rifle or shot gun.

I am afraid that this latest incident is yet another milestone moment that unfortunately will be ignored by those who think having a military style weapon in a civilian setting will give them peace of mind. A pity.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Here's something I posted 10 years ago. Hopefully the link still works. It was an article about a grade schoolgirl who got her brains blown out when she was at a firing range, being given an UZI to "practice" with under the supervision of an instructor (with the parents' permission). Sadly, things have not fared much better since. Seems some people just never learn:


By now, this story is international

Loading…

www.cnn.com


What drives me crazy is that zealot gun lovers/owners will bend over backwards to somehow justify or downplay this incident.

Let's be clear, folks: An Uzi is a weapon of war. It was designed to kill people .... a number of people in a short period of time. It was NOT designed for target practice, or to hunt animals for food.

So the question that immediately comes to mind is, what the hell is this kid "practicing" for?

I venture that this mindset goes back 30-some-odd years when the "survivalist" trend was in full swing. These were folk who saw the end of civilization as we know it was just around the corner and devoted a portion of their lives to preparing for the cataclysm. They did this by securing "secret" hide-a-ways and outposts stocked with freeze dried foods, potable water and water purification devices, medicines, clothing.....and guns. Lot's of guns. Parallel to these people were the separatists....groups who just couldn't stand the federal government taking their tax dollars for things like the Civil Rights (Fair Housing) Act of 1968, etc. They all ran to remote parts of various states, set up their own communes...and waited. I always wondered are they still waiting. But in any event, these folks were ready to "defend" their property and family against "them" (be they the government or a particular race, creed or color).

So a kid "practicing" with an Uzi would fit right in with an over 30-year-old paranoia that never saw its realization. but unfortunately, the instructor and the kid (and her parents, relatives and friends) all learned a hard lesson that maybe a CHILD shouldn't be handling a weapon of war as some sort of "fun" practice game. Hell, you have accidents in law enforcement and the military with recruits learning to handle weapons from time to time. So why risk it with kids?

And here's a thought .... when we see videos of "child soldiers" in parts of Africa, or grade school kids in celebration waving and shooting automatic weapons in the middle east, Americans are repelled and horrified. So why turn such a thing into a "game" or "entertainment" for children here?

When I was a kid, I played "war" with all my friends. We had the toy guns and rifles ... and ran around pretending to kill the other guy/girl "soldiers". But I GREW UP, and LEARNED WHAT REAL WAR IS AND WHAT IT DOES TO PEOPLE. My father was a cop ... a homicide detective...so I LEARNED WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE SHOT WITH VARIOUS WEAPONS. So, unless I was enlisting in the military or joining law enforcement, I had no need to have a gun. Maybe if I were a homeowner, I might get one for home protection .... but that would be a handgun, and I would receive proper training ..... I wouldn't need an automatic weapon that belongs in the field of battle. And since I wasn't raised to hunt for food as a past time, I wouldn't need a rifle or shot gun.

I am afraid that this latest incident is yet another milestone moment that unfortunately will be ignored by those who think having a military style weapon in a civilian setting will give them peace of mind. A pity.
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What an annoying post, like you are going out of your way to be a Dick.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Here's something I posted 10 years ago. Hopefully the link still works. It was an article about a grade schoolgirl who got her brains blown out when she was at a firing range, being given an UZI to "practice" with under the supervision of an instructor (with the parents' permission). Sadly, things have not fared much better since. Seems some people just never learn:


By now, this story is international

Loading…

www.cnn.com


What drives me crazy is that zealot gun lovers/owners will bend over backwards to somehow justify or downplay this incident.

Let's be clear, folks: An Uzi is a weapon of war. It was designed to kill people .... a number of people in a short period of time. It was NOT designed for target practice, or to hunt animals for food.

So the question that immediately comes to mind is, what the hell is this kid "practicing" for?

I venture that this mindset goes back 30-some-odd years when the "survivalist" trend was in full swing. These were folk who saw the end of civilization as we know it was just around the corner and devoted a portion of their lives to preparing for the cataclysm. They did this by securing "secret" hide-a-ways and outposts stocked with freeze dried foods, potable water and water purification devices, medicines, clothing.....and guns. Lot's of guns. Parallel to these people were the separatists....groups who just couldn't stand the federal government taking their tax dollars for things like the Civil Rights (Fair Housing) Act of 1968, etc. They all ran to remote parts of various states, set up their own communes...and waited. I always wondered are they still waiting. But in any event, these folks were ready to "defend" their property and family against "them" (be they the government or a particular race, creed or color).

So a kid "practicing" with an Uzi would fit right in with an over 30-year-old paranoia that never saw its realization. but unfortunately, the instructor and the kid (and her parents, relatives and friends) all learned a hard lesson that maybe a CHILD shouldn't be handling a weapon of war as some sort of "fun" practice game. Hell, you have accidents in law enforcement and the military with recruits learning to handle weapons from time to time. So why risk it with kids?

