Can the 2016 election be rigged? You bet

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Can the 2016 election be rigged? You bet
By Roger Stone, contributor

Donald Trump has said publicly that he fears the next election will be rigged. Based both on technical capability and recent history, Trump’s concerns are not unfounded.

A recent study by Stanford University proved that Hillary Clinton’s campaign rigged the system to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders.


What was done to Bernie Sanders in Wisconsin is stunning.
Why would the Clintons not cheat again?

The issue here is both voter fraud, which is limited but does happen, and election theft through the manipulation of the computerized voting machines, particularly the DIEBOLD/PES voting machines in wide usage in most states.

POLITICO profiled a Princeton professor — who has demonstrated how the electronic voting machines that are most widely used can be hacked in five minutes or less! Robert Fitrakis Professor of Political Science in the Social and Behavioral Sciences Department at Columbus State Community College has written a must-read book on the strip and flip technique used to rig these machines. Professor Fitrakis is a Green Party activist.

A computer hacker showed CBS how to vote multiple times using a simple $15.00 electronic device.

To be very clear both parties have engaged in this skullduggery and it is the party in power in each state that has custody of the machines and control of their programing. This year, the results of machines in Pennsylvania, Virginia and Ohio, where Governor John Kasich controls the machines, must be matched with exit polls, for example.

Illinois is another obvious state where Trump has been running surprisingly strong, in what has become a Blue state. Does anyone trust Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a longtime Clinton hatchet man. not to monkey with the machines? I don’t. He was using City funded Community groups to recruit anti-Trump “protestors” who posed such a threat to public safety the Trump Chicago event was canceled when the Secret Service couldn’t guarantee his safety.

How do the pols of both parties do it? As easy as determining, on the basis of honest polling, who is going to win. Then, if it isn’t your candidate, simply have the votes for the other guy be given to your guy and vice versa. You keep the total vote the same. This is where the “strip and flip” technique described by Professor Fitrakis comes in.

Maybe you don’t need all the votes the other guy was going to get. If you have a plan in mind involving votes and their redistribution, you can find a programmer who can design the machine instructions to produce that outcome. Or you can hack the machine you are voting in with that $15 device that you can get at BEST BUY.

Europe has rejected electronic voting machines because they are untrustworthy. This is not a secret. The media continues a drum beat insisting voter fraud is non existent without ever addressing the more ominous question of manipulation of the voting machines. It keeps those in control in control.

Additionally some states still use machines that include no paper trail. The "evidence” is destroyed. Florida’s machines have no paper trail in Bush v. Gore.

In Europe, they use exit polling to determine who won and lost. The tabulated vote only serves as a formal verification. But that is done with paper ballots and hand counts under supervision, the way we used to do it.

Here’s the recipe now:

(1) Publish a poll contrived to suggest the result you are going to bring about.

(2) Manipulate the machines to bring about precisely your desired outcome.

As someone with great sentimental attachment to the Republican Party, as I joined as the party of Goldwater, both parties have engaged in voting machine manipulation. Nowhere in the country has this been more true than Wisconsin, where there are strong indications that Scott Walker and the Reince Priebus machine rigged as many as five elections including the defeat of a Walker recall election.

Mathematician and voting statistic expert Richard Charnin has produced a compelling study by comparing polling to actual results and exit polls to make a compelling case for voting machine manipulation in the Badger state.

When the Trump vs. Cruz primary took place, the same pattern emerged again of a Marquette University poll showing a 20 point shift from Trump ahead by 10% to Trump behind by 10%, which was simply absurd. Shifts like that don’t happen over brief intervals of time, absent a nuclear explosion. It didn’t make any sense — unless you knew what was going on was an “instant replay” of Walker’s victories. The machine Priebus built was delivering for Cruz big time.

Today, the polling industry has been reported to be “in a state of crisis” because they are altering their samples to favor Hillary. The Reuters poll actually got busted for oversampling Democrats in order to inflate Hillary’s lead. We even had the absurdity of a Gallup poll proclaiming that 51% of those who had heard Trump’s speech were less likely to vote for him, which was endlessly repeated by the shills at MSNBC.

I predicted that Trump would lead in the polls after his highly successful convention (despite the media frenzy over the non-issue of a Melania Trump staffer plagiarizing a handful of words). In fact, post convention polling for the Trump effort by pollster Tony Fabrizio in key swing states was encouraging. Perhaps this is why the establishment elites have gone into over-drive to attack Trump.

