Can America Restore the Rule of Law Without Prosecuting Trump?

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But how does the country move on from a president whose disregard for the law has been so constant and pervasive? Every president seeks to exploit the immense power of the office, but Trump’s exploitation of this power represented a difference in both degree and kind. Never before had a president leveraged so much of the “energy” of the executive branch — Alexander Hamilton’s word — to advance his personal interests.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage


Answer: No. Our nation cannot pretend Trump was not a criminal. We need to restore justice.
 
When Ford let Nixon go he set a precedence that presidents are above the law. Some have acted like that is true. The nation needs a president to be held up to the same laws we are.
 
BidenPresident said:
But how does the country move on from a president whose disregard for the law has been so constant and pervasive? Every president seeks to exploit the immense power of the office, but Trump’s exploitation of this power represented a difference in both degree and kind. Never before had a president leveraged so much of the “energy” of the executive branch — Alexander Hamilton’s word — to advance his personal interests.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage


Answer: No. Our nation cannot pretend Trump was not a criminal. We need to restore justice.
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Yeah, I have changed my mind on this. Earlier I suggest it would be bad for the Republic to prosecute a president after he leaves office. That is the kind of thing that happens in Banana Republics.

BUT...Trump's conduct during the last year...and especially his conduct during the last month and continuing has caused me to change that position.

Now I say...

...LOCK HIM UP.

Trial first, of course.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Yeah, I have changed my mind on this. Earlier I suggest it would be bad for the Republic to prosecute a president after he leaves office. That is the kind of thing that happens in Banana Republics.

BUT...Trump's conduct during the last year...and especially his conduct during the last month and continuing has caused me to change that position.

Now I say...

...LOCK HIM UP.

Trial first, of course.
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Trump's presidency was a period of contempt for law and justice.
 
Can America Restore the Rule of Law Without Prosecuting Trump?
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One route would be to allow the International Court to prosecute him. The assassination of the Iranian general, Soleimani , for just one example, was murder- and he's already confessed to it.
 
moon said:
One route would be to allow the International Court to prosecute him. The assassination of the Iranian general, Soleimani , for just one example, was murder- and he's already confessed to it.
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Good point. Time for the US to enter back into international agreements.
 
Trump is not going to be prosecuted, least on a Federal level, first off it is not in Biden, and secondly, it would be exactly what Trump would want, continuous attention to keep him relevant. Trump’s army of accountants and attorneys would stall and delay anything forever, meaning no closure and Trump a martyr

On the State level, lesser offenses, but nothing approaching jail time, the thing to do is just reveal Trump’s transgressions to the American public, initiate emoluments laws, label them the Trump codes, add to his legacy
 
Frank Apisa said:
Yeah, I have changed my mind on this. Earlier I suggest it would be bad for the Republic to prosecute a president after he leaves office. That is the kind of thing that happens in Banana Republics.

BUT...Trump's conduct during the last year...and especially his conduct during the last month and continuing has caused me to change that position.

Now I say...

...LOCK HIM UP.

Trial first, of course.
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My thoughts are along the same line.
 
domer76 said:
We can start with any of the 10 counts of obstruction of justice identified by Mueller. After that, the State of NY is no doubt investigating everything from taxes to fraud.
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As before there will be no recourse on those, only the Congress could do something and they already failed at it. He clearly indicated so in his report. The reality is, that his Executive authority will have the same affect for charges during that same period.

So, I'll ask again, what would you supposedly prosecute him for? It can't be what you said here. Now the State of NY can prosecute him for State stuff if they have any evidence, but it won't be anything Federal. At this time all we have is one partially leaked year of his taxes where his quarterly payments covered everything but some $750 or so. Nothing illegal there.
 
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