And here's a thought .... when we see videos of "child soldiers" in parts of Africa, or grade school kids in celebration waving and shooting automatic weapons in the middle east, Americans are repelled and horrified. So why turn such a thing into a "game" or "entertainment" for children here?

When I was a kid, I played "war" with all my friends. We had the toy guns and rifles ... and ran around pretending to kill the other guy/girl "soldiers". But I GREW UP, and LEARNED WHAT REAL WAR IS AND WHAT IT DOES TO PEOPLE. My father was a cop ... a homicide detective...so I LEARNED WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE SHOT WITH VARIOUS WEAPONS. So, unless I was enlisting in the military or joining law enforcement, I had no need to have a gun. Maybe if I were a homeowner, I might get one for home protection .... but that would be a handgun, and I would receive proper training ..... I wouldn't need an automatic weapon that belongs in the field of battle. And since I wasn't raised to hunt for food as a past time, I wouldn't need a rifle or shot gun.

I am afraid that this latest incident is yet another milestone moment that unfortunately will be ignored by those who think having a military style weapon in a civilian setting will give them peace of mind. A pity.
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I find it pretty far fetched that your father was a homicide detective and you learned what happens to people shot with various weapons yet have never had any training on safe gun operation.

These phony stories always have holes in them those familiar with the subject matter can spot a mile away.
 
Joe said:
If this post could just get one gun owner to get rid of their weapon

There would still be 399,999,999 more in America:ROFLMAO:
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What's so funny, toodles? Who said we should get rid of all the guns? Are you such a troll minded gun monkey that you don't get the point of the OP and it's linked article? WTF is wrong with you?
 
Joe said:
I find it pretty far fetched that your father was a homicide detective and you learned what happens to people shot with various weapons yet have never had any training on safe gun operation.

These phony stories always have holes in them those familiar with the subject matter can spot a mile away.
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Why is that "far fetched"? What proof have you that EVERY child of a police officer in America has had training with guns? As kids, we knew where the guns were and didn't touch them, as our parents laid down the law and we knew better than to disobey. Same went for the 3 other households (suburban NY) in my neighborhood where cops were the husbands. Whether you believe that or not is of no consequence.

What is "phony" about the linked article, toodles? What is "phony" about any of my assessments? See, it's easy for gun monkeys like yourself to blow smoke, but taken to task on details, facts and logic is where you come up short.

But of course, you could always prove me wrong. I'll wait.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Why is that "far fetched"? What proof have you that EVERY child of a police officer in America has had training with guns? As kids, we knew where the guns were and didn't touch them, as our parents laid down the law and we knew better than to disobey. Same went for the 3 other households (suburban NY) in my neighborhood where cops were the husbands. Whether you believe that or not is of no consequence.

What is "phony" about the linked article, toodles? What is "phony" about any of my assessments? See, it's easy for gun monkeys like yourself to blow smoke, but taken to task on details, facts and logic is where you come up short.

But of course, you could always prove me wrong. I'll wait.
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I don't need to prove anything to you sweet tits.

It's a bunch of bullshit designed to scare people who are not experienced with firearms and sway them to the gun grabbing cult.

And that's final so save your fingers for some other idiotic post.
 
Joe said:
I don't need to prove anything to you sweet tits.

It's a bunch of bullshit designed to scare people who are not experienced with firearms and sway them to the gun grabbing cult.

And that's final so save your fingers for some other idiotic post.
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1. Right, you just blow smoke out of your ass to substitute for a rational, logical and fact based discussion. Typical gun monkey troll mentality.

2. Again, are you saying the article is false? Can you logically or factually disprove anything I referenced? Or are you going to stop your feet like a petulant child and parrot your BS ad nausea?

3. Wow, "that's final"! :ROFLMAO: So we can all rest easy knowing that we won't have to endure another intellectually impotent post from you on this thread. Beautiful! Adios, toodles!
 
Taichiliberal said:
1. Right, you just blow smoke out of your ass to substitute for a rational, logical and fact based discussion. Typical gun monkey troll mentality.

2. Again, are you saying the article is false? Can you logically or factually disprove anything I referenced? Or are you going to stop your feet like a petulant child and parrot your BS ad nausea?

3. Wow, "that's final"! :ROFLMAO: So we can all rest easy knowing that we won't have to endure another intellectually impotent post from you on this thread. Beautiful! Adios, toodles!
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It's articles like this that do nothing but promote massive disinformation, false stereotypes, and emotional angst designed to trigger cowards and statists.

Some things to realize about real life these days are as follows......

1. Guns are here to stay.
2. Those that have ill intent, criminal and malicious human beings, are never going to surrender their guns and will almost always strive to obtain guns
3. If one wants to live with freedom of will, one needs to learn how to live with guns. Learn how to use them. Learn how to keep them secure and implement safety measures with them.
4. This includes, as a MAJOR portion of their use in society, training kids how to respect them, use them, and employ all aspects of gun safety with them.

This dead instructor failed in all aspects of gun safety and, as a result, darwins law showed it's face.
 
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