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Limbaugh: "The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."

That's just amazing.
 
Onceler said:
Limbaugh: "The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."

That's just amazing.
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That is completely screwed up. And people still take him serious? Or will this be one of those "Its just entertainment" answers?
 
webbway said:
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That's the same thing I said, when I heard Obama invited James Cameron (Titanic, Avatar Movie director) to discuss strategies to solve the BP oil leak.
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Except that James Cameron has a degree in physics and has had extensive experience in working with remote cameras and underwater robotics. He has participated in deep water research and exploration, done numerous deep submarine dives, and knows everyone who is anyone in the deep water research and exploration world.

If he just directed movies, you might have a point. But he has done far more than that.

And why would BP reject the assistance of Cameron and the scientific group he assembled? They have equipment and knowledge that could make a huge difference. Yet they were dismissed.
 
WinterBorn said:
Except that James Cameron has a degree in physics and has had extensive experience in working with remote cameras and underwater robotics. He has participated in deep water research and exploration, done numerous deep submarine dives, and knows everyone who is anyone in the deep water research and exploration world.

If he just directed movies, you might have a point. But he has done far more than that.

And why would BP reject the assistance of Cameron and the scientific group he assembled? They have equipment and knowledge that could make a huge difference. Yet they were dismissed.
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ROTFLMAO Dweebway pwned again! LOL LOL LOL
 
I have a really funny feeling (due to the source of this thread) that Limbaugh said a whole lot more than this one sentence, and in context, probably made a legitimate and valid point. Your problem is, and we see it here often with my posts and others on the right, you don't understand or comprehend context. You'll glum on to one sentence or a phrase, and myopically focus on that alone, and twist the perspective and context to distort what was said. It's about the most intellectually dishonest tactic you could ever employ, but you do this all the time and think you are being 'intellectual' in debate. What you are really being is a fucktard who doesn't have enough sense to understand context, and you are illustrating it for the whole world to see.
 
Dixie said:
I have a really funny feeling (due to the source of this thread) that Limbaugh said a whole lot more than this one sentence, and in context, probably made a legitimate and valid point. Your problem is, and we see it here often with my posts and others on the right, you don't understand or comprehend context. You'll glum on to one sentence or a phrase, and myopically focus on that alone, and twist the perspective and context to distort what was said. It's about the most intellectually dishonest tactic you could ever employ, but you do this all the time and think you are being 'intellectual' in debate. What you are really being is a fucktard who doesn't have enough sense to understand context, and you are illustrating it for the whole world to see.
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Well, before drawing those definitive & hyper-partisan conclusions, it sure would be nice if you'd look it up & show me how I took this out of context.

This kind of BS is par for the course for Limbaugh, and you know it. You just adore him, so try for some sort of idiotic, brain-dead attack on me, instead.
 
Dixie said:
I have a really funny feeling (due to the source of this thread) that Limbaugh said a whole lot more than this one sentence, and in context, probably made a legitimate and valid point. Your problem is, and we see it here often with my posts and others on the right, you don't understand or comprehend context. You'll glum on to one sentence or a phrase, and myopically focus on that alone, and twist the perspective and context to distort what was said. It's about the most intellectually dishonest tactic you could ever employ, but you do this all the time and think you are being 'intellectual' in debate. What you are really being is a fucktard who doesn't have enough sense to understand context, and you are illustrating it for the whole world to see.
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In what context could what he said be acceptable?

There have been roughly 4 million gals of oil spilled into the gulf. To try and call that "natural" or to try and excuse it by saying "the ocean will take care of its own" is just bullshit.

Not only from an environmental standpoint, but from an economic standpoint, this is an unmitigated disastor.
 
In what context could what he said be acceptable?
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In the context that the ocean is self-cleaning and will eventually take care of the oil, which is actually a very small amount in relation to total oil spillage in the ocean each year. That's not saying we don't need to do anything, and clean up isn't important, it certainly is, and especially where it is making contact with the coastline and killing wildlife, but the actual oil in the ocean is not as big a problem as people (mainly on the left) are making it out to be.
 
