Biden says Iran nuclear deal is ‘dead’

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Imagine that the Biden administration finally made a good decision. This should have happened long ago

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/biden-iran-nuclear-deal-dead


President Joe Biden acknowledged early last month that the possibility of reentering the Iranian nuclear agreement is “dead” but admitted that his administration wouldn’t announce it.

The president made the acknowledgment on the sidelines of a Nov. 4 election rally in Oceanside, California, though it wasn't reported until Tuesday, via an Axios report. Biden, in a recorded interaction with a rally attendee, acknowledged that any possibility of a deal “is dead, but we are not gonna announce it, long story,” when asked if he’d say so publicly.


National Security Council coordinator John Kirby cited Tehran's recent crackdown on protesters and its military assistance for Russia in the war in Ukraine, as reasons the deal is now off the table.

"The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is just not our focus right now. And it's not on our agenda. We simply don't see a deal coming together anytime soon while Iran continues to kill its own citizens and selling UAVs to Russia," he told reporters. "There is no progress happening with respect to the Iran deal now. We don't anticipate any progress anytime in the near future. That's just not our focus."

In October, U.S. Envoy for Iran Rob Malley said the administration wouldn’t “waste time” in negotiating with Tehran, among other U.S. officials who shared similar sentiments.
 
The truth is almost certainly that Iran decided a long time ago that they are not interested in a deal, and this is a face saving measure from the idiot Americans who go played.
 
The truth is almost certainly that Iran decided a long time ago that they are not interested in a deal, and this is a face saving measure from the idiot Americans who go played.

The truth is Iran signed a deal and Trump unilaterally walked out on it. They waited many months hoping he would come to his senses. Their error was thinking he might have them. Trump not only created that mess, but the entire concept of international deals was wrecked. Why sign a deal with the US if a new president can just end it? International deals are now meaningless. Or sign anything they want. You can just ignore it if you feel that way today.
 
Biden couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper sack. As for Trump, since he was unnecessarily brought up--his ending the catastrophically bad Obama Iran nuclear deal was a good thing. Biden couldn't resurrect it because he's far too stupid, incompetent, senile, and abrasive to work with any foreign government or leader in a productive way. They guy is truly a retard. Oh, and he's also a serial lying sack of shit.
 
Trump really fucked that up bigly.

Exactly. The deal would already be in place and we would have leverage in dealing with Iran. Now w cannot in good conscience negotiate with them. Our leverage now is to kill the deal.
 
Exactly. The deal would already be in place and we would have leverage in dealing with Iran. Now w cannot in good conscience negotiate with them. Our leverage now is to kill the deal.

The Obama deal had no leverage in it. He gave them a pile of cash from frozen US accounts--essentially a bribe-- in return for their word and nothing more that they wouldn't make nukes. That was an utterly stupid and incredibly naive deal on Obama's part. It was negotiation from weakness rather than strength.

Then Biden comes along and wants to resurrect that deal. The Iranians aren't going to agree. They got their cash and now they know they're dealing with what amounts to a stupid version of Jimmy Carter. So, they'll make nukes if they want and Biden will say awful things about them if they do, but he won't do a goddamned thing to stop them.
 
Biden couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper sack. As for Trump, since he was unnecessarily brought up--his ending the catastrophically bad Obama Iran nuclear deal was a good thing. Biden couldn't resurrect it because he's far too stupid, incompetent, senile, and abrasive to work with any foreign government or leader in a productive way. They guy is truly a retard. Oh, and he's also a serial lying sack of shit.
Obama’s deal was successful and the only reason Trump hated it was because it was Obama’s. Trump is a venal and foolishly revengeful man.
 
Obama’s deal was successful and the only reason Trump hated it was because it was Obama’s. Trump is a venal and foolishly revengeful man.

No, it wasn't. Iran got a pile of cash and simply toned down their rhetoric and the obviousness of their nuke program for one that was better concealed. You'd have to be a complete fool to believe after what they invested in trying to get nukes that they'd just throw it all away when they just recovered most of the program cost courtesy of Obama...
 
Biden couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper sack. As for Trump, since he was unnecessarily brought up--his ending the catastrophically bad Obama Iran nuclear deal was a good thing. Biden couldn't resurrect it because he's far too stupid, incompetent, senile, and abrasive to work with any foreign government or leader in a productive way. They guy is truly a retard. Oh, and he's also a serial lying sack of shit.

What was so bad about the previous nuclear agreement. Iran was upholding their end of the bargain, and now they are free to build any nuclear device they choose, thanks to DJT.
 
No, it wasn't. Iran got a pile of cash and simply toned down their rhetoric and the obviousness of their nuke program for one that was better concealed. You'd have to be a complete fool to believe after what they invested in trying to get nukes that they'd just throw it all away when they just recovered most of the program cost courtesy of Obama...
It curtailed their nuclear program, now it’s full speed ahead. The deal was preferable to what is happening now.
 
