Anti-Science Republicans


Well I guess the Anti Science lot have a pretty good argument. Look what their imaginary friend provides....er.....er... aw gee, lots o' thengs..like...er...modern medicine..er..nope. Err modern technology...nope...er...
Nope. that pie in the sky fairy friend actually supplies...nuttin'. zilch. nix. nada. bugger all. Still, yorl know he controls evertheng...he jess lurves starvin people and tsunamis n earthquakes n meteors n malaria n hurricanes. He's powerful alright. Suffer little children to come unto me and then I'll kill them. Yee Harr. And I'll shoot anyone who says mah bahble aint the true work of gard. Hallelujah.
 
“All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell,” Broun said at a banquet for a church sporting club. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”

Broun, who added that “I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old,” will remain on the science committee in the 113th Congress.

Nor is it just the rank and file members who have drawn attention with their pronouncements. The outgoing committee chair, Rep. Ralph Hall (R-TX), has suggested that climate change is the product of a mass global conspiracy of scientists — the overwhelming majority of whom have concluded that burning fossil fuels cause warming — to obtain grant money. In 2011, he told National Journal he didn’t believe climate change was man-made because “I don’t think we can control what God controls.”
 
Well I guess the Anti Science lot have a pretty good argument. Look what their imaginary friend provides....er.....er... aw gee, lots o' thengs..like...er...modern medicine..er..nope. Err modern technology...nope...er...
Nope. that pie in the sky fairy friend actually supplies...nuttin'. zilch. nix. nada. bugger all. Still, yorl know he controls evertheng...he jess lurves starvin people and tsunamis n earthquakes n meteors n malaria n hurricanes. He's powerful alright. Suffer little children to come unto me and then I'll kill them. Yee Harr. And I'll shoot anyone who says mah bahble aint the true work of gard. Hallelujah.

Priase the lord and pass the bullets!
 
I understand it fine. You argue that morality can be derived by the results of evolution and that we should base our laws on that. That sort of thinking leads to eugenics.

I never argued any such thing. And if you want to talk about eugenics, that sort of reasoning and support has always resided on the left

Woodrow Wilson
Margaret Sanger the Mother of the Abortion Mill
 
Whenever you have drawn definitive conclusion on anything, you have stopped practicing science and begun practicing faith. You are no longer asking questions, and instead, are exercising faith and belief in an idea you've concluded. Science does not conclude. Science continues to ponder the possibilities, to ask further questions, and never assumes to prove or disprove.

5% of the people on this planet, are Nihilists, which means 95% of us believe (have faith) in something greater than self. Some of these people have adopted Science as their religious faith, in place of more traditional and conventional organized religion. Some people have decided to use their faith in Science as a weapon to do battle against those who have religious faith. But faith, is still faith, and it's not Science.

When Science ponders the questions of things like climate or the origination of life, it posits theories and explores the various possibilities, but it never draws definitive conclusions, in fact, many of the speculations science has made through the ages, have proven to be incorrect or inaccurate, and theories have failed or been replaced with alternate versions. Science is a never-ending process of asking questions, and as soon as you've stopped asking questions and determined something to be conclusive, you have effectively stopped practicing scientific endeavor, and have adopted a faith. No different, really, than a Jehovah's Witness.
 
I never argued any such thing. And if you want to talk about eugenics, that sort of reasoning and support has always resided on the left

Woodrow Wilson
Margaret Sanger the Mother of the Abortion Mill

You argued that the evolution disapproves of allowing homosexuals raise children.

Nobody cares about your guilt by association to corpses. Those arguments are stale and useless.
 
Whenever you have drawn definitive conclusion on anything, you have stopped practicing science and begun practicing faith. You are no longer asking questions, and instead, are exercising faith and belief in an idea you've concluded. Science does not conclude. Science continues to ponder the possibilities, to ask further questions, and never assumes to prove or disprove.

5% of the people on this planet, are Nihilists, which means 95% of us believe (have faith) in something greater than self. Some of these people have adopted Science as their religious faith, in place of more traditional and conventional organized religion. Some people have decided to use their faith in Science as a weapon to do battle against those who have religious faith. But faith, is still faith, and it's not Science.

