Brain Drain

Phantasmal

Phantasmal

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It’s happening now and predicted to get worse.

Here are several articles related to the issue.

newrepublic.com

The Red State Brain Drain Isn’t Coming. It’s Happening Right Now.

As conservative states wage total culture war, college-educated workers—physicians, teachers, professors, and more—are packing their bags.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

According to research collected by hireahelper.com, in 2023 South Dakota, "...saw 72% more people with a college degree leave the state versus move in." It's known as a 'Brain Drain' and South Dakota leads the way. More college-educated people are leaving the state than in Mississippi, Alabama, or New York.Oct 30, 2024
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Sioux Falls Sees Population Growth, But South Dakota Faces Brain Drain​

 
Phantasmal said:
It’s happening now and predicted to get worse.

Here are several articles related to the issue.

newrepublic.com

The Red State Brain Drain Isn’t Coming. It’s Happening Right Now.

As conservative states wage total culture war, college-educated workers—physicians, teachers, professors, and more—are packing their bags.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

According to research collected by hireahelper.com, in 2023 South Dakota, "...saw 72% more people with a college degree leave the state versus move in." It's known as a 'Brain Drain' and South Dakota leads the way. More college-educated people are leaving the state than in Mississippi, Alabama, or New York.Oct 30, 2024
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MAGA morons frequently vent their hostility to higher education
 
Phantasmal said:
It’s happening now and predicted to get worse.

Here are several articles related to the issue.

newrepublic.com

The Red State Brain Drain Isn’t Coming. It’s Happening Right Now.

As conservative states wage total culture war, college-educated workers—physicians, teachers, professors, and more—are packing their bags.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

According to research collected by hireahelper.com, in 2023 South Dakota, "...saw 72% more people with a college degree leave the state versus move in." It's known as a 'Brain Drain' and South Dakota leads the way. More college-educated people are leaving the state than in Mississippi, Alabama, or New York.Oct 30, 2024
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Another made up set of numbers. Argument from randU fallacy.
 
Demographics have always intrigued me (who lives where, who is moving to where etc.) and my firm looks at investments across the country and demographics are always one of the big factors that go into our underwriting.

Can't say we ever looked at a deal in South Dakota so don't know much about the state. According to the article:

Why Does South Dakota Have a Brain Drain?

It's easy to write off the idea of people leaving SD as kids wanting to live someplace 'cool.' But, in reality, people go where the work is.

The leading reason people are leaving seems to be connected to their jobs. Data suggests that over 70 percent of people leaving are doing so for work, or their spouse's job. Behind that is the desire to find someplace where home ownership is more of a possibility.

People are following the better standard of living.

I don't know what drives the state economically but if this is a political argument I'm not quite sure what it is. Build more housing so more people can afford to stay?


The year old New Republic article was a really long read to tell us two couples who have issues with abortion are leaving red states. Ok? And the author ends with some young (educated) people move to blue states. It's true young people do move to NYC, SF and even Chicago. But it doesn't mean they stay there. Large numbers of people move in their early 20's then return to where they grew up to raise families. I've seen it for a couple of decades now in SF.
 
Inside Higher Ed is a liberal leaning publication. So when they are calling this out...

Are Professors Really Fleeing Universities in Red States?​

Some academics have publicly announced resignations, but evidence of a mass faculty exodus from states like Florida is thin, at least so far. Media hyped a brain drain regardless.


www.insidehighered.com

Are professors really fleeing universities in red states?

Some academics have publicly announced resignations, but evidence of a mass faculty exodus from states like Florida is thin, at least so far. Media hyped a brain drain regardless.
www.insidehighered.com www.insidehighered.com
 
Phantasmal said:
It’s happening now and predicted to get worse.

Here are several articles related to the issue.

newrepublic.com

The Red State Brain Drain Isn’t Coming. It’s Happening Right Now.

As conservative states wage total culture war, college-educated workers—physicians, teachers, professors, and more—are packing their bags.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

According to research collected by hireahelper.com, in 2023 South Dakota, "...saw 72% more people with a college degree leave the state versus move in." It's known as a 'Brain Drain' and South Dakota leads the way. More college-educated people are leaving the state than in Mississippi, Alabama, or New York.Oct 30, 2024
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It clearly has far more to do with historical locations of major universities and institutions than with politics.

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Those universities didn't locate themselves there yesterday. If that were indeed the case the map would likely be inverted.
 
I noticed the article touched on Sioux Falls with the attention grabber saying that Sioux Falls sees population growth while a lot of the state’s “educated” are leaving. Let me interject a link to an article that goes into more depth in explaining “why” rural areas, by and large, are losing college educated populace to other areas.

Here is the link: https://www.choicesmagazine.org/2003-4/2003-4-03.htm

It’s a pretty good article that doesn’t deny a college educated exodus from some areas, especially rural areas while providing some explanation besides “smart people are leaving stupid red states.” While there might be a dab of truth to that sentiment, it is not the whole truth.

Take my son, for instance. He will graduate from OU in May and has been applying for jobs. Jobs that require degrees and certificates like he will have do not exist in rural areas. He will have to work in an urban setting and he knows it. He has interviewed in 12 different states, most of them red or purple politically. I have always assumed that he would prefer to live in an urban area because he is “citified.” But to my pleasant surprise he said while we were vacationing a couple of weeks ago that if he could find a job and be able to stay [near where we live] he’d love it. Made me a happy dad, but sad at the same time.

That reminds me of the reality of people who grow up here and those who go to college. Several can’t wait to “get outta here” when they graduate high school and then so many of them spend the rest of their lives trying to get back. In our community we have so many people who have degrees. In our congregation at church, a microcosm of our community, 40% of the people have at least a bachelor’s degree, not to count the associate degrees in attendance. BUT, most of them are retired.

Our population here is increasing every month. People coming from Colorado, California, Texas mostly. I really wish they’d stay home. The reason I live here isn’t having so many people around me. But I digress… I don’t know how many have a college education but probably not that many. Population is shifting. I just think there’s more to the shift than moving to a state of a different color.
 
Phantasmal said:
It’s happening now and predicted to get worse.

Here are several articles related to the issue.

newrepublic.com

The Red State Brain Drain Isn’t Coming. It’s Happening Right Now.

As conservative states wage total culture war, college-educated workers—physicians, teachers, professors, and more—are packing their bags.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

According to research collected by hireahelper.com, in 2023 South Dakota, "...saw 72% more people with a college degree leave the state versus move in." It's known as a 'Brain Drain' and South Dakota leads the way. More college-educated people are leaving the state than in Mississippi, Alabama, or New York.Oct 30, 2024
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What a load of crap.
 
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