Not surprising, with Trump abandoning the deal, and consequently Russia and China seeing no need to continue, Iran had no reason not to escalate their nuclear capability
 
What was so bad about the previous nuclear agreement. Iran was upholding their end of the bargain, and now they are free to build any nuclear device they choose, thanks to DJT.

There was no way of knowing if Iran was holding up their end of the bargain. All inspections had to be scheduled and announced in advance, the Iranians could say no and force a reschedule anytime they wanted. They were free to pursue a nuclear device, only they had to do it on the sly.
 
There was no way of knowing if Iran was holding up their end of the bargain. All inspections had to be scheduled and announced in advance, the Iranians could say no and force a reschedule anytime they wanted. They were free to pursue a nuclear device, only they had to do it on the sly.

There was never a single indication that Iran was not living up to the terms of the agreement, but of course you are happier now that they are free to develope any device that they want.
 
There was never a single indication that Iran was not living up to the terms of the agreement, but of course you are happier now that they are free to develope any device that they want.

This is just a logical fallacy, eg., Lack of evidence. There is every indication that Iran continued moving towards a nuclear device.

How Close Is Iran to Getting a Nuclear Weapon?
Why Tehran’s breakout time has shrunk—and the technological hurdles that remain.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/10/iran-nuclear-weapon-breakout/

Iran is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon as Biden runs out of options
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/12/middleeast/iran-nuclear-weapon-analysis-intl-cmd/index.html

The bottom line is the Joke administration has screwed the pooch on this issue as they have on so many others because they are a bunch of radical Leftists who can't tell their asshole from their elbow. This is what happens when you elect a failed high school jock who isn't a nerd, and is just a dork to be the president.
 
This is just a logical fallacy, eg., Lack of evidence. There is every indication that Iran continued moving towards a nuclear device.

How Close Is Iran to Getting a Nuclear Weapon?
Why Tehran’s breakout time has shrunk—and the technological hurdles that remain.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/10/iran-nuclear-weapon-breakout/

Iran is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon as Biden runs out of options
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/12/middleeast/iran-nuclear-weapon-analysis-intl-cmd/index.html

The bottom line is the Joke administration has screwed the pooch on this issue as they have on so many others because they are a bunch of radical Leftists who can't tell their asshole from their elbow. This is what happens when you elect a failed high school jock who isn't a nerd, and is just a dork to be the president.

Another example of your complete bullshit.
 
Biden couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper sack. As for Trump, since he was unnecessarily brought up--his ending the catastrophically bad Obama Iran nuclear deal was a good thing. Biden couldn't resurrect it because he's far too stupid, incompetent, senile, and abrasive to work with any foreign government or leader in a productive way. They guy is truly a retard. Oh, and he's also a serial lying sack of shit.

You are totally full of right wing shit.
 
Prove it, because your delusions don't hold water.

Prove it? How, you're a righty who derives his acts from Infowars, Fox and Qanon. If you had a larger base of info, you would actually see Biden speaking in full sentences and explaining things in a way that even you cannot misunderstand. The crap you say is proof you know nothing of the truth.
 
Prove it? How, you're a righty who derives his acts from Infowars, Fox and Qanon. If you had a larger base of info, you would actually see Biden speaking in full sentences and explaining things in a way that even you cannot misunderstand. The crap you say is proof you know nothing of the truth.

I can prove Biden is a foreign policy disaster...

Biden’s foreign policy failures
https://jordantimes.com/opinion/michael-jansen/bidens-foreign-policy-failures

Six Examples of Biden Being Nearly Always Wrong on Foreign Policy
https://www.independentsentinel.com...-being-nearly-always-wrong-on-foreign-policy/

Been wrong on EVERY foreign policy issue over 40 years!' Biden blasted for Afghan failure
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1480154/joe-biden-global-stage-failure-foreign-policy-issue

Even the radical Left admits it...
Joe Biden’s Foreign Policy Has Been Horrendous
https://jacobin.com/2021/04/joe-biden-foreign-policy-vaccines-trump

10 big problems with Joe Biden's foreign policy
https://www.salon.com/2021/03/15/10-big-problems-with-joe-bidens-foreign-policy--and-one-solution/

A year of Biden's foreign policy failures
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/a-year-of-bidens-foreign-policy-failures

Death Of Nuclear Deal With Iran Adds To Biden's Failures In U.S. Foreign Policy
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archive...adds-to-bidens-failures-in-us-foreign-policy/

And finally, one tossed in that you can try the canard of attacking the source on...

7 Major Failures of the Biden Presidency
https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/02/28/7-major-failures-of-the-biden-presidency/
 
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