Hillary hasn’t exactly had smooth sailing. Julian Assange of Wikileaks said he had inconvertible proof that as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton armed Isis LINK. The IRS has opened an investigation to the Clinton Foundation and it’s many offshoots, and Hillary got caught lying about what FBI Director Comey did say about her.

But you will see less of Hillary’s problems in the mainstream media, which has gone completely overboard in its relentless, even hysterical, efforts to lambaste Trump and promote her. Every remotely objective commentator has been stunned. Trump will, however, have an opportunity to drive these points home in the debates.

We are now living in a fake reality of constructed data and phony polls. The computerized voting machines can be hacked and rigged and after the experience of Bernie Sanders there is no reason to believe they won’t be. Don’t be taken in.

Stone is a former consultant to Donald Trump's Presidential campaign, a New York Times Bestselling Author and a veteran of nine Republican presidential campaigns from Nixon to Trump. Can the 2016 election be rigged? You bet
By Roger Stone, contributor

Donald Trump has said publicly that he fears the next election will be rigged. Based both on technical capability and recent history, Trump’s concerns are not unfounded.

A recent study by Stanford University proved that Hillary Clinton’s campaign rigged the system to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders.


What was done to Bernie Sanders in Wisconsin is stunning.
Why would the Clintons not cheat again?

The issue here is both voter fraud, which is limited but does happen, and election theft through the manipulation of the computerized voting machines, particularly the DIEBOLD/PES voting machines in wide usage in most states.

POLITICO profiled a Princeton professor — who has demonstrated how the electronic voting machines that are most widely used can be hacked in five minutes or less! Robert Fitrakis Professor of Political Science in the Social and Behavioral Sciences Department at Columbus State Community College has written a must-read book on the strip and flip technique used to rig these machines. Professor Fitrakis is a Green Party activist.

A computer hacker showed CBS how to vote multiple times using a simple $15.00 electronic device.

To be very clear both parties have engaged in this skullduggery and it is the party in power in each state that has custody of the machines and control of their programing. This year, the results of machines in Pennsylvania, Virginia and Ohio, where Governor John Kasich controls the machines, must be matched with exit polls, for example.

Illinois is another obvious state where Trump has been running surprisingly strong, in what has become a Blue state. Does anyone trust Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a longtime Clinton hatchet man. not to monkey with the machines? I don’t. He was using City funded Community groups to recruit anti-Trump “protestors” who posed such a threat to public safety the Trump Chicago event was canceled when the Secret Service couldn’t guarantee his safety.

How do the pols of both parties do it? As easy as determining, on the basis of honest polling, who is going to win. Then, if it isn’t your candidate, simply have the votes for the other guy be given to your guy and vice versa. You keep the total vote the same. This is where the “strip and flip” technique described by Professor Fitrakis comes in.

Maybe you don’t need all the votes the other guy was going to get. If you have a plan in mind involving votes and their redistribution, you can find a programmer who can design the machine instructions to produce that outcome. Or you can hack the machine you are voting in with that $15 device that you can get at BEST BUY.

Europe has rejected electronic voting machines because they are untrustworthy. This is not a secret. The media continues a drum beat insisting voter fraud is non existent without ever addressing the more ominous question of manipulation of the voting machines. It keeps those in control in control.

Additionally some states still use machines that include no paper trail. The "evidence” is destroyed. Florida’s machines have no paper trail in Bush v. Gore.

In Europe, they use exit polling to determine who won and lost. The tabulated vote only serves as a formal verification. But that is done with paper ballots and hand counts under supervision, the way we used to do it.

Here’s the recipe now:

(1) Publish a poll contrived to suggest the result you are going to bring about.

(2) Manipulate the machines to bring about precisely your desired outcome.

As someone with great sentimental attachment to the Republican Party, as I joined as the party of Goldwater, both parties have engaged in voting machine manipulation. Nowhere in the country has this been more true than Wisconsin, where there are strong indications that Scott Walker and the Reince Priebus machine rigged as many as five elections including the defeat of a Walker recall election.

Mathematician and voting statistic expert Richard Charnin has produced a compelling study by comparing polling to actual results and exit polls to make a compelling case for voting machine manipulation in the Badger state.