When Science ponders the questions of things like climate or the origination of life, it posits theories and explores the various possibilities, but it never draws definitive conclusions, in fact, many of the speculations science has made through the ages, have proven to be incorrect or inaccurate, and theories have failed or been replaced with alternate versions. Science is a never-ending process of asking questions, and as soon as you've stopped asking questions and determined something to be conclusive, you have effectively stopped practicing scientific endeavor, and have adopted a faith. No different, really, than a Jehovah's Witness.

You have been using that 5% number for years. You are not even able to provide a source for it anymore but you keep repeating it. You are lying about what it means too.

What science is showing that the earth is 9000 years old and that God alone controls our weather? That is not science. It is not asking questions. It is an attempt to prevent questions and science.
 
You have been using that 5% number for years. You are not even able to provide a source for it anymore but you keep repeating it. You are lying about what it means too.

What science is showing that the earth is 9000 years old and that God alone controls our weather? That is not science. It is not asking questions. It is an attempt to prevent questions and science.

Well, if you have information to refute that roughly 5% of the world population profess to be Nihilists, please enlighten me! What it means is simple, Nihilists believe in nothing. When we subtract these people from the whole, we come up with 95% who are not Nihilists, who do believe in something. There is no lying or reason to lie, this is just a statistic.

I have repeatedly pointed out, I live in the middle of the Bible Belt, and have lived here my whole life. In 54 years of being around devoutly religious believers, I have NEVER come across a single person who believes the Earth is 9,000 years old. I'm not saying they don't exist, but they are certainly a rarity, and not indicative of the typical religious believer. It is you who is being dishonest, and trying to make the argument that ALL believers in religion, subscribe to this line of thought, and that is simply not true.

The scientist who mapped the human genome, is a devout Christian believer in God. How can this be? How can he believe in God and ALSO believe in Science? Maybe it's because his religious faith doesn't rest in Science? Maybe it's because he understands science to be a never-ending quest for answers, not a faith to believe in?

Whenever you, or any other idiot, mutters the accusation "denies science" I can't help but laugh. In actuality, SCIENCE denies Science! The very nature and reasoning behind the Scientific Method, is to deny conclusion and presumption of finding. It is how Science perpetuates, and continues to be Science. Whenever you have drawn a conclusion from Science, and believe that Science has provided a definitive answer, you have stopped practicing Science and began practicing FAITH!
 
No. Lookup eugenics.

Yes.

eu·gen·ics/yuˈdʒɛn ɪks/ Show Spelled [yoo-jen-iks] Show IPA
noun, ( used with a singular verb )
the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, especially by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics)

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=eugenics+definition&ei=UTF-8&fr=w3i&type=W3i_DS,136,0_0,Search,20120416,6901,0,8,0["]http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=eugenics+definition&ei=UTF-8&fr=w3i&type=W3i_DS,136,0_0,Search,20120416,6901,0,8,0[[/URL]

Which can be done either by environment or human intervention.
 
Yes.

eu·gen·ics/yuˈdʒɛn ɪks/ Show Spelled [yoo-jen-iks] Show IPA
noun, ( used with a singular verb )
the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, especially by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics)

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Which can be done either by environment or human intervention.

Sounds like the basis of natural selection to me. Although to be fair, Eugenics adds a component absent from evolution and that is human bias. Hence the words "natural selection". There is nothing natural about some self appointed douchetip determining what are desirable traits and what are not.

However, my larger point is correct and goes unchallenged. Without external help, evolution has determined that man and woman relations are the ideal way in which to procreate and propagate the species. By definition, then homosexuality is a genetic defect which on its own would just die out due to the lack of procreation with their so called preferred mate. If they procreate with a member of the opposite sex, then by definition they cease to be homosexual and are now heterosexual which then sends us into the realm of homosexuality being a choice.

Those advocating on behalf of deviant behavior cannot have it both ways. Logic and science dictates that it should be one way or the other.

This explains why the gays are pushing so hard to be "accepted" because they know that it is the only way to propagate their genetically mutated species
 
We are currently in negative eugenics. With out medicine and such we now allow those with defective genes to reproduce thereby negating the positive effects of natural selection (evoloution) eugenics.

I am not saying I am for this or against it. Just that it is.
 
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