Dixie said:
In the context that the ocean is self-cleaning and will eventually take care of the oil, which is actually a very small amount in relation to total oil spillage in the ocean each year. That's not saying we don't need to do anything, and clean up isn't important, it certainly is, and especially where it is making contact with the coastline and killing wildlife, but the actual oil in the ocean is not as big a problem as people (mainly on the left) are making it out to be.
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Oh, yeah - it's all just a big wildlife, "extreme greenie" thing.

Dixie, people are about to lose their jobs for good. There are fishermen & oystermen & all the rest who have been doing what they do for decades - it's all they know - who are about to lose their livelihoods, or already have. There is a tourism industry in the Gulf - you may have heard of it - that's about to lose countless dollars, thereby affecting more jobs.

You don't get it. Limbaugh doesn't get it.
 
Onceler said:
Limbaugh: "The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."

That's just amazing.
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People will always listen to these demagogues. The more outrageous and ridiculous they become, the higher their listener count will be. And when a Democrat is president they go on overdrive. God knows Clinton was as moderate as they come, maybe even center-right in any rational context, but they made him seem left of Lenin.
 
People like Limbaugh and Beck have an important part to play in the conservative movement, taking the right flank so that they can enable "moderate" Republicans to push "compromises" that would've been seen as beyond fathoming before the conservative revolution. It doesn't matter how crazy their rhetoric gets; the crazier it gets, the further they drive the nation to the right as the Democrats desperately try to capture the constantly right-moving "center".
 
Dixie said:
In the context that the ocean is self-cleaning and will eventually take care of the oil, which is actually a very small amount in relation to total oil spillage in the ocean each year. That's not saying we don't need to do anything, and clean up isn't important, it certainly is, and especially where it is making contact with the coastline and killing wildlife, but the actual oil in the ocean is not as big a problem as people (mainly on the left) are making it out to be.
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WTF??? So, since the relative volume is small (compared to the water in the ocean or the total spillage worldwide), its not as big a problem as people on the left are making it out to be???

The fact that billions of lost revenues in tourism are not enough of a reason for this to be a huge issue, the US gets roughly a third of its seafood off the coast of Louisianna, and the number of migratory birds that use the Louisianna wetlands is significant enough to cause problems for entire species of animals.


Here is a tidbit for you:

"Twenty years after the Exxon Valdez spilled 11 million gallons of crude oil in Alaska's Prince William Sound, oil persists in the region and, in some places, "is nearly as toxic as it was the first few weeks after the spill," according to the council overseeing restoration efforts.

"This Exxon Valdez oil is decreasing at a rate of 0-4 percent per year," the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council stated in a report marking Tuesday's 20th anniversary of the worst oil spill in U.S. waters. "At this rate, the remaining oil will take decades and possibly centuries to disappear entirely."


And the environment in which the Valdez dumped its oil is vastly different. The cold waters of the Northwest are not as delicate as the wetlands of the coast of Lousianna.



And one of the reasons the fiasco in the gulf has angered so many (in addition to the obvious damages) is that it has been going on for so fucking long. The explosion occurred on April 20th. It is now June 7th and they still haven't stopped the spillage. The main reasons behind the time it has taken is the carelessness of BP. The number of serious OSHA citations against BP is amazing. And they still didn't change their way of doing things.
 
Dixie said:
In the context that the ocean is self-cleaning and will eventually take care of the oil, which is actually a very small amount in relation to total oil spillage in the ocean each year. That's not saying we don't need to do anything, and clean up isn't important, it certainly is, and especially where it is making contact with the coastline and killing wildlife,

but the actual oil in the ocean is not as big a problem as people (mainly on the left) are making it out to be.
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Outstanding! I was wondering how long it would be before Drill Baby, Drill comedy troupe would come full circle on this.

This crap started out with a buttload of cons downplaying the significance of the disaster.

It morphed into the hilarious “natural seeps are just as bad!” comedy routine; just prior before it morphed into the “liberals forced BP to drill deep water” nonsense……..

And now where back to square one…..downplaying the environmental and economic impacts.