When the Trump vs. Cruz primary took place, the same pattern emerged again of a Marquette University poll showing a 20 point shift from Trump ahead by 10% to Trump behind by 10%, which was simply absurd. Shifts like that don’t happen over brief intervals of time, absent a nuclear explosion. It didn’t make any sense — unless you knew what was going on was an “instant replay” of Walker’s victories. The machine Priebus built was delivering for Cruz big time.

Today, the polling industry has been reported to be “in a state of crisis” because they are altering their samples to favor Hillary. The Reuters poll actually got busted for oversampling Democrats in order to inflate Hillary’s lead. We even had the absurdity of a Gallup poll proclaiming that 51% of those who had heard Trump’s speech were less likely to vote for him, which was endlessly repeated by the shills at MSNBC.

I predicted that Trump would lead in the polls after his highly successful convention (despite the media frenzy over the non-issue of a Melania Trump staffer plagiarizing a handful of words). In fact, post convention polling for the Trump effort by pollster Tony Fabrizio in key swing states was encouraging. Perhaps this is why the establishment elites have gone into over-drive to attack Trump.

Hillary hasn’t exactly had smooth sailing. Julian Assange of Wikileaks said he had inconvertible proof that as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton armed Isis LINK. The IRS has opened an investigation to the Clinton Foundation and it’s many offshoots, and Hillary got caught lying about what FBI Director Comey did say about her.

But you will see less of Hillary’s problems in the mainstream media, which has gone completely overboard in its relentless, even hysterical, efforts to lambaste Trump and promote her. Every remotely objective commentator has been stunned. Trump will, however, have an opportunity to drive these points home in the debates.

We are now living in a fake reality of constructed data and phony polls. The computerized voting machines can be hacked and rigged and after the experience of Bernie Sanders there is no reason to believe they won’t be. Don’t be taken in.

Stone is a former consultant to Donald Trump's Presidential campaign, a New York Times Bestselling Author and a veteran of nine Republican presidential campaigns from Nixon to Trump. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...91534-can-the-2016-election-be-rigged-you-bet
 
Can the 2016 election be rigged? You bet
By Roger Stone, contributor

You're purposely making this easy, for me, aren't you??

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You lie, robo. The vast 'voter fraud' that you talk about is simply fraudulent voter 'registration'. A world of difference. Fraudulent registration is when a guy is hired for a registration drive, gets lazy, and then he registers dead people, famous people, and cartoon characters, to enhance his performance, or increase his ability to earn money. His supervisors almost always spot these fraudulent entries, and by law, they must report them to election officials, noting that they don't believe that the registrations are valid. At that point, all the Repukes jump on it as proof of a 'rigged election'. They fantasize that the Dems will dress up people in Mickey Mouse costumes and actually vote fraudulently. Or find people to pretend to be the dead people. What a joke. Actual voter fraud is so infrequent that it is almost insignificant. Most of the actual voter fraud is performed by rich people who own two properties, and think that they can get away with voting in two different districts, states, or whatever. Ending voter fraud would swing Democratic.

Your other paranoia, about computer manipulation, also swings Democratic. Most of the companies that install and maintain electronic voting equipment are staunchly Republican. If there is any electronic fraud, it would not benefit Hillary. So put your semi-automatic blunderbuss back in your pants.
 
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You lie, robo. The vast 'voter fraud' that you talk about is simply fraudulent voter 'registration'. A world of difference. Fraudulent registration is when a guy is hired for a registration drive, gets lazy, and then he registers dead people, famous people, and cartoon characters, to enhance his performance, or increase his ability to earn money. His supervisors almost always spot these fraudulent entries, and by law, they must report them to election officials, noting that they don't believe that the registrations are valid. At that point, all the Repukes jump on it as proof of a 'rigged election'. They fantasize that the Dems will dress up people in Mickey Mouse costumes and actually vote fraudulently. Or find people to pretend to be the dead people. What a joke. Actual voter fraud is so infrequent that it is almost insignificant. Most of the actual voter fraud is performed by rich people who own two properties, and think that they can get away with voting in two different districts, states, or whatever. Ending voter fraud would swing Democratic.

Your other paranoia, about computer manipulation, also swings Democratic. Most of the companies that install and maintain electronic voting equipment are staunchly Republican. If there is any electronic fraud, it would not benefit Hillary. So put your semi-automatic blunderbuss back in your pants.

Poor Lil' Bobo
 
on the one hand you say that the gop messes with voter registration to disenfranchise minority voters and does gerrymandering and on the other you say it is impossible to rig the election. Then of course we have the whole bush v gore episode.

