Bye bye amnesty. We hardly knew ya

ITs going to make it very difficult for Republicans to get anykinda elected.
 
cawacko said:
How would passing immigration reform which included amnesty get them elected?
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I think the polling data shows that a large majority of Americans are for it. The Hispanic vote is increasingly important and they are overwhelmingly for it.
 
cawacko said:
How would passing immigration reform which included amnesty get them elected?
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It MIGHT get them a tiny percentage of the Hispanic vote.

Given that this is nothing but bullshit on the part of Republicans, it will further alienate everyone but the extreme Right Wing base this year.


From the bullshit article:

Mr. Boehner and fellow Republicans said Mr. Obama’s credibility on the immigration issue has suffered both because of his previous moves to change policy and stop many deportations under existing laws, and because of the tone of his State of the Union address last month, when the president said he would take even more unilateral actions.
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And yet:

As of July, Obama deported 1.4 million illegal immigrants since the beginning of his administration — that's 1.5 timesmore immigrants on average than Bushdeported every month, according to official numbers from the Department of Homeland Security*. But that's only part of Obama's deportation strategy: The administration's stated goal is to prioritize the deportation of criminal, dangerous illegal immigrants. And it's promised to make a new program called Secure Communities mandatory by 2013, which would force local law enforcement to share fingerprints of those arrested with the Department of Homeland Security, which has immigration records, through the FBI.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...han-bush-republicans-dont-think-thats-enough/
 
Jarod said:
I think the polling data shows that a large majority of Americans are for it. The Hispanic vote is increasingly important and they are overwhelmingly for it.
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So you believe Republicans would have won a good number of Hispanic voters over if they supported amnesty is essentially what you are saying.
 
Jarod said:
I think the polling data shows that a large majority of Americans are for it. The Hispanic vote is increasingly important and they are overwhelmingly for it.
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Maybe the "vocal" ones are for it; but as in all things, the silent majority continues to be overlooked by the liberals.

I have a large number of Hispanics, that are part of my family, and they see no need to just hand out amnesty to those who are here illegally.
They're the ones who have jobs and aren't available to march, in the middle of the week, to voice their opinions.
 
cawacko said:
So you believe Republicans would have won a good number of Hispanic voters over if they supported amnesty is essentially what you are saying.
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I think they would alienate less, and I think this will motivate more of them to get out and vote.
 
Jarod said:
ITs going to make it very difficult for Republicans to get anykinda elected.
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Then you should be dancing in the streets.

I need to see this data that shows that the hispanics are just dying to vote for Republicans if only they would support amnesty?

BTW, why are you for bringing cheaper labor over here to drive down wages when you are always bitching about the minimum wage?

Just be honest all you democrats want are loyal left wing voters to promise more goodies to. That is it. That is why you support amnesty.

Fuck if you had any inkling that hispanics would vote for republicans your ass would be down in texas building a wall yourself
 
Jarod said:
I think they would alienate less, and I think this will motivate more of them to get out and vote.
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Motivate more illegals to get out and vote? They shouldn't be allowed to vote should they?

So you don't even believe your own bullshit. That is funny
 
Teflon Don said:
Motivate more illegals to get out and vote? They shouldn't be allowed to vote should they?

So you don't even believe your own bullshit. That is funny
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You might be very surprised to know that many Hispanics are citizens and as such have a right to vote.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
illegally in the country is actually against a law, right? so why is there outrage about states arresting these illegals?
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I think the outrage is mostly about how the states are going about determining if they are here legally or not. Just because you are doing something that is not "legal" does not necessarily mean you are committing a crime.
 
Taft2016 said:
To date, Elian Gonzalez remains the only hispanic liberals endorse deporting.

What's that tell you?
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Oh, Really?



"As of July, Obama deported 1.4 million illegal immigrants since the beginning of his administration — that's 1.5 timesmore immigrants on average than Bushdeported every month, according to official numbers from the Department of Homeland Security."
 
Jarod said:
I think the outrage is mostly about how the states are going about determining if they are here legally or not. Just because you are doing something that is not "legal" does not necessarily mean you are committing a crime.
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Being in the US, without legal permission, is still illegal and there's no way you can sugar coat it.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Being in the US, without legal permission, is still illegal and there's no way you can sugar coat it.
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ITs semantics, being here without legal permission is illegal in the same way my new kitchen is illegal if I built it without permits.
 
Jarod said:
I think the outrage is mostly about how the states are going about determining if they are here legally or not. Just because you are doing something that is not "legal" does not necessarily mean you are committing a crime.
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What?

Only a fucking lawyer could come up with some bullshit like this. This is how Clinton convinced you folks that he wasn't really having sex.
 
Jarod said:
I think the outrage is mostly about how the states are going about determining if they are here legally or not. Just because you are doing something that is not "legal" does not necessarily mean you are committing a crime.
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BTW, how do you think they should determine if someone is here illegally or not?

Now here is how I would handle illegal immigration

1) If you can't prove legal status you can't enter our educational system
2) If you can't prove legal status you can't apply for ANY welfare benefits, food stamps, housing etc.
3) If you can't prove your legal status you can't be hired by an employer. Any employer and I mean ANY employer found to hire an illegal alien will be fined $100,000 per illegal alien per instance.

That will fix the problem tomorrow. There will be a mass migration out of this country and they will self deport.

Just remove the magnet and they will leave. No need to stop anyone, no need to hunt anyone down. Problem solved.
 
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