Dixie, everyone knows the ocean will recover eventually. Limbaugh doesn’t need to lecture anyone on that. Indeed, the families of the soldiers you and Bush sent to die in Iraq will eventually come to closure too, but nobody lectures them that they’ll eventually “get over it”.

With regard to your comical forays into scientific pontification: Stop making asinine comments, assertions, and guesses for which you have neither the background, the knowledge, or the experience to make. Nobody knows what a spill of this size is going to do to the Gulf. This is uncharted waters. That well ain’t going to be plugged until August at the earliest. And listen up, my merry little Iraq war-supporter, it’s the shit that happens farther down in the food chain, and where we can’t visually observe it, that ultimately could affect the lives of gulf coast fisherman and shrimpers. It's the shit I can't see that scares me. Not to mention the national treasure of those wetlands down there represent getting effed over. I’ve seen BP fumbling and flailing around enough to come to that conclusion that this well is going to spew for months. In fact, I pretty much knew within a week of this spill that BP was flying by the seat of their pants and it was spiraling into a clusterfuck. So good luck making wild assed guesses and Limbaugh-esque speculations. That shit might play on Drudge, but all bets are off on how long and whether the gulf and the fishing industry can recover.

Meanwhile, enjoy the dead pelicans, Professor Drill Baby, Drill!
 
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Onceler said:
Oh, yeah - it's all just a big wildlife, "extreme greenie" thing.

Dixie, people are about to lose their jobs for good. There are fishermen & oystermen & all the rest who have been doing what they do for decades - it's all they know - who are about to lose their livelihoods, or already have. There is a tourism industry in the Gulf - you may have heard of it - that's about to lose countless dollars, thereby affecting more jobs.

You don't get it. Limbaugh doesn't get it.
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Oh I get it, and this is happening while your president entertains Paul McCartney at the White House, who is yucking it up with 4-year-old unfunny Bush jokes. I watch the news, I know what's going on, I heard Bobby Jindal request permission to construct sand berms to block the oil and be told that he couldn't because they hadn't done an ecological impact study. Yeah, I am fully aware that 40,000 barrels of oil a day are gushing into the gulf and causing irreparable damage to the coast, while this administration remains absolutely clueless on how to stop it.

Still... the ocean is self-cleaning, and will eventually cleanse itself of the excess oil. That's just an ecological fact of nature, it doesn't mean we don't need to clean up or do anything about the leak. You are putting it in THAT context, not me or Limbaugh.
 
Dixie, everyone knows the ocean will recover eventually. Limbaugh doesn’t need to lecture anyone on that.
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Then why the fuck is everybody quoting Limbaugh saying what everyone knows, and acting like he has two heads or something? He made a correct and accurate statement, but reading the OP it seems you think it is 'laughable' that Limbaugh said such a thing. As you just said, everyone knows the ocean will recover!
 
Onceler said:
Limbaugh: "The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."

That's just amazing.
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Limbaugh has made the claim that more oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico naturally, every year, than has spilled from Deepwater Horizon. As it turns out, this claim is actually true.

Oil seeps are fairly common around the world both underwater and above ground. Oil seeps occur when enough cracks and fissures form above a reservoir to enable a small quantity of oil to escape naturally. The La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles are a large terrestrial oil seep, and oil seeps have long been used to help identify submarine oil reserves. Oil seeps are prevalent in many bodies of water, and the Gulf of Mexico is no exception.

Oil seeps are more common than you think, both on land and underwater.

A satellite survey published in January of 2000 counted at least 600 natural oil seeps within the Gulf. And they release a lot of oil.

It is difficult to calculate underwater spill rates. Especially for 600+ sites. So the numbers here are pretty wide ranges, but the scale of the estimates is impressive.

A 2003 National Academies study estimated that about 980,000 barrels of oil, or about 41 million gallons, seep into the Gulf - every year. Recall that the Exxon Valdez is estimated to have spilled about 250,000 barrels.
More at link....
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/j/d/jdf15/2010/05/back-when-this-all-first.php
 
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