Pick a narrative and stick with it :)
 
Ending voter fraud would swing Democratic.

Sure moron! That's why the Democrats are dead set against photo voter ID's, huh?
Your post proves you're a mindless leftist.

Your other paranoia, about computer manipulation, also swings Democratic. Most of the companies that install and maintain electronic voting equipment are staunchly Republican. If there is any electronic fraud, it would not benefit Hillary. So put your semi-automatic blunderbuss back in your pants.

That paragraph makes even less sense goofball!!!!!
 
on the one hand you say that the gop messes with voter registration to disenfranchise minority voters and does gerrymandering and on the other you say it is impossible to rig the election. Then of course we have the whole bush v gore episode.

Pick a narrative and stick with it :)

You expect too much from a moron!
 
Sure moron! That's why the Democrats are dead set against photo voter ID's, huh?
Your post proves you're a mindless leftist.



That paragraph makes even less sense goofball!!!!!

This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

No one opposes voters verifying their qualifications when first registering to vote.

But once registered, and as long as a voter is active and eligible on the registration rolls, requiring voters to provide certain types of photo IDs is clearly an unwarranted burden on the right to vote.

If state elections officials suspect a particular voter of engaging in fraud, that should be dealt with on a case by case basis – not assuming all voters are ‘guilty’ of ‘fraud.’
 
This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

No one opposes voters verifying their qualifications when first registering to vote.

But once registered, and as long as a voter is active and eligible on the registration rolls, requiring voters to provide certain types of photo IDs is clearly an unwarranted burden on the right to vote.

If state elections officials suspect a particular voter of engaging in fraud, that should be dealt with on a case by case basis – not assuming all voters are ‘guilty’ of ‘fraud.’

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Why is it republicans and conservatives always need an excuse or a conspiracy? Obviously it makes up their thinking and helps explain anything in life that confuses them, but you'd think eventually they'd get a grip. It reminds me of election night 2012 and the incredulous Fox team, reality is so hard for some when you exist in a thought bubble. I turned to Fox last evening as I was curious how they'd cover Trump's adolescent machismo. As is always the case Hillary upstaged the Donald on Fox, it is as if they some programmed electric signal sends them in her direction. It reminds me of mom telling us, 'I don't care what the jackass Donnie does, you do it and you will suffer the consequences.' LOL But on Fox there is no mom to say some things aren't comparable.
 
on the one hand you say that the gop messes with voter registration to disenfranchise minority voters and does gerrymandering and on the other you say it is impossible to rig the election. Then of course we have the whole bush v gore episode.

Pick a narrative and stick with it :)


You expect too much from a moron!


Don't be so hard, on yourself. I'm sure you always try your BEST, Goober!!!


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This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

No one opposes voters verifying their qualifications when first registering to vote.

Then there’s no reason that they shouldn’t get and have a photo voter ID for every election they wish to vote in, huh? After all, it’s not like they have an expiration date on them or a explosion code in them to disintegrate trhem between elections, right?

But once registered, and as long as a voter is active and eligible on the registration rolls, requiring voters to provide certain types of photo IDs is clearly an unwarranted burden on the right to vote.

Well moron, the photo ID shows that you are who you’re saying you are before you vote. If that’s a burden for you you’re too fucking stupid to vote.

If state elections officials suspect a particular voter of engaging in fraud, that should be dealt with on a case by case basis – not assuming all voters are ‘guilty’ of ‘fraud.’

The photo voter ID is simple insurance that you’re NOT engaging in voter fraud. If illegal immigrants were voting in majority for Republicans, you’d be the BIGGEST advocate for voter photo ID.
 
Why is it republicans and conservatives always need an excuse or a conspiracy?

Average, ordinary, garden-variety LAZINESS!!!!

It's pretty-much an extension of their whole faith-based "absolutes" trip....like when they throw-around that whole "evil"-explanation, for things they'd rather-not deal-with.
 
This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

No one opposes voters verifying their qualifications when first registering to vote.


Then there’s no reason that they shouldnt get and have a photo voter ID for every election they wish to vote in, huh? After all, it’s not like they have an expiration date on them or a explosion code in them to disintegrate trhem between elections, right?


oooooooooooooooooooo.....geeeeeeeeeeeeee.....the "wheels" are (finally) turning.....and, Goober thinks he's (just) discovered a business-opportunity!!!
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GOOD LUCK, GOOBER!!!!!


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