Another NAFTA: Peru Trade Deal

Cypress

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Watch how Hillary, Biden, Obama vote on this. It will be very telling.


money quote, from John Edwards:

"NAFTA, which was one of our worst trade agreements ever, was written by corporate interests and insiders in all three countries, and it has served them well." -- John Edwards

Edwards Press Release: Today I am announcing my opposition to the Peru Trade Agreement negotiated by the Bush Administration and being considered for approval by Congress. Despite strong efforts by many Democrats in Congress, labor organizations and fair trade advocates to embed international labor standards into the Agreement, what resulted were references to general principles and not specific standards. And the Agreement still replicates and in fact expands all of the other most damaging aspects of past trade agreements. In short, this agreement does not meet my standard of putting American workers and communities first, ahead of the interests of the big multinational corporations, which for too long have rigged our trade policies for themselves and against American families.


For far too long, presidents from both parties have entered into trade agreements, agreements like NAFTA in 1994 and the WTO in 1995, promising in each case that they would create millions of new jobs and trade surpluses. Instead, since these agreements were put into place we have lost millions of manufacturing jobs, seen wages decline, and storied U.S. firms close - and towns all over this country have been devastated. And we have run up larger and larger trade deficits. This irresponsible squandering of our national wealth now makes it increasingly difficult for us to control our own destiny.

NAFTA, which was one of our worst trade agreements ever, was written by corporate interests and insiders in all three countries, and it has served them well. But it absolutely hasn't served the interests of regular workers in any of the three countries. When NAFTA was passed, the American people were promised that by 2006 U.S. exports to Mexico would exceed Mexican imports by $10 billion. But right now, hundreds of thousands of lost American jobs later, Mexican imports are $70 billion more than U.S. exports to Mexico. And Mexican workers have lost too - average wages for Mexican workers have declined since NAFTA was passed.
 
Watch how Hillary, Biden, Obama vote on this. It will be very telling.


money quote, from John Edwards:

"NAFTA, which was one of our worst trade agreements ever, was written by corporate interests and insiders in all three countries, and it has served them well." -- John Edwards

You're right Edwards, after NAFTA passed, unemployment just skyrocketed in the late 90's and hell life just sucked in general didn't it?

Edwards is playing the lefty populist route, he knows damn well that free trade has benefited all overall.
 
Yep then that is why the supporters prwedictions about NAFTA were soo far off ? Because it worked so well ? Oops they were off in the bad direction not the good direction....
 
You're right Edwards, after NAFTA passed, unemployment just skyrocketed in the late 90's and hell life just sucked in general didn't it?

Edwards is playing the lefty populist route, he knows damn well that free trade has benefited all overall.


The guy you said you're voting for - Ron Paul - also opposes NAFTA/CAFTA/WTO style trade agreements.

"I don’t like this NAFTA and WTO managed trade because I don’t think the people are served. I think the special interests are served because they have the influence in these organizations." -- Ron Paul

He sounds a lot like Edwards, don't you think?
 
Yep then that is why the supporters prwedictions about NAFTA were soo far off ? Because it worked so well ? Oops they were off in the bad direction not the good direction....

Stop playing stupid word games. The facts are that after NAFTA passed, unemployment, the deficit and standard of living all improved dramatically.
When you pay less for imported goods, you have more disposable income to spend elsewhere like services, which is why you saw and see an upsurge in spending on things like massage therapy, tanning, fitness, etc...
We are living better because of free trade and other nations are too.

Fuck man, where the hell did all the centrist Democrats go? Bill Clinton supported this, so did Gore, stop being a bunch of ludditical anti-progressives.
 
Stop playing stupid word games. The facts are that after NAFTA passed, unemployment, the deficit and standard of living all improved dramatically.
When you pay less for imported goods, you have more disposable income to spend elsewhere like services, which is why you saw and see an upsurge in spending on things like massage therapy, tanning, fitness, etc...
We are living better because of free trade and other nations are too.

Fuck man, where the hell did all the centrist Democrats go? Bill Clinton supported this, so did Gore, stop being a bunch of ludditical anti-progressives.

And all this was because of NAFTA ?
No other factors were involved ?
Would things have worked out even better without NAFTA ?
 
The guy you said you're voting for - Ron Paul - also opposes NAFTA/CAFTA/WTO style trade agreements.

"I don’t like this NAFTA and WTO managed trade because I don’t think the people are served. I think the special interests are served because they have the influence in these organizations." -- Ron Paul

He sounds a lot like Edwards, don't you think?
No I don't and this is just more evidence of your deceipt you ratlike shit. Paul opposes the organizational part of it, not the concept.
 
No I don't and this is just more evidence of your deceipt you ratlike shit. Paul opposes the organizational part of it, not the concept.

I don't think you realized that the candidate you support is even more radical on NAFTA, than John Edwards. Edwards wants to modify it. Paul want to get rid of it.


Ron Paul Interviewed by Lou Dobbs

PAUL: ‘I don’t like this NAFTA and WTO managed trade because I don’t think the people are served. I think the special interests are served because they have the influence in these organizations.

LOU DOBBS: Would you either rewrite or rescind NAFTA?

PAUL: I’d get rid of NAFTA and WTO, for that matter. I certainly don’t want a North American Union and I’m sick of these plans for this highway coming through here that’s going to go from Mexico to Canada. That’s not my idea of national sovereignty.
 
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